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MDU Resources Group, Inc. (MDU)

Q3 2011 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 1, 2011

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Kristin and I will be your conference facilitator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the MDU Resources Group Third Quarter 2011 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. (Operator Instructions) This call will be available for replay beginning at 2:00 PM Eastern Time today through 11:59 PM Eastern Time on November 15. The conference ID number for the replay is 12946239. Again, the conference ID number for the replay is 12946239. The number to dial for the replay is 1-800-642-1687 or 706-645-9291. I would now like to turn the conference over to Doran Schwartz, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of MDU Resources Group. Thank you, Mr. Schwartz, you may begin your conference.

Doran Schwartz

President

Good morning and welcome to the earnings release conference call. Before I turn the presentation over to Terry Hildestad, our President and Chief Executive Officer, I would like to mention that this conference call is being broadcast live to the public over the Internet and slides will accompany our remarks. If you’d like to view the slides, go to our website at www.mdu.com and follow the link to the conference call. Our earnings release is also available on our website. During the course of this presentation, we will make certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Although the company believes that its expectations and beliefs are based on reasonable assumptions, actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of factors that may cause actual results to differ, refer to Item 1A, Risk Factors in our most recent Form 10-K, as well as our Form 10-Q and the Risk Factor section of our most recent Form 8-K. Our format today will include formal remarks by Terry followed by a Q&A session. Other members of our management team, who will be available to answer questions during the Q&A session of the conference call today are Steve Bietz, President and CEO of WBI Holdings; Dave Goodin, President and CEO of Montana-Dakota, Great Plains Natural Gas, Cascade Natural Gas and Intermountain Gas; John Harp, President and CEO of MDU Construction Services Group; Bill Schneider, President and CEO of Knife River Corporation; Kent Wells, President and CEO of Fidelity Exploration and Production; and Nicole Kivisto, Vice President, Controller and Chief Accounting Officer of MDU Resources Group. And with that, I’ll turn the presentation over to Terry for his formal remarks. Terry?

Terry Hildestad

President

Thank you, Doran, and good morning. Thank you for joining us today to discuss third quarter results. MDU Resources performed well this quarter demonstrating the value of our diversified business strategy. Business as continued to focus on operating economically and efficiently to offset the effects of the challenging economy. Our company has focused on growth. We’ve identified a number of projects we believe will generate earnings cash flow and additional value for our shareholders. We’re increasing liquids as a percentage of overall production at our natural gas and oil production business. Our utility has several investment opportunities in natural gas distribution as well as electric generation and transmission that will lead to rate based growth. Pipeline is working on a number of capacity expansion projects centered on rising levels of associated natural gas produced by development and exploration activity in the Bakken area and our construction companies are green fielding operations in areas where growth and demand exist as well as adapting their skills to the needs of the market. Over the next five years, we plan to invest approximately $3.5 billion into our company; this reflects a 27% increase over the five years prior. At MDU Resources, we are positioned to grow now and expect to be in a very competitive position as this economy strengthens. Now I’ll move on to our operating companies and their results. We’re pleased to report that our E&P group showed a nice earnings improvement this quarter. Earnings improved 20% with oil production up 13% that was driven by our South Texas and Bakken areas. Our South Texas liquids production more than doubled from a year ago and we saw a 15% increase in our Bakken liquids production. These improved results caused us to raise our forecasted liquids production increase to a range of…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Timm Schneider with Citigroup. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: Hey guys, how is it going?

Doran Schwartz

President

Good. Good morning, Timm. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: Hey, on the construction material side, I see overall volumes are up kind of 5% year-over-year but operating income is down 16%, so it seems like there was a slight uptick in relative O&M expense but is it fair to assume that pricing maybe wasn’t as robust as it had been before?

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Citigroup

Timm, good morning, Bill Schneider here, Timm that’s of a part of the story but the other two big issues really were the winter fuel cost for asphalt oil in the Midwest area was higher than we’ve seen in the past, that had a big impact. And then the other thing is Timm as our diesel costs are up about $13 million year-over-year so those two really were the major factors. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: Got it. And then how much of your backlog right now is tied to kind of the Bakken buildup?

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Citigroup

Right now is that I can’t give you the specific percentage, Terry mentioned to you is that we have 18% of the total backlog right now but I will tell you this Timm is we are lining up our work for next few year that number will continue to rise what has happened Timm is besides our traditional materials and constructions for the public arena we are doing more and more work for the oil patch and that’s of course at much greater margin so next year and the years after that really look good for us. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: All right thanks and then just switching to the E&P side real quick. With respect to Niobrara the four exploration wells are you expecting to get any of those started before Q4 here or before the end of the year I should say?

Kent Wells

Analyst · Citigroup

Actually Timm, it’s Kent. We’ve already spudded our first well. We’re actually setting casing getting ready to drill the horizontal lateral so we’ll have finished that well and started the second maybe even the third before the end of the year. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: Got it, so we should have results by Q4 or in the Q4 call I should say?

Kent Wells

Analyst · Citigroup

We’ll certainly share the results with you as soon as we have them. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: All right thank you. And then just can you remind me what your average working interest is in Stark County?

Kent Wells

Analyst · Citigroup

In Stark County it varies we have everything from 100% working interest down to gee, I don’t know what it is on the bottom end may be 25%. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: Okay got it then just real quick on the cost side. I saw D&A ticked up sequentially is that kind of a good run rate assumption given the shift towards more oil directed drilling?

Kent Wells

Analyst · Citigroup

Well that’s clearly what we are seeing today of course as it changes going forward it’s all that what rate are we adding reserves at what cost and we’re very focused on what I call our finding & development cost driving that down as we ramp up our activities. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: Okay and then the sequential decline in LOE costs anything that was driving that.

Kent Wells

Analyst · Citigroup

No I think there is clearly pressure in the system on cost but I think we’re doing a good job of controlling that and we’ll see that bounce around a little bit but I think the team does an exceptionally good job of managing our cost. Timm Schneider – Citigroup: All right thanks guys.

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Citigroup

Thank you Timm.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your next question is from the line of Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc. Paul Ridzon – KeyBanc: Good morning.

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc

Good morning Paul. Paul Ridzon – KeyBanc: The number of wells, potential wells in the Niobrara and Bakken went up pretty sharply, what drives that.

Kent Wells

Analyst · Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc

Paul this is Kent. It depends whether you’re talking about end of year or total potential where is your question? Paul Ridzon – KeyBanc: Just comparing this release to the second quarter release for instance Niobrara, I’ve said in the second quarter 100 potential future gross wells and now that’s switched to 200.

Kent Wells

Analyst · Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc

Yeah I think just as we’ve continued to work on the play and as we’ve got seismic results and seeing what other operators have done, we’ve just updated our estimate on what we see there. I think as you’re well aware we’ve got about 65,000 acres there in three different blocks. We’ve just started drilling and we’ll know more over the next six months as we appraise that acreage. Paul Ridzon – KeyBanc: Okay thank you very much.

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc

Thanks Paul.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of James Bellessa with DA Davidson.

Bill Schneider

Analyst · James Bellessa with DA Davidson

Good morning, Jim.

Operator

Operator

Hello James, your line is open. And I believe that question has been withdrawn. Your next question is from the line of Stephen Maresca with Morgan Stanley. Stephen Maresca – Morgan Stanley: Hello. Yeah, good morning guys, how are you?

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Stephen Maresca with Morgan Stanley

Good Stephen, good morning. Stephen Maresca – Morgan Stanley: I just have a question, and you talked a little bit about acquisition opportunities and I would just ask where geography wise do you think you would be focused, what size you feel comfortable with and then and sort of what line of business do you think this would be in more? Is it more on the E&P side than some others?

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Stephen Maresca with Morgan Stanley

Stephen, I will take a shot at that. We have business development teams at all of our business units exploring opportunities to grow their business. Certainly the oil and gas team is looking for new leaseholds and producing properties that we’ve evaluated a number and we continue to do that. Our construction materials company and our Construction Service Group, as I had noted in our transcript formal remarks there, they are green fielding new operations. We’ve got our asphalt terminal up running now in Wyoming and we have our expansion into North Dakota at the construction materials and at the construction services expanding into North Dakota as well and expanding our manufacturing group because that’s been so. But they continue to look at opportunities as well. They all have their own cost to capital and they are looking at growth opportunities as far as acquisitions. The utilities, got a team working and although right now primarily we are looking at organic growth with expansion of our gas plant and our environmental upgrades and some piping improvements. We continue to look for acquisition opportunities there as well. As we are in the pipeline, now on the pipeline, we have three projects going now, they are looking for acquisition opportunities as well. So opportunistic, I think the thing to remember there is we will be very financially disciplined as we go forward with all these business lines. Stephen Maresca – Morgan Stanley: Okay. Thank you very much.

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Stephen Maresca with Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This marks the last call for questions. (Operator Instructions) This call will be available for replay beginning at 2:00 PM Eastern Time today through 11:59 PM Eastern Time on November 15th. The conference ID number for the replay is 12946239. Again, the conference ID number for the replay is 12946239. Your next question is from the line of Monroe Helm with Barrow, Hanley. Monroe Helm – Barrow: Thanks. Sort of jumping here at the end of the call. I was wondering if you could give us any color on – your thoughts on CapEx for 2012 relative to 2011 in particular in the E&P space, and in that particular subsector, how they are kept spending amount related to their cash flow?

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Monroe Helm with Barrow, Hanley

Yeah. We can do that Monroe, do you want to cover it Kent or?

Kent Wells

Analyst · Monroe Helm with Barrow, Hanley

Yeah. I think Monroe as we shared at the Investor Day in August, we’re continuing ahead with that plan as we’ve laid out. We’re ramping upper activity. We expect to be at six rigs by the end of the year, and then continuously adding throughout 2012. If you remember the appraisal programs that we set out for all our major assets depending on how those go we expect to see significant liquids growth going forward and we’ll be cheering that 2012 guidance I think in February. Monroe Helm – Barrow: Okay, so at that point, tell me you’ll talk about your production goals for 2012 or related to the 2011?

Kent Wells

Analyst · Monroe Helm with Barrow, Hanley

Yes. Monroe Helm – Barrow: Okay, great.

Kent Wells

Analyst · Monroe Helm with Barrow, Hanley

Great.

Doran Schwartz

President

Monroe, Monroe excuse this is Doran. Just to provide a little bit more color commentary again on the capital, again overall I think as you’ve heard, Kent’s business is really in growth mode and that’s requiring some capital and as far as your question on cash flows at that particular business we’re probably going to spend more in capital than what we generate in cash flows in the early years as we look forward here. But I think that’s one of the benefits of being a part of a diversified group of companies where cash flows that are, are kicked off from all of our business units come together to make up that difference essentially. And as we communicated in the past, our current version of our forecast about $3.5 billion we’re not forecasting to having to issue any equity as it relates to that, we’ll again update that here at the yearend call. But it’s great to be in a position I think where you’ve got growth opportunities you’ve got a strong balance sheet, you’ve got a great credit rating, you’ve got cash on the balance sheet and you’ve got excellent liquidity off your lines of credit. So we feel like we’re really in a great position from an investment perspective. Monroe Helm – Barrow: Okay, well congratulations on making good progress and look forward to better results down the road.

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Monroe Helm with Barrow, Hanley

Thank you Monroe.

Operator

Operator

At this time there are no further questions. I would now like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

Bill Schneider

Analyst · Citigroup

Okay, well we appreciate all of your participation on the call today and we look forward to seeing you soon. Again, we will be at the EI next week, hopefully we’ll see some of you there. And as mentioned just a minute ago, our plans for providing guidance for 2012 we’ll do that with our yearend earnings report in early February. So thank you again for your interest in MDU Resources.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s MDU Resources Group conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.