I think there is a lull. There is less being shown than there was a year ago. But there is -- like I saw a great -- it was a great opportunity, probably going to be an [ acap], but it was $100 million. It was a multi-site portfolio, not anything that we're talking about, just a straight up brand-new sale leaseback. So you definitely put money to work.
I think the ones -- the logic for us when you think about industrial manufacturing sale leaseback, which is really what you're seeing. You're not seeing hardly any existing leased properties be put on the market right now. Occasionally, but not much. And they're more like HVAC guys and things like that, which I mean, it's not necessarily that strategic.
But on the strategic sale leasebacks, the genesis to decide that you want to move this off-balance sheet and take money is a lengthy one, right? If it was -- assuming that the -- we haven't had much in the way of private equity transactions that take out the small middle market companies in the last 18 months because it doesn't paper for them. They're not a catalyst because typically when a PE shop gets it, that's one of the first things they'll do.
And if you have an owner operator who decides they want to free it up, it's a lengthy process to say, "Hey, wait a minute, this is my goose that lays a golden egg, why would I sell this, right?" And it's a concept, believe it or not, that's pretty foreign for some people. Even the day and age where we've had sale leasebacks for generations.
So that journey probably takes upwards of at least 12 months, probably 24 months for them to make the decision. And so when we were acquiring assets last year, those were decisions made in '21 or '22, and the environment was different. And so they had kind of -- the momentum was going, it was committed. When you have deals coming out now, I think it's suggestive of they have a real need for the capital.
In the case of the Photonics one we did, they are doing an actual -- they're doing an international merger. And so they found this as a better source of capital than trying to get bank lending so they could get scale. And so that's why it worked, right? If it's somewhere where someone's wanting to do this and they just want to cash it out and they're trying to do a dividend now or do something like that, then those are red flags because to us in this environment.
So we expect a lull in the volume. But that said, are they all 8s? No, but north of 7.5%? I think I could replicate the size of the company probably if I had the capital.