August Troendle
Management
Okay, yes. And thanks, Dave. Yes, I think my comments are really independent. We did mention that there, we'd seen some evidence of some canceled projects. Again, you're right that we're in that bucket of awarded to us. So, net of an initial award notification, but had not been recognized in the backlog, and so were not backlog cancellations. But I'm not talking about the -- when I talked about our numbers being down for the quarter, I'm not talking about the bucket, which of course would have been influenced by prior cancellations, I'm talking about the new flow into the bucket. So, I'm not talking about the level of the bucket, I'm talking about the new flows. And so, it has nothing to do with cancellations in the prior quarter. It is new activity is down in the second quarter, so the bucket, which of course is continually emptying into backlog, is getting lower. But I'm not talking about the level, I'm talking about the flows they -- there were substantially down. So, it's kind of a real-time look at how things are progressing in business development. And the kind of things you see if people were slowing down decisions and not -- or canceling things before they even award them, then that wouldn't be a cancellation for us, we never got the award. But it does represent a weakness in the pipeline. And as I said, that's something that does tend to feed through a couple quarters out. And so, it would affect bookings in the -- later in the year, but there is a delay from getting from that bucket of initial award notifications all the way into backlog, and then, of course, have revenue impact even beyond that.