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Methode Electronics, Inc. (MEI)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Methode Electronics Fiscal Year 2019 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. For this quarterly conference call, the company has prepared a power point presentation entitled Fiscal 2019 Third Quarter Earnings, which can be found at methode.com in the Investor Relations section. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. This conference call does contain forward-looking statements, which reflects management's expectations regarding future events and operating performance and speak only as of the date hereof. These forward-looking statements are subject to a safe harbor protection provided under the securities laws. Methode undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statements to conform the statements to actual results or changes in Methode's expectations on a quarterly basis or otherwise. Forward-looking statements in this conference call involve a number of risks and uncertainties. The factors that cause these actual results to differ materially from our expectations are detailed in Methode's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission such as our annual and quarterly reports. Such factors may include, without limitation, the following: dependence on a small number of large customers, including 2 large automotive customers; dependence on automotive, appliance, commercial vehicle, computer and communication industries; international trade disputes resulting in tariffs; investment in programs prior to the recognition of revenue; timing, quality and cost of new program launches; changes in U.S. trade policy; ability to withstand price pressure, including pricing reductions; ability to successfully market and sell Dabir Surfaces; currency fluctuations; customary risks related to conducting global operations; recognition of goodwill impairment charges; dependence on the availability and price of raw materials; fluctuations in our gross margins; ability to withstand business interruptions; successfully benefit from acquisitions and divestitures; dependence on our supply chain; income tax rate fluctuations; ability to keep pace with rapid technological changes; breach of our information technology systems; ability to avoid design or manufacturing defects; ability to compete effectively; ability to protect our intellectual property; success of Pacific Insight and Procoplast and our ability to implement any profit from new applications of the acquired technology; significant adjustments to expense based on the probability of meeting certain performance levels in our long-term incentive plan; and cost and expenses due to regulations regarding conflict materials. Additionally, this conference call will present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of these measures is included in today's earnings release, which you can find on our Investor Relations website. I would now like to turn the call over to Don Duda, President and CEO. Please go ahead, sir.

Donald Duda

Analyst

Thank you, Stacy, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for our fiscal 2019 third quarter financial results conference call. I'm joined today by Ron Tsoumas, our Chief Financial Officer. Both Ron and I have comments. And afterwards, we will take your questions. To start, I will ask you to turn to Slide 4. The first nine months of fiscal 2019 have been challenging due to the weak automotive market exacerbated by Europe's implementation of WLTP or the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedures. While the near-term automotive market is projected to remain soft, the long-term fundamentals of our business remain intact, due mainly to the strong cash flow generating businesses we have been building and acquiring. Our free cash flow generation allowed us to reduce debt by $55 million in the third quarter. And with a reasonable -- responsible debt to trailing 12-month EBITDA ratio of 1.7x at the end of the third quarter, our balance sheet is also fiscally conservative. Additionally, free cash flow is anticipated to be $92 million for the fiscal year. This free cash flow will allow us to continue to invest in technologies, businesses and end markets such as magnetoelastic sensing, vertical integration of onboard vehicle cameras, Dabir Surfaces and LED lighting technologies, which will provide Methode the ability to continue to grow and increase long-term value despite the significant automotive headwinds. It is also interesting to note that almost 80% of our fiscal 2018 revenues are attributable to businesses or companies we acquired. The acquisitions we have made over the past decade or so have not only facilitated our growth, but through our manufacturing prowess and vertical integration strategy have generated significant cash flows. Moreover, our industrial segment sales grew 84% year-over-year in the first nine months, due mainly to…

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst

Thank you, Don, and good morning, everyone. On a GAAP basis, third quarter net income increased $55 million to $30.7 million or $0.82 per share in fiscal '19 from a loss of $24.3 million or a loss of $0.65 per share in fiscal '18. For the 9 months, GAAP net income increased $48.6 million to $69 million or $1.83 per share in fiscal '19 from $20.4 million or $0.54 per share in fiscal 2018. In both periods, GAAP net income benefited mainly from lower income tax expense, higher sales in the industrial segment and increased international government grants. This was partially offset mainly by reduced passenger car demand and production in both Europe and Asia, higher stock award amortization expense, increased acquisition-related cost, increased intangible amortization expense related to the Grakon acquisition, higher net interest expense, initiatives taken to reduce costs and improve profitability and tariff expenses. Consolidated GAAP income from operations was $26 million in the fiscal '19 third quarter versus $35.6 million last year and $73.8 million in the 9 months of fiscal 2019 versus $90.7 million in the same period of last year. In both periods, income from operations was negatively impacted by reduced passenger car demand and production in both Europe and Asia, higher stock award amortization expense, increased acquisition-related costs, increased intangible asset amortization expense related to the Grakon acquisition, initiatives to reduce costs and improve profitability and tariff expense. Moving to margins on Slide 8. Non-GAAP adjusted gross margins improved 70 basis points year-over-year in the 9-month period and exclude initiatives to reduce costs and improve profitability and purchase accounting adjustments related to the step-up in inventory. Gross margins were negatively impacted by an unfavorable sales mix and customer pricing reductions in the Automotive segment as well as significantly reduced sales in the Interface…

Donald Duda

Analyst

Ron, thank you very much. Stacy, we are ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Chris Van Horn with B. Riley.

Christopher Van Horn

Analyst

I was hoping that you could give us a little more detail on the guidance. What you're kind of thinking about for -- maybe even on some of your end market level, using IHS as a baseline for auto and kind of adding in what you see from a program launch perspective? And then just kind of some commentary on your other markets, if you don't mind?

Donald Duda

Analyst

From an auto standpoint, we of course use our releases from the automakers and our discussions with the automakers overlaid with some IHS and LMC. And we do sometimes doublecheck with IHS. So that's -- those are the main drivers of auto. Grakon, we're still familiarising ourself with it. But there, we use ACT and also the releases that Grakon sees. So all that put together is driving the automotive and transportation. And then the smaller business, it's customer discussions and releases.

Christopher Van Horn

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then, the Grakon acquisition, I think a big part of it, from our viewpoint, was the heavy-duty trucking customer was going to be a bigger end market for you all. Could you comment on the pipeline that you're seeing with now that you have Grakon and maybe some other Methode technologies that you can add into that? What you're hearing from the customers? And any sort of commentary on the pipeline over the next couple of years?

Donald Duda

Analyst

Sure. I want to be -- I don't want to speak for our customers, but our backlog remains strong. We anticipate it will remain strong for the duration of the calendar year. I think that's in line with what ACT has said. We'll see what calendar year '20 brings. From our standpoint, we continue to take cost out of Grakon, and we're actively managing the factory. Our VP in Asia has control of the factory, and so we'll take costs out there, which will help us not this year, but it will help us next year. And then we can continue to factor the customers about whether there are areas that -- or products that we can provide. And then very important, and I said -- I think I said in the script is our global procurement. We've already seen reductions in our LED by -- for global Methode, including Grakon, by our negotiations. So there's a number of things that we're doing as we look into calendar year '20 to -- and we improve Grakon's performance and that potentially might offset any downturn we'll see in their business.

Christopher Van Horn

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then when we look at the capital deployment, I know you've made a number of successful acquisitions and I imagine there's probably not anything in the near term. But as we think further out, are there any sort of areas, regions or end markets that you've identified that might be interesting for you from that perspective? And then, as you look at the portfolio, how are you thinking about the companies that you're holding now?

Donald Duda

Analyst

Well, let me answer that first. We continue to evaluate what our portfolio is and what the -- where does that fit within Methode. And then if something does, we will take action there. But there's nothing imminent in that respect. In terms of future acquisitions, we are focusing on industrial. I won't rule out automotive, but that space we know how to operate in, we've got technology that we can bring it. We certainly know how to manufacture the product. So that's a focus for us. Medical, I think, we'll focus on Dabir unless there's some great acquisition that gives Dabir a very strong path to market. I think, for the most part, we'll focus on our industrial and build that up in line with, I guess, our technologies and what we're comfortable with. We wouldn't do an industrial acquisition that we didn't understand and would take us too far afield from what we know. And then the other thing I would add is we've done well in sensors. Our magnetoelastic sensors have done well. Our [indiscernible] sensors do well. So the sensor acquisition, which would actually help all of Methode, is also something we'll be looking at.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from David Leiker with Baird.

Erin Welcenbach

Analyst · Baird.

This is a Erin Welcenbach on for David. My first question is, again, a follow-up on the Grakon acquisition. So I'm wondering if you can frame for us how much of the upside in the quarter was from better fundamental business performance may be given some of the stronger commercial vehicle end markets versus synergies, either cost or kind of cross-selling synergies tracking above your expectations?

Donald Duda

Analyst · Baird.

Well, as I think both Ron and I said, tariffs came in better than we anticipated. I think the team has done a very good job of moving as quickly as they could to mitigate certain portion of them and that was really us. Grakon brought all their product into Seattle and then they would ship to Mexico or ship to Canada and, of course, in United States as well. Our team was successful in quickly changing the ship point, which reduced the tariffs. So that helped. And Grakon did -- in the quarter, the sales were higher than forecast in Q3. So they've got the advantage of Class 8. And then -- well, it's -- in our automotive, Tesla also had an impact. Ron, is there anything you...

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · Baird.

I would add that maybe we were able to very quickly gain some procurement synergies that definitely dropped to the bottom line in 3Q and going out into 4Q and then into fiscal 2020 as well.

Erin Welcenbach

Analyst · Baird.

Okay. That's helpful. And then on the cost actions you announced, I believe it was last quarter. Where do you stand in those in terms of when we'll start seeing the benefits of those flow through the P&L more substantially?

Donald Duda

Analyst · Baird.

We'll see some benefit in our Q4, but we'll see the full benefit in our fiscal 2020.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Steven Dyer with Craig-Hallum.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

A couple of questions for me. I guess, I'll start briefly on Dabir. Looks like it's at long last starting to get some traction after a lot of testing and probably a little bit slower out of the gate. But how do you think about certain deployment from here? It seems like it's checked all the boxes in terms of efficacy and safety and so on and so forth. And what sort of the ramp to this becoming sort of the product that you envisioned several years ago?

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Good question. The next step is to expand from single-point hospitals into hospital systems. And we're starting to see some of that now. Again, slower than we would like, but it is moving in that direction. And you first have to demonstrate efficacy at the operating level with the nurses to get credibility and then you can talk to the C suite in the systems. And that's where we're at now. The teams are, I think, doing a very good job now of expanding Dabir in particular hospitals we're at now and then going forward. And I judge that by, as I said, the number of surfaces that we're selling and the number of clinicals that we're going on. You have to do that first before you can talk about in these sales. We still maintain that the hospital surgical suites are the area we want to focus on, although we have, as I said, in my prepared remarks, went into other areas and that remains a very large and robust market for us. Now in terms of when we see that, we'll make progress next year. I -- we're not planning on [indiscernible] the corner next year from profitability. We think that's more of a '21 event. And I realized that we have been talking about it a long time. But I have to say, from my standpoint, I feel reinvigorated with the progress in Dabir that's been made. So I still think we have some time. That's not going to swing Q4, but I think we're in the right direction. And I agree, it's taken a long time, but I think we're getting there.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

And that's very helpful. I guess, just following up on that. At one point, I think, we all had expected that was going to be a very major product for the company in the future. And have you seen anything in the last year, 2 or 3 that has sort of changed your mind on that in terms of the TAM that it could be for you guys?

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

No. Actually, I would go the other way that the market is larger than we thought it was. That -- again, we still have to land some systems and get it to be a standard of care. But once it becomes a standard of care, that market -- the total available market is quite large. And I've said a number of times, we're focusing on the surgical suites because there's essentially no compression, but the bigger market is when you get outside of the surgical area into acute -- excuse me, not acute. We did a study on respirator patients...

Donald Duda

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Ventilator.

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Ventilator that turned out very favorably. I think we commented on last call. So no, I -- in no way, shape or form, we think the market is diminished at all. In fact, I think it's growing.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Got it. And then, I guess, just jumping over to auto. Your largest auto program is, I think, in the middle of a changeover model years, redesign [indiscernible] to the T1. Just kind of given the disruption, I guess, that you're seeing here in fiscal '20 around that changeover, would you expect that the absolute dollars from that program can kind of grow in fiscal 2020? Is that part of the assumption?

Donald Duda

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

You have to tell me what the expected [indiscernible] is going to be and where GM forecast their year obviously is going to be dependent upon that. I -- in our planning, I think we're holding our own, but we're not expecting a huge upside from that. I don't think there's anything in the marketplace that would suggest that.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

And the reason I said is that I think most of fiscal '19 or at least half of it is going to be sort of not at full production for the K2, just given that change over. So I guess, the assumption would be as most of fiscal 2020 should be back sort of full production for the T1, both trucks and SUVs?

Donald Duda

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Let me answer this way. From our -- looking at LMC, looking at IHS, that's really what we do our planning on and we're not seeing that. Now that doesn't mean that three months from now that does not change. I mean, we -- I really feel that we have a 3 to 6 month window where we can have some degree of certainty, but you get past that as it -- I think, it becomes difficult to forecast.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Okay. Fair enough. And then, I guess, can you just remind us around content on the T1 versus K2 kind of apples-to-apples per vehicle? Just directionally, if nothing else, similar or more or less, et cetera.

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

It would be less and average tool price is reduced because the screens are down. Screen is directed by. So the average tool price has dropped. And -- in general, they have a total price of center consoles have reduced from when we originally launched K2. Directionally, the content has dropped and the dollars have dropped. And we've talked in the past calls about the dramatic reduction is screen prices.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

But that's largely passthrough revenue as I recall, right? I guess, I'll just jump...

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

It is passthrough revenue, but it's in the price.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Yes. Okay. fair enough. Last question for me, and then I'll jump back in line. On the walk from EBITDA from fiscal '19 to fiscal '20, it's very helpful. It looks like you increased sort of your expectation of cost initiatives and so forth -- I'm sorry, the additional Grakon revenue and contribution there by about $7 million, but you kept sort of your overall 2020 target at 221. Should -- is that just conservatism on your part that, that can now be upside? Or have you seen something sort of compressed in other parts of your business?

Donald Duda

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Well. Yes, we've seen, European auto drop -- what do we have in the chart, $19 million, and it's because of the passenger car reduction. That's significant. And we may have more headwinds and tailwinds from that standpoint. Will Europe stabilize or will Europe drop? So are we being conservative? I guess, we're being practical. And there can always be some upside, but there can also be downside as well. And when we do these numbers, we have to certify that the auditors that were 70% confident in the -- in our forecast, and we're still -- what do we give guidance, four months from now [indiscernible] ways to go. Do you have any comments, Ron?

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Yes. I might say that -- Steve, is that the plan is in the Q and on the filings, 221 is the target, and that's where we're at and we can't really say much more about that. Otherwise, we'll really be giving fiscal '20 guidance as well. So the plan is -- [indiscernible] still the plan.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Skip Tague with RBI Capital.

Skip Tague

Analyst · RBI Capital.

I just wanted to confirm, I think I heard that acquisitions added $150 million of revenues in the nine months that ended January 2019? Is that correct?

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · RBI Capital.

Yes.

Skip Tague

Analyst · RBI Capital.

So then that implies that in the 9 months ended 2017, the organic revenues have been $584 million, which would compare to $659 million for the previous 9-month period? Is that also correct?

Ronald Tsoumas

Analyst · RBI Capital.

Just a second. $150 million of acquisitions and new launches. So $115 million for acquisitions and $35 million for program launches.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher Hillary with Roubaix Capital.

Christopher Hillary

Analyst · Roubaix Capital.

I just wanted to ask you've done an excellent job in managing your margins, both in the current period and through your planning period. What do you see in the medium term as tailwinds to your margin, whether it be cost improvements or the mix of business that you anticipate to be growing when we head beyond the 2020 period?

Donald Duda

Analyst · Roubaix Capital.

Sure. The two big drivers for us are new programs, using our technology and higher margins. And I've pointed in the past to our magnetoelastic margins, in general, our sensing business. We put a slide out, I think, in the Needham conference, where we had -- I guess, last quarter, we had -- what was about $80 million of book business through '22 and that's a very, very good margin. And actually, we anticipate probably by '22 it will be $100 million. That the product carries one of our highest margins in the company. So new business at higher margins or higher profit drive our overall margins. And also, we can generally take costs out of the product. It's harder in Auto today because we're fighting reduced volumes and reduced overhead coverage. Our North American business was down $23 million year-over-year. But from gross margin dollars, the team's kept it flat. And that's not easy to do in the auto business when there's a downturn. They have done a good job. Europe has struggled a little bit more, some of it's because their margins are higher than in the U.S. But in general, if I look at Grakon, we've got great opportunity and we've built into our plans to take costs out there. They run a good factory, but it's not -- not up to the Methode standards to our production system. We've got a good team. We will get them there and we'll see the benefit of that some in '20, but also in '21. So it's a combination of new business and higher margins and then what we do well is take costs out of the product.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I would like to turn the call over to Don for closing comments.

Donald Duda

Analyst

Stacy, thank you very much, and we thank everybody for listening and their questions. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation.