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Methode Electronics, Inc. (MEI)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 1, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Methode Electronics First Quarter Fiscal 2023 Results Call. [Operator Instructions] It is now pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Robert Cherry, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, the floor is yours.

Robert Cherry

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and welcome to Methode Electronics fiscal 2023 first quarter earnings conference call. For this call, we have prepared a presentation entitled Fiscal 2023 first quarter financial results, which can be viewed on the webcast of this call or found at methode.com on the Investors page. This conference call contains certain forward-looking statements, which reflect management's expectations regarding future events and operating performance and speak only as of the date hereof. These forward-looking statements are subject to the Safe Harbor protection provided under the securities laws. Methode undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statements to conform the statement to actual results or changes in Methode's expectations on a quarterly basis or otherwise. The forward-looking statements in this conference call involve a number of risks and uncertainties. The factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations are detailed in Methode's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, such as our 10-K and 10-Q reports. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Don Duda, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Don Duda

Analyst

Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our fiscal 2023 first quarter earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Ron Tsoumas, our Chief Financial Officer. Both Ron and I will have opening comments, and then we will take your questions. Let’s begin with the highlights on Slide 4. Our sales for the quarter were $282 million, helping our sales by a $11 million with successful spot buy in premium freight cost recovery efforts. Working the opposite was foreign currency, which had a negative $14 million impact on sales. Also working against us were market headwinds in our automotive segment in Asia and Europe. In Asia, the COVID-19 lockdowns in China impacted the end of our fourth quarter, as well as the beginning of our first quarter. In Europe, we saw continued weakness in the auto market due to macroeconomic conditions. Helping to offset the weaker auto sales was a record quarter of sales in our Industrial segment. The surge in industrial sales was driven by power distribution, both through data center and EV applications, and by commercial vehicle lighting. This is in keeping with our strategic direction to grow our Industrial segment. In the quarter, we continue to face the ongoing supply chain challenges. Our team is still working diligently to mitigate their impact, which requires remedial actions such as spot buys, and expedited shipping. We have worked relentlessly with our customers to share in the absorption of these increased costs. These costs include inflation and material, labor and freight. Our ability to obtain reimbursement to offset these costs will lag as a matter of process as long as inflation continues. On the order front, we had another very strong quarter with over $90 million in program awards. As we will see later, these…

Ron Tsoumas

Analyst

Thank you, Don and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Slide 7. First quarter net sales were $282.4 million in fiscal year '23 compared to $287.8 million in fiscal year '22, a decrease of $5.4 million or 1.9%. Fiscal year '23 sales included $11.1 million of spot buy in premium, freight cost recovery and unfavorable currency impact on sales of $14.2 million. Excluding the spot buy in premium freight cost recovery and the foreign currency impact, sales decreased by $2.3 million or 0.8%. Sales declined in the Automotive segment, but increased in the Industrial segment. The Automotive segment saw a sales increase of $19.2 million or 9.8%. Net sales were negatively impacted by foreign currency exchange of $8.9 million, but benefited from stock spot buy and freight recovery sales of $9.1 million. In North America, the $4.4 million decrease in the first quarter sales included the full impact from the roll off of a major automotive program. In Asia, Automotive segment sales decreased $9.1 million or 23.4%, primarily due to China's COVID-19, zero tolerance lockdown and the shutdown of a large customers facility in July. We anticipate recovering a portion of the lost sales in the first quarter in our second quarter. In Europe, sales declined $5.7 million or 9.9%, largely due to foreign exchange headwinds of $7.7 million, partially offset by cost recoveries of $1.2 million. In addition to foreign exchange, sales were impacted by general economic uncertainty in the region. The weakness in the Automotive segment was partially offset by record sales in our Industrial segment, which experienced a sales increase of $13.6 million or 17.3%, resulting from strength in our commercial vehicle lighting and industrial non-EV power related product offerings. EV product applications amounted to 17% of sales in the quarter. This figure was adversely impacted from…

Don Duda

Analyst

Ron, thank you very much. Ellie [ph], we are ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Luke Junk with Baird. Sir, please go ahead.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Questions. To start -- hoping we could start with the automotive business, specifically, I was hoping you could help us unpack the two factors you said behind continued to do margins in that segment. Is there a good way to think about the relative weighting between the two factors that you mentioned? In other words, the major customer roll off in terms of cost absorption and then China related impacts in the quarter that might speak to the stickiness or perhaps lack thereof of those headwinds and auto margin going forward?

Don Duda

Analyst

Sure. When I look at the roll of the program, what we've anticipated for quite some time, I don't put a whole lot of weight to that. That we -- several years ago, we booked EV programs that we saw from revenue that replace that. The impact, even though we did recover some of our costs during the quarter was from an ongoing supply chain issues both inflation -- inflation, wage inflation and logistics. So if those didn't exist in the quarter, we would, I don't think we'd be talking about the roll off of public programs. So those are, I think, mutually exclusive. Now, what impacted auto is the macroeconomic conditions in Europe, which is a high -- higher margin territory for us than in the United States, so that the combination of the logistics and inflation as well as European sales, and mix contributes to that. Ron, is there …?

Ron Tsoumas

Analyst

Yes, I think we'll recover -- we anticipate recovering what was lost "in China", we anticipate recovering that the rest of the year. And as the stickiness as of the items Don mentioned that we will continue to pursue.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Okay. Thank you for that. And then my second question just regarding the shape of the fiscal year, overall, you're clearly starting to see some improvement in earnings versus where the fourth quarter shakeout from here that of course is going to need to continue back in the envelope. If I do the math, take the midpoint of guidance and what you reported this year, then, or this quarter, I should say, that was about $0.77 per quarter and EPS to get to that midpoint. Can you just comment on how you see that progression internally, or maybe any key factors we should be considering, relative to that anticipated progression on a quarterly basis?

Don Duda

Analyst

Sure. I'll start off and I'll let Ron make a comment too. But as I mentioned in our prepared remarks, we were impacted in the first quarter by the lockdowns in China as well. So if that had not occurred, we would have had a better quarter. But as we would say, somebody's going to run a tautology, say the rest of it.

Ron Tsoumas

Analyst

Yes, look, we anticipate improvement in each of the quarters coming up. I mean, historically, our third quarter tends to be maybe a little bit weaker than some of our other quarters, but we're going to see some momentum coming out of this quarter, in terms of the China lockdowns and some of the other programs that we will have bringing to launch. You'll see, we anticipate progression throughout the year in terms of EPS growth.

Don Duda

Analyst

But will give quarterly guidance, but we didn't say math and achieving that, on average per quarter is achievable. So we're confident that going forward, being short of another lockdown in China.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for that. And then just one last question, if I can sneak in here. Don, just wondering if you could comment on the trends in medical this quarter, and maybe zooming out more importantly, just your aspirations and outlook for that business year as we look over the rest of fiscal 2023? Thank you.

Don Duda

Analyst

Sure. If I look quarter-over-quarter, very strong quarter in the fourth quarter, $1.6 million and this quarter was $0.7 million [ph]. I don't read too much into that the fourth quarter had a very large order, and it actually have large order over $0.5 million and then a kind of a mid-size order. And that's really dictated by when the evaluations are done by the hospital, they had been impacted by COVID. And the orders follow usually in the next quarter. So that's what happened in the fourth quarter, which was a great quarter. The first quarter we didn't have the completion of any major evaluation. So that's -- that was weaker again. I think what the bear is experiencing was the long-term effect of COVID on the revaluation. So it kind of makes the order flow a little lumpy, but to your question, what are we expecting in the $4 million to $5 million range, we get the evaluations done. I’ve mentioned before we almost always get business after an evaluation. So for whatever reason, they've all been successful. So I'm anticipating that the pace for the bear will pick up. And to the last part of your question. We remain confident in that business. The list of customers continues to grow. So we understand the issues that have with evaluation, but we still remain confident in the business.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Okay, thank you. I'll leave it there.

Don Duda

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from John Franzreb with Sidoti. Please go ahead.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Good morning, guys and thanks for taking the questions.

Don Duda

Analyst

Good morning.

John Franzreb

Analyst

I would like to start with the industrial business. Record revenues, was there anything unusual as far as timing in the quarter that helped achieve those revenues? Anything else coming in? And what are your expectations on the cadence in the industrial business for the balance of the year as well as relative to the first quarter?

Don Duda

Analyst

Sure, John. A couple of things. The CV, the commercial vehicle was strong and continued to grow, which was good for us. Our power -- [indiscernible] power, certainly that serves the data centers, that type of business can be lumpy. And we experienced some nice revenue recorded during the quarter. So a combination of both of those things are probably the biggest impact to the increase in sales.

Don Duda

Analyst

Hey, John, I -- with the comfort in that, the business continues to grow. And it was impacted by logistics and inflation. But not quite as much as all of the margins were down, but still our biggest segment. So as Ron said, the data center business contributed, but I was pleased to see that it's our commercial business is quite strong, and the customers continued to [indiscernible] business.

John Franzreb

Analyst

And, Don, last quarter you kind of expressed, I don’t know, concern about having to go back to customers multiple times in the quarter to get price increases, because you're behind the price cost curve of inflation. Has that abated at all in the first quarter? Or are you still finding yourself in a situation where you're going to have to go back again and again and it elongates your recovery process?

Don Duda

Analyst

That still exists. It's a delicate conversation with customers. We're careful how we do that, but it is a necessity. And as I said in my prepared remarks, as long as inflation continues, we're going to be behind the [indiscernible] in any given quarter. You're recovering from maybe the previous two quarters, but now you've got another increase, you have to go back for that. So that's a hamster wheel. And until inflation subsides, we're going to be fighting that. Customers and I understand this, do not give anticipatory price increases on inflation, we wouldn't do it either. So that continues to be direct on your question, that continues.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And I guess two parts, I guess for this question. [Indiscernible] lockdown in China at Chengdu [ph]. Can you; a, hit your 20% EV target without China coming back to some normalcy? And, b, given the additional lockdowns we heard of today, is that kind of factored into your outlook? Or are you a little bit surprised by that?

Don Duda

Analyst

I don’t know we were surprised by it, we did anticipate some in our review of the balance of the year. But that really is the unknown if next week, Shanghai gets locked down or [indiscernible] that will help us -- that will have an effect on us. To what degree we do have inventory, we have a product on the water, unfortunately, and that contributes to inventory. But that is the biggest factor even more so than maybe the macroeconomic conditions in Europe.

John Franzreb

Analyst

And regarding the easy target, do you need China to come back? Either way can hit at your [indiscernible]?

Don Duda

Analyst

I think we can. If your question is if it stays status quo, can we hit the target? And our projections are yes, again. Let me repeat myself [indiscernible] dramatic, that will have an effect.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay, great. And I guess one last question on capital allocation. Just talk a little bit about your decision to buy back shares versus further reduction of debt and M&A. Now, what are your kind of general thoughts at this point? Any kind of additional color would be helpful?

Ron Tsoumas

Analyst

Sure. Sure, John. We assertively and continue to look at inorganic growth targets, as we have in the past. So that posture has not changed at all. Yes, we did only reduce debt by $3.1 million during the quarter, but that was consciously we chose to buy back shares. The debt that we have, especially our [indiscernible] debt, if you pay that down, you can't re-borrow against that. So it was a great time for us we thought to continue our share repurchase after announcing the additional $100 million we wanted to act on that. And we thought that had a priority over the -- any further reduction in debt.

Don Duda

Analyst

And as far as acquisitions, we continue to look at them. Some of the acquisitions that we have on our list, we really want to see what happens in the world economy. That'll certainly affect the valuation of those companies. And I think in general, the M&A market is maybe taking a bit of a pause, see what happens with interest rates and their economic conditions particularly in Europe right now.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Got it. Great. Okay. Thanks, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.

Don Duda

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

As there are no more questions in queue, I will hand it back to Mr. Duda for any final comments.

Don Duda

Analyst

Ellie, thank you. Thanks everybody for listening and wish everybody a safe and enjoyable Labor Day weekend. Good bye.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.