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Mercer International Inc. (MERC)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Fri, Apr 29, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Mercer International's Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today is David Gandossi, President and Chief Executive Officer of Mercer International; and David Ure, Senior Vice President, Finance, Chief Financial Officer and Secretary. I will now hand the call over to David Ure.

David Ure

Management

Good morning, everyone. I would like to remind you that in this morning's conference call, we will make forward-looking statements. And according to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, I'd like to call your attention to the risks related to these statements which are more fully described in our press release and in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This quarter, we achieved record revenue and near-record EBITDA due to strong sales volumes and robust pricing for all of our products. Similar to Q4, we did not have any major maintenance in Q1, and our results also benefited from having the Rosenthal turbine running for most of the quarter. Overall, our mills ran well this quarter, although our Peace River mill lost some production due to limitations of rail service to certain regions. To mitigate this issue, we've had to use extra trucking, which has the effect of increasing our freight and warehousing costs. As expected, we also experienced higher costs for several of our major inputs, including wood, energy and chemicals. Our near-record EBITDA in the first quarter was almost $155 million compared to EBITDA of about $165 million in Q4 last year. As a reminder and to put our Q1 results into perspective, our record Q4 EBITDA result benefited from the recognition of almost $32 million of business interruption insurance proceeds related to the Peace River mill's recovery boiler repair. Our pulp segment contributed quarterly EBITDA of roughly $114 million, and our wood products segment contributed near-record quarterly EBITDA of $44 million. You can find additional segment disclosures in our Form 10-Q, which can be found on our website and that of the SEC. On average, softwood and hardwood pulp prices in Q1 were higher than Q4 in…

David Gandossi

Management

Thanks, Dave. Our solid Q1 operating results were essentially an extension of our Q4 results. Our mills ran well, and we have benefited from particularly strong market conditions for pulp, lumber and green energy. Although we experienced considerable cost inflation pressures, particularly in natural gas and shipping, the diversity of our products, our locations and end markets, along with solid cost control measures, allowed us to take full advantage of the strong pricing conditions for our products. Our mills' strong production this quarter, combined with overall steady demand for our products, were key factors in our Q1 results. Global pulp supply demand fundamentals remained tight through Q1. And as a result, relative to Q4, average pulp prices were up in all markets with the largest increase coming in China. Chinese demand continues to be negatively impacted by pandemic conditions. In other markets, demand has been steady, and logistics bottlenecks in certain regions have created extremely tight conditions. In addition, supply reductions due to the finished pulp and paper industry strike recently announced reductions in NBSK capacity, along with the commencement of the traditional major maintenance season, continue to support price increases that have continued into Q2. European hardwood pulp supply will also be negatively affected by the sanctions-related reduction in supply of Russian birch wood. We believe that pulp consumers have low inventory levels, forcing some producers to use additional NBSK in their furnish or slow their machines. Lumber markets also remained strong in the quarter. U.S. lumber pricing approached the near-record levels of 2021 before weakening again late in Q1. And while average lumber pricing in Europe weakened modestly during the quarter, both markets remain at historically high levels. The midterm backdrop for U.S. lumber pricing conditions remains positive with relatively low housing inventory, strong housing expectations supported by…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Kasia Kopytek from TD Securities. First question comes from the line of Hamir Patel from CIBC Capital Markets.

Hamir Patel

Analyst

David, first off, congratulations on your retirement.

David Gandossi

Management

Thanks, Hamir.

Hamir Patel

Analyst

David, I wanted to ask about lumber prices in Europe. Hoping you could comment on how they've evolved since the conflict in Ukraine began and what level of pricing improvement you might be expecting in coming months as pricing terms are reset.

David Gandossi

Management

Yes, hard one to call just at the moment, Hamir. I mean, as -- I don't think there's been anything really dramatic yet as a result of the conflict. In my, I think, maybe history, ignoring the conflict, I mean, history has shown us that the European market tends to follow the U.S. market, both up and down but maybe with less volatility. That's a bit of what we've been seeing in the recent past. There will be a shortage of lumber and certain types of products in certain sectors. But with our main customers in Europe, I don't think we're seeing direct impact just yet.

Hamir Patel

Analyst

Okay. Great. And David, I know Mercer has been pushing for the reopening of the rail line near Rosenthal and Friesau that was -- I think it was cut off almost 70 years ago. What type of cost savings could that represent if you're able to get that reestablished?

David Gandossi

Management

That's another question I don't have a specific number for you, Hamir. I mean, I think it -- we're already in a low-cost freight environment, but this will be primarily a carbon saving and a site cost reduction being able to go on rail as opposed to by truck.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Andrew Kuske from Credit Suisse.

Andrew Kuske

Analyst

David, I guess your Monday morning is going to be a bit different than Monday mornings in the past. But maybe just on the business positioning that you're leaving and you think about the CLT business and just the broader positioning within a decarbonization theme. As you get greater build and scoring towards lead status focused on the carbon cycle and mass timber, how do you think about Mercer's positioning with the CLT business? And just sort of more broadly, how big could it become for Mercer itself? And then how big do you think the market opportunity is to sort of overall?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes. Well, I'll start by saying I'm really excited for Mercer with mass timber. That plant in Spokane is a very large plant. It's really well invested. It's got more than $150 million worth of brand-new equipment in it, all kinds of grading and sorting and planing capacity similar to what we're familiar with. It was designed to be just a CLT production facility initially, and we're going to change that. We're going to be making glulam and other engineered wood products there because we've got the whole machine around the requirements to make additional engineered wood products. So CLT will continue to be a significant component of that, but we'll be producing what we call catalog products of engineered wood that will keep the plant busy and profitable. And we'll be using the CLT to upside the margin as and when those projects come in. We're building the team out now. We've been very successful. We're very, very pleased with both our marketing project execution, our engineering service individuals that have joined -- are joining Mercer. We're going to have some high-return capital we're going to spend in the facility over the coming couple of years, but I think it's going to be just a steady ramp-up and improvement in profitability. And I believe it will be very noticeable within a couple of years. That will be a significant platform for us. And with the team that we're building, we'll -- we intend to continue to grow it opportunistically.

Andrew Kuske

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then, I guess, philosophically, do you see that CLT businesses having maybe a lower volatility than we see in pulp markets, and then you get a higher baseline steady amount of predictable cash flows or more predictable cash flows over a period of time to draw higher multiple?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes. I don't know about the volatility piece. I mean, it's going to be a bit like the lumber business. Like the plant will be busy making catalog engineered wood products, and it will be making big CLT panels, either catalog channels or custom design panels, all depending on where the margins are. But the vision we have for it is by having this whole range of products -- like a good example is long-length timber 2x4s today is an engineered wood product. You have railcars of lumber coming into the plant. They go through sorting and planing. They get finger-jointed, and we're selling, on average, 28-foot long-length finger joints as a product going out in railcars. And we'll have a whole -- like a number of other products like that, including glulam, beams of various sizes and dimensions that builders buy off the shelf, if you like. Like it's a -- it will become like a high value-added lumber product. So it will follow the market and will be -- it will track the inputs. Like as lumber costs go up and down, the value or cost of engineered wood products will go up and down with it. But we'll be a really big player in the space, and so we'll have that competitive advantage throughout the cycle.

Andrew Kuske

Analyst

Very helpful. And if I may, just one final one. Given what's happened in Europe with power prices in Germany in particular and your exposure there, do you think about engaging in a longer-term contract or just a contract to lock in cash flows?

David Gandossi

Management

Well, the -- we do have our tariff still on Stendal, the green tariff, we call it the EEG. But we can flip off that when the market prices are higher, and so the EEG tariff is our floor. And when spot prices are higher, we take advantage of that. We're not intending to lock in any kind of forwards on that at this point in time. The world is just too unclear to us. But we believe that having the very modern and expansive generating capacity that we have means that we don't buy power ever, other than in start-up, and we enjoy very high electricity prices when the conditions are as they are now.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Andrew Shapiro from Lawndale Capital Management.

Andrew Shapiro

Analyst

Just a few questions. On the Rosenthal turbine business interruption insurance claim, which there wasn't enough visibility on in the last call, are you able to provide a range of the claim size at this time yet?

David Gandossi

Management

No, Andrew. I don't think I can. We've filed with the insurance company. I think we did that in early April, and we haven't heard back. And we don't know what their position is going to be, so it would be premature of me to give guidance on that.

Andrew Shapiro

Analyst

Okay. Including even a range?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes, yes. We're not going to provide...

Andrew Shapiro

Analyst

And the 35 tonnes of pulp logistically delayed from Canada to Asia in the fourth quarter that went out the door in Q1, can you approximate the amount of revenue shift into the first quarter of '22 that we benefited from this?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes. No. It doesn't really work that way. What Dave was saying is that during the first quarter, we needed to slow the Peace River mill down because we didn't have enough freight equipment -- enough equipment to move the pulp to customers. So that was about 35,000 tonnes that we left on the table.

Andrew Shapiro

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, with the transition occurring, I wanted to say, first off, it's been a real pleasure working with you and engaging with you for well over a decade, I think, that we did from when you were CFO and all and going to miss you. And at some point, we're going to get the opportunity to meet Juan Carlos. Do you or David know what the present plans for virtual or in-person IR activities are going to be in the coming months and when -- and what the kind of the rollout will be with the new CEO?

David Gandossi

Management

Well, there's -- we've got a pretty extensive transition plan for Juan Carlos, obviously, getting around and meeting all the employees and touring the mills and getting up to speed. I'm supporting him, along with the other senior members of our team, in the transition. Dave's got continuing investor relations activities. And to the extent that Juan Carlos can participate is really yet to be seen. Just a little too early for the 2 of us to commit him, but he'll be getting up to speed very quickly, I'm sure.

Andrew Shapiro

Analyst

Okay. Well, very good, and I hope we can stay in touch during your retirement. Going to miss you.

David Gandossi

Management

Great. Thanks, Andrew. You, too.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Sven Carlin [ph], a private investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Davids, I got 3 questions. One is you talked about downtime at the mills being less than last year, substantially less than last year, but you didn't give me the 2 numbers. This year, expecting downtime of -- did I hear 67 days?

David Gandossi

Management

That's right, Sven.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And last year, it was over 100. What was the number?

David Gandossi

Management

Dave's just flipping. We had the recovery boiler built in there which was obviously expensive. Remember, things got a little cloudy since because we did get the business interruption insurance for the downtime on the recovery boiler repair as well.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Right. I am aware of that.

David Gandossi

Management

It is -- I think the point for listeners is it's a lighter maintenance year this year than last year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. The second question is your CLT hiring ramp-up that's been going on now for 4, 5 months. How much money did you spend in the first quarter that impacted the EBITDA number? I mean, you didn't have any revenue. You talked about your first delivery just took place, so I assume that was in April. So with no revenues, what were your costs at that plant in the first quarter?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes. Well, actually, I think it would be fair to say we, more or less, broke even in the quarter. And what we've been doing is we've been -- the first step of the ramp-up was to get the long-length finger-jointing going, so buying box cars of lumber, #2s, #3s, and producing the engineered product, which is, on average, a 28-foot long-length finger-jointed product. And so we've, more or less, been covering our costs doing that. The CLT project was a small one on its own. I'm not going to disclose the margin from that. But again, what's really exciting is, as we make further investments in the facility and as we -- like we'll build up our CLT volumes, but we're also going to build up our capacity to do glulam, and that will result in the plant being -- when we're finished, the plant will always be busy, regardless of how much CLT business we have. And then as we bid on those jobs, we'll bid on higher-margin jobs and produce catalog components. The whole industry is evolving along the lines of like imagine modular housing, modular buildings where the floor plates are -- they're like an item in a catalog. It's like a 2x4 floor plates, whatever the dimension is. And as builders get more comfortable with those kind of products, then we'll just be producing them, putting them in inventory, selling them as the orders come in. And it's really exciting. The CAGRs in this industry in North America look like they're going to be north of 25% for the next 5 or more years on demand.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. And the third question is what was the currency impact on your income statement and your balance sheet in the quarter?

David Ure

Management

Well, it was positive. We haven't disclosed it, Sven. But I can tell you, in general, we are -- our sensitivity to foreign exchange rates for every penny change, for any penny increase in the value of the Canadian dollar -- against the Canadian dollar, it's about $7 million a year. And against the euro, it's about $5 million a year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, okay. And just the last comment, David Gandossi, I just want to thank you for your efforts over the years. I think your leadership style has been incredibly effective, and the company has been very well-run. So thank you.

David Gandossi

Management

Thank you, Sven.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Next question comes from the line of Paul Quinn from RBC Capital Markets.

Matthew McKellar

Analyst

This is Matthew McKellar on for Paul Quinn. First, I was wondering if you could share your thoughts on the sustainability of pulp pricing here. We've seen pricing move higher. It sounds like you're expecting continued upward pricing pressure based at least partially on low inventories. What sort of things might potentially bring balance back to the markets? And to what extent might we be seeing some of that already with the return of some European supply and reduced demand from China?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes. Well, there's quite a few drivers in the market. It's a lot of different things going on. One is, obviously, demand in China is particularly weak right now, all the pandemic lockdowns and so on. But it's also difficult for Chinese paper companies to get pulp because the ports are just so congested. So they're having a difficult time. As I mentioned, those customers that use hardwood are having difficulty getting hardwood product, particularly the birch hardwood. The European market is supported -- paper markets are supported by the inability of Chinese paper companies to export to Europe, so there's very little import competition, so things are particularly strong in Europe. And then there's a whole bunch of takeaways on pulp. There's mills around the world that are going to struggle with access to chemicals, access to human resources to conduct maintenance, access to parts, critical spares and things like that, that we always took for granted. Just-in-time deliveries all of a sudden may not show up. And then there's -- some of the old-timers are really starting to show their age, and we've seen a few mills shift from bleached to unbleached as a result of that. So a lot of different things going on. I personally am quite bullish about the future. I think the -- there's still quite a bit of old capacity running. I think fiber scarcity is really -- we're going to see that big time with climate change. Old-growth deferrals in British Columbia, Fires throughout the boreal and Russia and other places. The war in Ukraine is a big takeaway for fiber in certain regions, so -- and hopefully, this pandemic problem in China will end. And consumption -- demand and consumption of paper products will start to grow again, and things will unwind and get back to normal. So I don't know if that helps, but those are all the big factors. Well, I guess one more thing we're always conscious of is the recycled fiber basket continues to diminish in quality and quantity. Less and less of the end-use products for long fiber are recyclable. Things like toilet paper, tissue papers and all those sorts of things don't end up in the recycled basket. It's more hardwood and other recycled furnishes that continue to diminish in quality over time, so I think virgin displacing recycle will become a strategy for many papermakers going forward in the future for paper products as well as for packaging. So basically bumpy for a bit, but -- and a lot of different things going on. But generally, for the next quarter, I feel pretty good about it. And for the long term, I certainly feel great about it.

Matthew McKellar

Analyst

Great. That's really helpful. And then maybe just -- can you talk a bit about Canadian fiber costs? It sounds like you're seeing strong demand there and expecting fiber costs to increase again in the second quarter. Could you elaborate just a bit on the dynamics you're seeing there? What kind of progression we should expect quarter-over-quarter?

David Gandossi

Management

Well, for us, it's -- I think it will be modest. And there's -- for our Celgar mill, there's lots of fiber around us. Our roundwood fiber costs are a little higher than residual costs, and that's what the investment in woodroom is all about. We're going to make a significant step change in our own processing costs, both transportation and processing, better yields and so on. Other parts of Canada, I think, are going to struggle a little bit more. Like I know there's pockets where fiber is very scarce, and there's much more competition, and that will drive higher prices. So it really depends on where you are in Canada and on how much inflation you're going to see on fiber. For us, it's going to be modest. It will be very much like what we've got going on right now in the first quarter.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Kasia Kopytek from TD Securities.

Kasia Kopytek

Analyst

It's Kasia filling in for Sean. Just going back to the chemical shortages, we are hearing that some suppliers declaring force majeure as a result of sodium chloride shortages. Can you give some context where Mercer is positioned? Are you guys able to secure supply? And what potential magnitude of cost inflation are you looking at for this cost bucket?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes. Well, chloride has been a challenge, and I think it will continue to be for the next 3 weeks to a month probably. Our feeling at this stage is we don't see -- we don't believe we're going to run out. I think we've got line of sight on enough deliveries that will be okay. There is obviously cost pressures on all chemical supplies. But again, our energy is a great hedge against all of those. And yes, so fingers crossed, we're going to be good. We think we are. But I know others are struggling as well, and we'll see some pulp downtime as a result, I'm sure, in certain parts of the globe.

Kasia Kopytek

Analyst

And do you see any limits on -- I mean, as I understand, a lot of the chemicals are produced in Western Europe. I don't know if some of those volumes that were previously shipped to Russia are now staying domestically. Do you see any benefits from that to your domestic production base or not much?

David Gandossi

Management

I can't comment on that. I don't know.

Kasia Kopytek

Analyst

Okay. Fair enough. And just turning to Friesau, just wondering if you could provide context where that facility is running now. I think about a year ago, you had guided to Friesau running at about a 500 million to 550 million board foot pace over the subsequent 6 to 9 months, and I think we're still a bit short of that. So how do you see those volumes evolving at that facility in the near term or midterm over the next year?

David Gandossi

Management

Yes, yes. Well, I think on 2 shifts, that's a 550 million board foot mill. We've been doing quite a bit of construction at it. We slowed down a little bit to do some work on the log sorting line. There's just -- we've kept the mill running throughout all of these different phases of construction. So what you're seeing, anything below 550 million is really, in my mind, is just a result of some of these logistics issues. What's cool about that mill is if we ran 3 shifts, that would be up over 700 million board feet. The challenge with 3 shifts is labor, finding all the right people and training them and ensuring that they're able to work at the capacity that we need them to. This is a very modern facility, very advanced technologies. And we're working on a third shift, developing people, but it's going to take a little while. I don't even want to hazard to say how many quarters it will take. But there is -- there's a couple of hundred million board feet of further capacity in that facility constrained only by labor.

Operator

Operator

We have no further questions at this time. Please continue.

David Gandossi

Management

Well, if there's no further questions, I just want to thank everybody for attending the call. And it's been my great pleasure to be Mercer's President and CEO, and I'm very proud of this management team. It's -- the company is in good hands, and Juan Carlos Bueno comes to us with many, many years of experience in our space, and I'm sure it's going to be a really nice next chapter of growth for all of us. So thanks for listening, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.