William J. Wheeler - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Analyst · Suneet Kamath with, Sanford Bernstein
So, let’s start with the accounting. I’m probably not qualified to answer this question. I don’t know what really our … obviously we let all this into the same earnings calls about what some of our peers are doing. We obviously have a very different approach. I guess my feel … and I don’t think we are inconsistent with where our outside auditors are in terms of what we should be doing regarding OTTI. So I have a hard time explaining kind of what some of our peers’ motivation is. We don’t think that is really appropriate. We think that you do need to exercise. You should not have a bright line test. You need to exercise judgment about whether or not these securities are really money good or not. And because we think that is the fairest representation of what is really going on in the company. So the idea of I will take a capital loss and then it will just accrete it back in the earnings overtime, you know that strikes me as financial engineering, not necessarily good accounting. So I guess -- I mean that is sort of I guess our take. But again, I am sure I am completely unqualified unqualified, somebody will explain to me I’m wrong. But no, that obviously what we think we’re doing is the proper interpretation, and also I think our outside auditors would agree with us. So I do not know if that helps. The second thing about expenses, yeah, it was a good number this quarter. First quarter often is a good number for us for a variety of reasons. I think we’re still basically in my mind on our plan number, which is 28 to 29% is what we said. That’s a substantial drop from last year’s number, which I think ended up at about 30.5. So we have sort of ratcheted down sort of spending levels this year already. Is it impossible that it will move more? Yeah, probably, but that is a decision we will obviously be monitoring over the course of the year. Obviously some of the spending we’re doing we’re trying to build growth for the future, and so that’s a little bit about our philosophy there. So we will clearly, yes, expense levels, we could bring them down further if we thought it was appropriate, but right now I think we’re tracking well on plan.
Suneet Kamath - Sanford C. Bernstein & Company.: Thanks, maybe just one quick follow-up on the OTTIs. I guess given the current environment, I have been hearing more and seeing more analysis done on book value inclusive of AOCI. I know that you show it both ways. But can you just confirm that the rating agencies when they look at your, say, leverage ratios and those sorts of things, do they use book value including AOCI, or do they exclude it?