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Medallion Financial Corp. (MFIN)

Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 2, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to Medallion Financial's 2020 Third Quarter Earnings Call. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings announcement, which was released prior to this call, and which also may be found on the company's website at Medallion.com. Before we begin formal remarks, we need to remind everyone that matters discussed on this call include forward-looking statements, or projected financial information that involves risks and uncertainties that may cause the company’s actual results to differ materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements and projected financial information. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, undue reliance should not be placed upon them. For further information on factors that could impact the company and the statements and projections contained herein, please refer to the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Each forward-looking statement and projection of financial information made during this call, is based on information available as of the date of this call. We disclaim any obligations to update any forward-looking statements unless required by law. I would now like to introduce Mr. Andrew Murstein, President of Medallion Financial. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Andrew Murstein

Management

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for participating in our 2020 third quarter earnings call. Joining me on today's call is our CEO, Alvin Murstein; our CFO, Larry Hall; and our Director of Investor Relations, Alex Arzeno. Let's just jump right into the Medallion portfolio as a result of the negative impact on the ongoing COVID 19 pandemic on the taxi industry, the company took the necessary steps of impairing our remaining Medallion portfolio, thus placing all Medallion loans on non-accrual status, and lowering of the New York City Medallion collateral value to $90,300 at the end of the third quarter, a substantial drop from the net carrying value of 119,500 last quarter. While we remain optimistic about the potential for long-term recovery and our ability to collect, such recoveries are primarily dependent upon, among other things, the overall health of the taxi industry and cab ridership in New York City. For the first nine months of the year, we managed to collect 8.8 million on the Medallion-related assets. AT the end of the third quarter, the company’s net Medallion lending portfolio and loan collateral in the process of foreclosure, total Medallion related assets, stood at $85 million, which is just 5% of total assets. In terms of just Medallion loans on our books, that figure is now just 33.5 million or 2.5% of assets. We believe this quarter’s write downs and reserves, now puts Medallion losses effectively behind us, and better allows our core lending segments to become the focus of attention. We’re optimistic that we will have a strong fourth quarter and strong 2021. With that being said, let's now touch upon our consumer and commercial lending segments. Our consumer lending segments had strong growth in application volumes once again this quarter, which led to originations of 136…

Larry Hall

Management

Thank you, Andrew. Net loss was $23.6 million or $0.97 per share, compared to net income of $5 million or $0.20 per share in the prior year quarter. As Andrew previously stated, as a result of impairing all Medallion loans, along with the uncertainty of the long-term impact of COVID-19 on our Medallion lending segment, we recorded a loss of $35.9 million for that segment for the quarter. Future losses coming from our Medallion lending segments, should have a minimal impact on our results moving forward. It will now become more clear than ever that our profitable and higher yields in consumer and commercial segments, should easily outweigh the unprofitable and lower yielding Medallion segment. Excluding loan collateral in the process of foreclosure, our net Medallion loan portfolio now stands at $33.5 million at the end of the third quarter, a 68% decrease from year end, and a 70% decrease from the 2019 third quarter. When including loans in the process of foreclosure and owned Chicago Medallion assets, total Medallion exposure was $81.3 million or 5% of total assets as of September 30, 2020, compared to $164.4 million or 11% of total assets a year ago. Our net interest margin increased to 8.72% this quarter, from 8.23% in the 2020 second quarter, and remained in line with the 8.71% we reported in the 2019 third quarter. The increase this quarter from last quarter, reflected the increase of our interest-earning assets, which resulted in the increased yield on our performing assets. Total provision for loan losses was $39.7 million in the 2020 third quarter, compared to $8.3 million in the 2019 third quarter. The large difference was driven by the $37.2 million provision we took on the Medallion portfolio this quarter. As a result of the impairment of the Medallion portfolio…

Andrew Murstein

Management

Thank you, Larry. Operator, we can now begin the Q&A portion of the call

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Alex Twerdahl with Piper Sandler. You may proceed with your question.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys.

Andrew Murstein

Management

Morning.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

First off, I was just wondering how you guys arrived at the $90,000 value for collateral in New York City. It seems pretty conservative to me when I look at some recent transfers in the market. I'm just wondering if in fact it's just a conservative approach, or if you think that collateral values or Medallion values are actually going to drop down to that level in the near term.

Andrew Murstein

Management

Thank you, Alex. So what we usually do, and we did again this quarter is, we look at all of the transfers for the quarter, and the median was correct above that number, but we ruled out a few that were not arm’s length in our view. We usually do a lot of due diligence here. We talk to the city officials about the transfers. We try and talk to brokers about what's about to go through, what has gone through. So we knocked out a couple of sales that were between 150 and $200,000 that city officials kind of indicated perhaps were not arm’s length. So if you knock that off, then the median is about $95,000, and we usually take about a $5,000 cost to selling Medallion as an estimate. And that's how we got that $90,300. In terms of future prices it's hard to tell. The business looks like it's coming back slowly in New York City. Just the eye test will kind of tell you that if you look on the streets, you'll see a lot more cabs occupied, but it's pretty hard to predict what future values might be.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe, Larry, you can kind of help us understand or remind us how the accounting works, now that that the whole thing is not non-accrual, one, is there a possibility that these collateral values do rebound, that there could be a write-up in the portfolio? And then just remind us in terms of the recoveries, how they'll actually hit the P&L over the next couple of quarters, should they arise?

Larry Hall

Management

Sure. The first part of the question, on the reserves, you're always able to reverse reserves that you've booked, at least back to the original amount. You can't obviously write an asset up above its original par, but you can reverse reserves. But just because of what's going on in the Medallion industry for the last couple of years, it's not likely that one quarter would make us change our mind and do any kind of a reversal. I think we need to see several quarters of that kind of activity before we believe that it was really sustainable. Turn to the accounting, I mean, basically all the cash that comes in is most likely going to be applied to principal. If there was a charge-off that we received cash for, that would be viewed as a recovery. And the other aspect of impairing everything and put it on non-accrual of course, is that all the accrued interest was reversed and we won't be booking any more interest income.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. And then, I mean, now that it's written down, would you consider selling off the portfolio and just completely washing your hands of it, or you plan to continue servicing it?

Andrew Murstein

Management

No. we'd be open-minded about selling it. Back in January, right before the pandemic hit, there was a lot of interest in this sector. There were probably about five or more major private equity firms and funds that we spoke to, who were interested in this space. They usually targeted kind of a 25% or higher return. So at some discounted level, I'd rather give those types of returns to our shareholders, rather than sell them at a depressed price. But if the price was fair in our mind, and we can get them entirely off of our books, I think we would probably entertain that.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Andrew Murstein

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. You may proceed with your question.

Mike Grondahl

Analyst · Northland Securities. You may proceed with your question.

Yes, good morning, guys. A couple of questions on the Medallions. One, the annualized revenue hit, is that roughly the 100 times 4% to 5%? Just trying to figure out interest income, how much of a hit that's going to take going forward. And then Larry, if you could talk or maybe quantify for us the accrued interest that was reversed in the quarter, how big was that? How much did that contribute to the loss?

Andrew Murstein

Management

So in terms of the hit not much. The first nine months of this year, unfortunately we only probably had about $86,000 of payments come in. So it's not going to really affect us in the future. If you're talking about now a $33 million loan portfolio, which is - I've been here 30 years, it's never been anywhere near this level. $33 million at 4%, you're only talking about $1.2 million even if everybody was paying, which they're not. So, it should not have a big effect on us in in the future.

Mike Grondahl

Analyst · Northland Securities. You may proceed with your question.

Got it. And then can you talk a little bit - just two questions on the consumer portfolio. One is, I think your Q's coming, but what percentage of that consumer portfolio is deferred right now, or getting like forbearance support? And then secondly, how do we think about growth with your tier one a little bit above 15%?

Larry Hall

Management

The consumer loans still in a state of deferral, were $5.6 million or five tenths of a percent of the gross consumer loans at September 30. And that's down sharply from roughly $35 million or 3% at the second quarter.

Andrew Murstein

Management

Yes. That portfolio has been great. We were expecting higher deferrals honestly, and it's really been working out very well for us. In terms of the capital ratio of the bank, you're right. It’s about 15.47% or so, which is still very high compared to most banks. We're probably in the top percentages of banks in the country. Most have capital ratios of, I don’t know, 8% to 10% or so. So this is very well capitalized, and we don't think it's going to affect consumer growth at all. The Medallion’s write-offs this quarter, we were kind of holding our breath to make sure that when we wrote those off, it wouldn't affect it hopefully. And what the capital ratio would be, we didn't know. And then we were pleasantly surprised that it was as high as it was, and the growth in consumer just keeps chugging along. I don't think the Medallion business will be affecting it at all.

Mike Grondahl

Analyst · Northland Securities. You may proceed with your question.

Got it. That’s good to hear. Okay, thank you.

Andrew Murstein

Management

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of today’s question-and-answer session. I would like to turn this call back over to Mr. Andrew Murstein, for closing remarks.

Andrew Murstein

Management

Thank you, Laura. And I also wanted to thank everyone for attending this morning’s call. We’re happy to follow up your question, if it was not answered today. To that end, please contact our Investor Relations department at 212-328-2176 or email at investorrelations@Medallion.com. Thanks, everybody, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for joining us today. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time.