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MIND Technology, Inc. (MIND)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Dec 10, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Mitcham Industries' Third Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Karen Roan of Dennard Lascar. Thank you, you may begin.

Karen Roan

Analyst

Thank you, Jesse. Good morning, and welcome to the Mitcham Industries' Fiscal 2015 Third Quarter Conference Call. We appreciate all of you joining us today. Your hosts are Bill Mitcham, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Rob Capps, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before I turn the call over to management, I have a few items to cover. If you would like to listen to a replay of today's call, it will be available by webcast by going to the Investor Relations section of the company's website at mitchamindustries.com or via a recorded instant replay until December 24. Information on how to access the replay was provided in yesterday's earnings release. Information reported on this call speaks only as of today, Wednesday, December 10, 2014, and therefore, you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made by the management during this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and include known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, many of which the company is unable to predict or control that may cause the company's actual future results or performance to materially differ from any future results or performance expressed or implied by those statements. These risks and uncertainties include the risk factors disclosed by the company from time to time in its filings with the SEC, including in its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended January 31, 2014. Furthermore, as we start this call, also please refer to the statements regarding forward-looking statements incorporated in our press release issued yesterday, and please note that the contents of our conference call this morning are covered by these statements. Now I would like to turn over the call to Mitcham's President and CEO, Bill Mitcham.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

Thanks, Karen, and good morning, everyone. I think Karen's got a better part than we have. We'd like to thank all of you for joining us today for our fiscal 2015 third quarter conference call. I'll begin by making a few general comments about the quarter and our markets. Rob will discuss our financial performance in detail, and at that we'll open the call for questions. We are very pleased that we have delivered both year-over-year and sequential double-digit growth in our leasing revenue business despite a very soft seismic market. Our U.S. leasing revenue results were up strongly from a year ago. You heard that right, the U.S. leasing. U.S. leasing revenues results were up strongly from a year ago. And it was the single-largest contributor to our third quarter leasing revenues. This improvement was driven by a large job that we began and completed in the third quarter. However, the U.S. market is still weak with limited visibility, and we think there's still an excess of capacity in this market. There are pockets of opportunity in the form of pending projects, very sporadic and I can -- you could bet that we are outsizing every one of them. The E&P companies have -- are continuing to emphasize return on investment and cash flow generation in the face of lower commodity prices. Now we're seeing more on the development and less and less on exploration activities. We think the recent volatility in crude price oil -- in crude oil prices will likely exacerbate this. Marine activity remains very subdued, although we will see some of the typical seasonal fall and pickup. We do have some opportunities in Canada and Alaska for the winter that may contribute to our results, but the overall market in Canada this winter is probably…

Robert Capps

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Let me begin by discussing the top line of each of our 2 segments, which are equipment leasing and Seamap. Then I'll follow with a discussion of the profitability of each of the segments and conclude with a discussion of our consolidated results and financial position. First, let me talk about the equipment leasing business. Our core leasing revenues for the third quarter were $14.3 million, that's up 81% from last year's third quarter and up 74% sequentially from the second quarter. All regions, with the exception of Canada, posted year-over-year and sequential gain. As Bill said, the largest-single factor contributing to the increase was a sizable third quarter job in the U.S. that will not impact the fourth quarter. Similarly, there were some significant jobs in Latin America, which will not continue into the fourth quarter. Leaving the leasing equipment sales -- lease equipment sales, revenues were $475,000 this quarter compared to $3.2 million in the same quarter last year. Our other equipment sales, which include heli-picker equipment sales from our Australian subsidiary SAP, $2.4 million this quarter compared to $3.7 million in the same quarter a year ago. And now turning to our manufacturing business, Seamap. Revenues there were $5.8 million in the quarter compared to $5.5 million in the third quarter a year ago. As Bill said, there were no large system deliveries during the quarter due to customer shipments schedules. So Seamap's revenues declined solely and sales from aftermarket equipment, replacement parts, engineering services and ongoing support and repair services. As Bill mentioned, our recently acquired product lines didn't contribute as much as we expected, boosting operating as much as we thought they would. Let me now discuss the profitability of each of the segments. Gross profit for our…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from the line of Veny Aleksandrov with FIG Partners.

Veny Aleksandrov

Analyst

My first question is on Russia. So you said that you expect to go to into there. Can you talk a little bit more about did you have any impact from the embargo and you talk about foreign exchange losses and the majority of this coming from Russia?

Robert Capps

Analyst

Sure. So as far as the embargo and the sanctions, they've had an impact and there is a limit or some restrictions on what we can move in there, especially on the marine side. However, we've been able to -- of course, we already had equipment in Russia, so that wasn't affected. But there's other equipments that we had in other parts of the world, which weren't impacted by the sanctions. There's forward to be able to move additional equipment in the country and to serve the contracts. So that's the reason we think we'll be at least as good if not a bit better than last year. From a foreign exchange standpoint, actually, most of the losses were not coming out of Russia. But most of the losses that we incurred are a result of items, which are not because of the weakness of the installer, but because of the foreign currencies such as Colombian pesos, such as the euro, even, the Australian dollar weakening. And since we have -- our foreign subsidiaries have certain obligations stated in those currencies that has an impact from an accounting standpoint. As far as risk is concerned, obviously, the ruble has been under a great deal of pressure recently. We have looked at some things to do to hedge our position there. Fortunately, many of our contracts for the coming season are U.S. dollar denominated. And so we actually are paid -- although we're paid in rubles, the amount of the payment is determined at the payment date. So we really don't have U.S. dollar exposure for most cases. And in those cases, where we do actually bill in rubles. And we're looking at some opportunities to bring cash back on an expedited basis to mitigate that risk. But I think we're getting our arms around that right now. But in short answer to that, the dismal losses were not ruble related this time.

Veny Aleksandrov

Analyst

And then on the marine side, how should we think about the cycle? How long do you think the cycle and the downturn will last from your previous historic experience?

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

Well, we during the downturn? [indiscernible].

Robert Capps

Analyst

That's a good question, Veny.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

Everything you read -- Veny says everybody's just writing off next year. Okay. So from there, '17, '18.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Yes, I think, certainly, most people are thinking 2015 -- calendar '15 is going to be a pretty tough year in the marine side. If you look at what PGG, PGS, and most recently, [indiscernible] have announced. I mean, they're certainly putting a lot of capacity out of the marketplace, which will work itself through eventually. But I think it's going to be -- it's going to take next year to work itself out.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

Absolutely.

Veny Aleksandrov

Analyst

And the last one is just a confirmation. So my understanding is that leasing -- equipment leasing revenues are going to be flattish Q4 over Q3. The U.S. job is not there, but Russia's kicking in and some Canada. And this -- and there might be job that might affect those jobs up or down. Is this correct?

Robert Capps

Analyst

That's true. Just keep in mind that, as Bill said, our current view is we think we'll be flattish. But we're going into the Russian and the Canadian winter seasons. And other job actually kicks off and the start of January 1 or January 20 has a big impact, or the start of the December 15. So those sorts of things can have a big impact because these are very large jobs many times. So just keep that in mind.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is coming from the line of Georg Venturatos with Johnson Rice.

Georg Venturatos

Analyst

I just wanted to touch on Seamap. Obviously, with the marine environment that we're looking at, just wanted to get your thoughts on obviously, this aftermarket spare parts business has always produced really nice margins. In this type of environment, do you think those are sustainable at current levels? Obviously, this last quarter was strong again.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Yes, I think so, George. I mean just kind of based on the activity there are some things aren't going to happen, aren't going to be as robust. But people are still operating. I mean that's the thing to remember. There's still a lot of vessels out there in the water. And there are lots of surveys being done right now.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

That sounds and they got keep their equipment running.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Exactly right.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

And in times like this, they're not out buying brand new equipment. They're repairing what they have and put a band aid on it whatever it takes. That's even more so, in terms of when you look at repairs and after repair service.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Exactly right. I think the other thing to remember, Georg, is even though these guys are taking capacity out of their fleets, they're retiring older vessels. They're still looking to upgrade technology. I mean, there are still new vessels that are coming out. So we still have opportunities to equip new vessels, and I think there are opportunities to reequip some additional or existing vessels with newer technologies. So it's not all bad news for us in this environment although certainly, we'd rather see it go another direction.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

Some of those vessels that they're taking out, some of the heating vessels have some -- they have equipment that was trailing there in the '70s and '80s.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Yes. So this is definitely older equipments coming out.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

We need that junk out of the market anyway.

Georg Venturatos

Analyst

That makes sense. That's helpful. And then I guess you mentioned a few regions that you're optimistic on potentially in '15. I guess we've heard some of your commentary on Latin America and Europe more recently in the last few quarters. But I guess, any color you could give on what you're seeing, I guess, as potential opportunities in Alaska and Asia Pacific as well?

Robert Capps

Analyst

Well, I think, Alaska, frankly, is they're kind of projects specific. I mean, there are couple of things that are going to be done this winter. It looks like that will have some opportunities on.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

Start in March, April, May.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Yes. So there, certainly, is just going to be some opportunities there. But I think, overall, I think you're going to see weakness there as you do in Canada. But Latin America was really a mixed bag. Again, this past year, we really were fortunate with some projects and there are some other large projects being planned for this coming year. And it remains a very difficult environment. As Bill said, the Colombian contractors are having a tough time with the oil companies, especially Ecopetrol. It's a tough environment because of weather cold and permitting and the community relation issues. So it's having a tough time, but there are some pockets of opportunities. So it's a bit of a mixed bag. I think as Asia -- as far as Asia Pacific goes, it's really kind of steady as it goes. We've seen kind of a steady level of business there, and it looks like there's going to be some continued opportunities like that, maybe not all in the same places, but Australia other parts of Southeast Asia, it looks like there's some opportunities coming up. So it's a tough thing to really describe very precisely because it is such a mixed bag right now.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from the line of Mark Brown with Global Hunter Securities.

Mark Brown

Analyst

I was just curious on the ION Geophysical marine assets that you acquired. If you could give us an update. I don't know if you can tell us the revenues that you're generating from that business now that it's integrated into your full -- your financials. And just what the prospects are for China and the growth and penetration of that market?

Robert Capps

Analyst

Yes. So I think -- for some competitive reasons, I think, we don't want to give precise numbers on those, which I think we were...

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

We're pleased.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Yes, so we were looking I think he and I talked and others have talked about and written about looking for revenues into sort of the $3 million to $5 million range of the business. I think we're certainly well eying for that. Again, aftermarket business, spare parts repairs, things of that nature. As far as China, I think, we're pretty pleased here. We have some specific opportunities that we're pursuing right now that are very -- look very promising. So we think we'll see some contribution out of China and these new relationships very soon, maybe even in the third -- in the fourth quarter. Well, I think we were pleased about the relationships we've developed and kind of the reception we've gotten from those customers. So we're feeling pretty good about that.

Mark Brown

Analyst

Good, good. I had a quick guidance-type question on lease pooled depreciation expense. Should we model that as flat going forward? Should that be declining somewhat? I just wanted to see if you had any color?

Robert Capps

Analyst

It's going to be declining, but slightly. I think you'll see a significant decline until we get into next year. So slightly in the next couple of 3 quarters.

Mark Brown

Analyst

Okay, good. And then on your share repurchase, the -- it sounds like that's something that you're interested in re-upping your authorization and taking advantage of the share price and evaluation. Curious, how much leverage are you willing to put on your balance sheet in order to pursue more share repurchase in the future?

Robert Capps

Analyst

Yes, that's a great question. I think, we -- as you know, we are very debt adverse. So I think we want to be pretty limited as to going out and levering up just about buyback stock. However, if we see we can buy the stock out of cash flow and we have to temporary lever up because of working capital flows, then we're certainly willing to do that. And frankly, we've done some of that in this past year, last few months.

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

It was 12 million times 9.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Okay. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us on this quarter's call. And [indiscernible]

Billy Mitcham

Analyst

Before you toss that, I just like to say that this is Karen Roan's last call, and she's hosted almost every call for the last 6 years and done a fantastic job. We're going to miss her. She's going to ride off into the sunset. She's going to play poker. We can say you can play with your dogs and your kids. But thank you sincerely from the bottom of our hearts. Thank you, Karen, for everything that you've done for us.

Karen Roan

Analyst

Thanks, Bill.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Okay. Everybody, we'll talk to you on the fourth quarter call in a few months.

Robert Capps

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation, and you may disconnect your lines at this time.