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MIND Technology, Inc. (MIND)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 8, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Mitcham Industries Second Quarter Fiscal 2017 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Carol Coale of Dennard Lascar. Thank you, Miss Coale. You may now begin.

Carol Coale

Analyst

Thank you. Rob. Good morning and welcome to the Mitcham Industries Fiscal Year 2017 Second Quarter Conference Call. We appreciate all of you joining us today. Your hosts are Guy Malden, Co-Chief Executive Officer and Executive Vice President of Marine Systems; and Rob Capps, Co-Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer. Before I turn over the call to management, I have a few items to cover. If you would like to listen to a replay of today's call, it will be available for 90 days via webcast by going to the Investor Relations section of the company's website at mitchamindustries.com or via a recorded instant replay until September 22. Information on how to access the replay was provided in yesterday's earnings press release. Information reported on this call speaks only as of today, Thursday, September 8, 2016 and therefore you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made by Management during this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities and Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and include known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, many of which the company is unable to predict or control that may cause the company's actual future results or performance to materially differ from any future results or performance expressed or implied by those statements. These risks and uncertainties include the risk factors disclosed by the company from time to time in its filings with the SEC, including in its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended January 31, 2016. Furthermore, as we start this call, please also refer to the statement regarding forward-looking statements incorporated in our press release issued yesterday and please note that the contents of our conference call this morning are covered by those statements. I would now like to turn the call over to Guy Malden.

Guy Malden

Analyst

Thanks, Carole, and good morning, everyone. We would like to thank you for joining us today for our fiscal 2017 second quarter conference call. I'll begin by making some general comments about the quarter. Rob will then discuss our financial results in more detail, and address our market outlook. We will then open the call for questions. Turning now to our second-quarter results. Our 2 segments produced different results during our second quarter. The equipment leasing segment, both land and marine, remained weak and unfolded essentially as we had anticipated. The equipment manufacturing and sales segment generated improved results over last year second quarter. In the leasing segment, we saw a continuation of the themes we discussed during our prior call. While we are seeing indications of improvement for the second half and coming year, it will take time for those opportunities to be reflected in our financial results. That being said, we did see a year over year improvement in our revenues. This improvement was mostly driven by our Equipment Manufacturing and Sales segment, which benefited from the addition of Klein Marine Systems as well as improved equipment sales from SAP. Our Seamap business was roughly flat with last year, despite the ongoing downturn in the oil and gas industry. Our leasing segment continues to reflect sluggish conditions in the seismic market, as revenues were down substantially both sequentially and year over year. As we've emphasized before, E&P companies and contractors remain focused on preserving cash and minimizing expenditures. However, more stable commodity prices and slowly improving market fundamentals have started to generate an increasing level of inquiries, and we have been in several significant projects in various parts of the world. We therefore anticipate some improvement in our leasing segment in the back half of fiscal 2017 and…

Rob Capps

Analyst

Thanks, Guy. I'll give you a more detailed review of the financial results, and then I'll make some comments about our view of the current and near term market. First, let me draw the lines of business within our Equipment Leasing segment, which includes our leasing business, sales and lease pool equipment and some additional miscellaneous equipment sales. Revenues for the segment as a whole totaled $2.9 million in the quarter compared to $4.8 million in the second quarter a year ago. Activity was lower in nearly all of our geographical regions, except for both Latin-America and Europe, which provided the bulk of our core leasing revenues in the quarter. As Guy mentioned, although fundamentals for the leasing business are still weak, and based on our visibility into select markets, we do expect the second half of the year to improve versus the first half. Our Lease Pool Equipment sales revenues were $1.3 million in the quarter, compared to $172,000 in the same quarter last year. We do believe there are opportunities to sell certain Lease Pool Equipment over the balance of this fiscal year, and we’ll pursue those opportunities. Let me now turn to our Manufacturing and Equipment sales segment, which include Seamap, Klein and product sales from SAP, our Australian subsidiary. Revenues for the segment as a whole totaled $5.8 million in the quarter, compared to $2.8 million in the second quarter a year ago. Seamap revenues were $2.2 million in the quarter, which is roughly flat with the $2.3 million in the second quarter of last year. Sales from Klein were $2.3 million, and there were no comparable sales a year ago since we acquired Klein in December of last year. Our Klein sales were largely to customers and highly recognized oceanographic industries that are unrelated to…

Operator

Operator

[Operator instructions]. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Tyson Bauer with KC capital. Please proceed with your question.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

Good Morning gentlemen. Just going to ask, get a little more characterization to your comments in regards to improvement, which is a relative term as we’re going to the second half of the year, and the next fiscal year. When you talked about general interest as opposed to maybe a handful of needle moving type projects at these levels, which are more of an all or none type of project that you can bid on, what are you seeing as far as what’s needed to create a more of a broader general interest other than obviously pricing in the global markets? Are there other factors involved that can stimulate that activity and interest beyond just seeing oil go $50, $60 or above?

Rob Capps

Analyst

Tyson, I think that the driver is only at exploration and so it’s expectations for pricing, or probably the most important thing. I think we see as we’ve mentioned, in certain areas of the world, we are seeing activities start to pick up, more projects being planned. We think that’s because of the stability in the energy market, the relative stability. Let’s keep this relative. Does oil have to go to $60 or $75? No, but I think we have seen a continued confidence among the E&P companies and the national oil companies that prices have stabilized and are not going to get worse and that the fundamentals are improving, even though they haven’t turned entirely yet and there are still some negatives that come up with the positives. I think it’s -- overall longer term expectation is going to drive the activity, especially outside North America.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

So when we see the last couple of seasons, winter seasons in the northern hemisphere, obviously Russia widely publicized whether they are going to maintain their coal down production and Canada obviously has not had any robust activity recently whatsoever. What gives you that confidence that even though we have indications of interest, turning those actually into projects and deliveries would occur?

Rob Capps

Analyst

Well of course there is some risk that they don't happen, but I think we were having this conversation 4 months ago. There were no inquiries. There were no projects being planned or projects being cancelled, and we are aware of projects that are in the planning stage. I mean they are being bid to the contractors. They are doing permitting work, things of that nature, so there's strong indications that things are going to happen. Now, is there some risk that the fundamentals change and those could get canceled? Yeah, there’s some risk for that, but I just think the activity level we're seeing is not just in one or two areas. It’s in multiple parts of the world that we're seeing some of this activity. Not going back to 2012 activity levels, so don’t get me wrong, but coming off of where we have been it's a significant change.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

Last question. You talked about commercial and military opportunities going forward. Are those off the shelf purchases of existing products that you have that you don't have those long lead times or catering the product to specific applications? Or are we diving into things that need to get approved by the DOD or other companies that kind of drags out that whole procurement process?

Guy Malden

Analyst

Yeah, Tyson this is off the shelf. All of these projects do not require DOD, Department of Commerce or any kind of BIS expert approval, which is of course good for us, and it’s all standard products.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

All right. Thank you gentlemen.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Mark Brown with Seaport Global. Please proceed with your question.

Mark Brown

Analyst

Good morning gentlemen. I first wanted to -- Hey Rob. I just wanted to check -- It's interesting that you mentioned that you're getting more inquiries from some customers and bidding on some new projects. I don't know if you have any specifics you can share with us around some of those projects. I know that there are confidentiality issues, but perhaps maybe whether these are from national oil companies or independents or IOCs or any detail that you can provide.

Rob Capps

Analyst

Sure, yes. We do want to be guarded with some of the information. It's in multiple geographic areas around the world, and it is -- of course our inquiries are coming from the contracts, [slightly] contractors, both indigenous contractors as well as those who operate in a multinational environment. The underlying projects are a combination of independents, large super majors and NOCs. So I didn’t give you a very specific answer but that's -- it's kind of across the board.

Mark Brown

Analyst

Okay. No, that's helpful. And just your CapEx, I was just curious how we should think about that going forward assuming the same sort of activity levels or maybe a slight uptick in activity from fiscal Q2. What kind of CapEx assumption should we be thinking about including lease pool additions, if any?

Rob Capps

Analyst

It’s very minimal. I think we've had $0.5 million so far this year and it won’t be much more than that going forward. I think we're -- we did guide towards around $1 million for the full year.

Guy Malden

Analyst

Maintenance CapEx.

Rob Capps

Analyst

Yeah, it’s maintenance CapEx or -- if we had a project come up and we needed some particular piece of equipments to allow us to get some of our other equipment out, we might consider that, but it’s going to be very, very limited.

Mark Brown

Analyst

Okay. To what do you attribute the Seamap resiliency when you look at year over year results? It’s just a little bit surprising that that’s held up as well as it has.

Guy Malden

Analyst

Mark, we've got a significant install base, particularly with the geophysical contractors in the oil and gas sector. So you've got a lot of people maximizing the assets they do have so they're sparing up those repair business parts, et cetera. We still have some installations ongoing with one large contractor, their proprietary version of one of our large products at Seamap, so a combination of all of that has allowed the Seamap the luxury if you will of kind of a steady business through this downturn.

Rob Capps

Analyst

Yeah. I think the other thing we’ve seen, Mark, some of our newer projects and things we’re foreseeing today even are non-oil and gas related. They're more in the hydrographic arena survey vessels, some governmental research institutes, things of that nature.

Guy Malden

Analyst

Multi-purpose vessels where you've got hydrographic oceanographic side, and seismic on one platform.

Mark Brown

Analyst

And I was curious on that front, the non-O&G, what type of -- how much visibility do you have? Is it sort of a quarter by quarter, or do you see -- have any ability to see longer term?

Guy Malden

Analyst

That's longer term mainly because these projects, in particular the government directed projects have long lead times, not only in the budgeting process, but also the procurement process for equipment. Some of these projects are actually new build vessels, so you've got some lead time there and some fairly good visibility.

Mark Brown

Analyst

Is this primarily US government and US military applications, or is it other countries that you would provide services?

Guy Malden

Analyst

It's other countries. Some of the client business is US military based and US military related, but I would say the majority of it is other, outside of the US.

Mark Brown

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Mr. Capps, there are no further questions at this time, and I’d like to turn and forward back to you for closing remarks.

Rob Capps

Analyst

Thank you, Rob. I’d like to thank everyone for joining us today, and we look forward to talking to 3 you in months at our third quarter call. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.