Ross Taylor
Analyst · ARS Investment Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Always hard to follow Tyson since he asks all the good fundamental questions. So Rob, I'm just going to -- I'm going to voice some thoughts here. The preferred is actually pretty damn good paper. In fact, it's really good paper for you guys. And there's no way you can go into the marketplace. You paid off a term loan that was, what, [12.9%], I think it was? This preferred is almost 400 bps under that. The fact that you guys and the Board might choose not to pay that off, every time you do that, I mean as an equity holder, I've sat here forever waiting for you guys to get it right. And you're close to getting it right, and I have this feeling you're about the snatch defeat from victory because what if I'm a preferred holder and I get two directors, the first thing I'm telling my directors to do, hire a banker. And there's no way, even with your plans and your confidence, there is that hesitancy, you hear it in your comments, that makes it impossible for this Board to say no to any deal that that banker found that would make the preferred holders whole and the equity holders walk away with next to nothing. And so it's important. Let's get that paper off the back of the common holders, it's just -- it's straightforward. It's -- you can't borrow at 9%. And in fact, you should get to get it going, and that paper is better than going to the bank. I mean eventually, you'll be able to go to the bank and probably borrowing them high single digits at this point in this environment. And it frustrates me, and I just -- I sense that the common holder is just going to be asked to hold a bag and you're going to do a reverse split, get the stock above $1. But in reality, that $8 million, $9 million in value that's attached to the common right now is basically there on the hope that you guys get this thing worked out with the preferred holders. So you are on the Board, and I've known you for a long time, and I know you're a good person and a smart person, and I can't believe that you and this Board are going to let this situation go where you defer the payment again because, as I said, I'm confident Tyson is a smart guy, and I'm sure some of those preferred holders talk to Tyson. And I'm sure they're pretty confident that this company is worth somewhere between $26 million and $50 million or more. And if it's -- if they sell it at $50 million, the preferred holders walk away with everything, and you can't let that happen. Can you?