Thomas Logan
Analyst · Goldman Sachs.
Yes. So what I'd say is that given the mix of our business, which -- every business is unique and certainly, we feel ours is that way as well. And historically, we have been a company that has demonstrated very little cyclicality. We've been kind of an a-cyclical company. What I would tell you is that in the Technologies operating segment overall, the -- when we look at the kind of the key underlying dynamics, in the nuclear markets, we are seeing -- recognizing the most important thing to us in the nuclear markets is the health of the installed base. And our view is that, that customer franchise is healthy in all major markets. And so the level of engagement there and activity continues to reflect that point of view overall. What we're also seeing is a pickup in engagement as it relates to new build activity. And our expectation is that this is an area where, again, over our planning horizon, we expect to see strength in the market overall, and we expect to see an attendant benefit accruing from that overall. Defense has been a sector that we've talked about a lot over the last few quarters, particularly given our expectation that given the risk in Europe as it relates to -- or stemming from the war in Ukraine, that, that might translate into a greater demand for some of the civil defense solutions that we offer and some of the NATO military green gear that we provide. And to a degree, we have seen that. We have seen -- if you look at defense and diversified industrials overall, first half order growth of 28% is very strong, reflective of some activity there. Some of which is outside of cycle. And I think we've noted that as an example, we booked a $10 million European civil defense order in the second quarter. Again, that's kind of reflective of that overall theme. The final thing I would note is on labs and research, kind of our life sciences space overall, where order growth in the first half were 30%. This is a demand dynamic that's driven not only by our conventional base of government and university-funded materials labs, nuclear radiochemistry labs and the like, but also by new applications like mining, where some of the solutions that we offer lend themselves very well to a high degree of productivity increases. And we're seeing strong demand coming from that overall. So as it relates to kind of any early indication of a reversal of those trends or a change in the stance of our customers, we're not seeing it today. And given the history that we've had in these market segments, again, I'd say we've -- we're carrying confidence as we come into the back half of the year and beyond.