Richard Thompson
Analyst · JPMorgan
So Jessica, obviously, as you know, there are 2 IBAT inhibitors that have been studied in the groups of conditions. And I'm delighted that we've got a positive response from both drugs and disappointing, of course, neither drug treats effectively all the patients that are being studied. So, yes, is there a distinction between the 2 drugs. I mean the honest truth is that the -- despite the fact that they're similar studies, we haven't done a head-to-head comparison. And I think if you try to do that right at this moment, you would not find this statistically significant difference between the 2 drugs. They do have a significant response rate and 62% is an excellent response rate, 64% for PFIC, an excellent response rates in terms of pruritus. I think the people sitting around the table will tell me that, that is greater than that shown in odevixibat, but I'm not sure that statistically significant. I think from my point of view, on an individual patient basis, we'll have to dig into this picture and see if we can see any differences between the response rates, I believe the major determinants of whether a patient responds or not in these conditions is the amount of residual bile acid transport. So the best way we have of looking at is to kind of look at the individual mutations that these patients carry. And certainly, that's something I want to do is to dig those down into those [Indiscernible] to see if there's any biochemical predictors of response, any genetic predictors of response, and only when we've done that, can we really see whether there really is any clinically meaningful difference between these drugs. Obviously, there's other factors that come into the availability of the drug, the formulation of the drug, and I'm sure in some territories, certainly, the price of the drug will be an important factor, but in deciding which drug is used. So I think there's that we've got to learn, but there's also other factors which are pharmacological and financial which will impact on it but they're outside my limit.