George W. Buckley - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Analyst
You heard me, John, say earlier that sales have fallen by about... in that segment... in that LCD TV segment have fallen by about 66% of what they were a year ago and profits have fallen by about 80%. So you can sense that, even if we lost all of the TV segment, which I think is unlikely, that we are relatively close to the bottom year, I think, it's an educated guess in some sense, but I think that there'll always be a portion, this is what we see, there will always be a portion of that market, well, we won high-performance televisions. That will give you something of the order, 5% to 7%, maybe 5% to 9% attachment rates. So, I think the bottom is with inside. I'm not making any predictions here, but there is gaining momentum in the interest in energy, and of course one of the way that you can use our films is to take a TV or monitor or even for that matter a notebook and takeout lamps and use the films to brighten them. So you end up using less energy, and that factor is now gaining a lot more interest from the set manufacturers than it once did. So, all I'd say is there's a bit more to go would be my... my estimate, a bit more to go, but we're getting close to the end, and I'm hoping that by the end of '08, we're going to be past all or most all of this, and if there is any bleed-over into '09, I think the bleed-over should be relatively small.