Michael Milotich
Analyst · KBW.
Well, so yes, it's a good question, and good to hear from you, Vasu. We -- there is -- that use case, I would say, has been fairly volatile over the last couple of years, as you can imagine, kind of with the ups and downs of the perception in that market. And it is definitely performing better. And as we announced, I believe, last quarter or the quarter before, Bitpanda, who is a great customer of ours, is starting to get up and running in Europe, which is also helpful. The solution we have in crypto right now, which is that you have a card that allows you to transact essentially in the ecosystem with fiat currency. So no one else has to change the way it works. But your funding source is more of a crypto funding source, and that's done more like as an FX conversion by the issuer. That, we think, is a very compelling use case, even more so today, not just for crypto, but also for stablecoin. So if stablecoins get adoption, and there's a lot of people who are talking about stablecoin, I think things for the whole ecosystem to evolve, it takes time. And so it's going to be a couple of years, I guess, in my view, before merchants and on a broad basis would be accepting those kinds of forms of payment. So in the meantime, we think the solution that we've already had in market for a couple of years is a very good option for those who maybe want to take advantage of stablecoin. We don't -- to be honest, when it comes to stablecoin, just since I brought it up, we don't think that's going to be really impactful to our business, at least in the near term just because of the markets we operate in, North America and Europe, and we're not huge in cross- border flows, we're probably less exposed to some of the initial use cases of stablecoin, but it is an area we're looking at investing and partnering. But for now, we feel like we do have a good solution for that space.