Jeff Ludwig
Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open
Yes, I mean, our -- we've talked about our commercial banking team now for several quarters that we've held that relatively flat actually might, from a total headcount be down a little, but the productivity, the pipeline management, we've put salesforce in this point, probably three or four years ago, and it's really -- it has matured, and the calling efforts, the follow-up on pipeline with -- from the President of bank down to RMs, I think we've done a really nice job of managing pipelines and accountability to pipelines. And so we've been able to keep headcount sort of down. And so we're not adding a lot of -- we're not adding a lot of people to the commercial team to get the additional growth. So, I think that's good. Now, over time, that's going to have to change, but right now that that's where we're at. And then it's looking -- the good thing about taking a pause -- the pause that we've taken on M&A the last couple of years is to really dig into vendors, dig into how we operate and it seems like quarter-in and quarter-out, we're finding, in some cases, bigger pieces, and then in other cases, little pieces here and there, add up over time that are allowing us to continue to grow revenue, at least now and hold expenses relatively flat. That can't -- right, that can't go on forever, but at this point, we're able to do that.