Yes. I think, Bert -- I mean, I think biotech is about building value and building relationships, number one and number two. Value you build by advancing your own clinical candidates to meaningful inflection points in generating data, which can make those products a compelling opportunity for physicians and patients. So we believe we're accomplishing that with -- certainly with MAT2203, and we look to aggressively push MAT2501 forward.
That being said, even with those 2 assets, sort of strategic collaborations on a global basis or in areas where our development and commercial expertise wouldn't come into bear can be important validating sort of transactions. Those relationships take time. We have gotten a lot of inbound interest there. And so we will explore those, especially outside the U.S.
But fundamentally, we believe the greatest value can be driven by pushing your own products forward. But because the LNC platform can be so broadly applied, it does make sense to continue to investigate collaborations like Genentech, especially in areas outside of what we're doing right now in infectious disease, and where we can rely on big pharma's expertise, certainly with maybe more innovative, cutting-edge or newer areas of medicine than we are exploring with our current small molecule products. But you don't want to actually go too fast. You want to be able to have the value catch up to the collaboration so that you can capture it.
But ultimately, we just want to continue to drive and deliver that across the board. But I'll also tell you, I mean, I noticed that Novo Nordisk paid $1.8 billion for Emisphere recently, which represents a 2.5x multiple on Emisphere's value. And Endpoints called it the "holy grail of oral drug delivery."
I think that the drug -- effective delivery of molecules, whether they be small molecules, oligonucleotides, proteins, peptides, continues to be a huge area of challenge. We're enthusiastic about exploring the opportunity that the LNC platform could provide in all of those areas. And a deal like Novo and Emisphere, I think, provides validation for this approach, and the reason to be excited as we continue to advance our own clinical candidates and expand our collaborations with companies like Genentech.