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Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 27, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Q4 2025 MasTec, Inc. Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. You will then hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Chris Mecray, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Chris Mecray

Management

Good morning, and thank you for joining us for MasTec, Inc.’s fourth quarter full year 2025 financial results conference call. Joining me today are Jose Mas, Chief Executive Officer, and Paul DiMarco, Chief Financial Officer. We have prepared slides to supplement our remarks, which are posted on MasTec, Inc.’s website under the Investors tab and through the webcast link. There is also a companion document with information and analytics on the quarter and a guide summary to assist in financial modeling. Please read the forward-looking disclaimer contained in the slides accompanying this call. During this call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding our plans and expectations about the future as of the date of this call. Because these statements are based on current assumptions and factors that involve risks and uncertainties, actual performance and results may differ materially from our forward-looking statements. Our Form 10-Ks include a detailed discussion of risks and uncertainties that may cause such differences. In today’s remarks, we will be discussing adjusted financial metrics reconciled in yesterday’s press release and supporting schedules. We may also use certain non-GAAP financial measures in this conference call. A reconciliation of any non-GAAP financial measures not reconciled in these comments to the most comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our earnings press release, slides, or companion documents. I will now turn the call over to Jose Mas. Good morning, and welcome to MasTec, Inc.’s fourth quarter earnings call. First, some quarterly and full year highlights.

Jose Mas

Management

Revenue for the quarter was just shy of $4 billion, a 16% year-over-year increase, bringing the full year to $14.3 billion, also a 16% increase for 2025 and a new record high. Adjusted EBITDA was $338 million in the fourth quarter, a 25% year-over-year increase, which was an acceleration from the 20% growth in the third quarter. We exceeded guidance with strong operating execution across segments. Full year EBITDA of $1.15 billion was an increase of 14% from the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share was $2.07, a 44% increase versus $1.44 in the prior year quarter. In summary, we exceeded guidance again in revenue, EBITDA, and EPS, highlighting another strong execution quarter and year for MasTec, Inc. This strong result is in part a testament to the scale and diversification MasTec, Inc. has achieved over time, and we are excited about our outlook for 2026 and beyond given the clear long-term positive market conditions across all of the end markets we serve. While I am proud of our financial results, I would like to highlight a few positive developments both in the fourth quarter and in early 2026. First, it is important to highlight our significant backlog growth. On a full year basis, backlog was up over $4.5 billion, a 33% annual increase. Sequentially, backlog was up over $2 billion, representing a 1.6 times book-to-bill. More importantly, we see our business and the opportunities in front of us accelerating. As impressive as the total number is to me, I am more excited about the backlog mix. While every segment was up considerably year over year, our pipeline segment saw backlog slightly drop sequentially. Yet, I would argue that our visibility in that segment is as good as it has ever been. While we expect double-digit growth in 2026 in…

Operator

Operator

Press 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press 1-1 again. And our first question will come from Julien Dumoulin-Smith of Jefferies.

Brian Russell

Analyst

Yeah. Hi. Good morning. It is Brian Russell on for Julien. Good morning. Good morning. Hey. I was just wondering if you could elaborate on the new language on Power Delivery segment of approaching double-digit margins. What initiatives are ongoing to get there? Is it enhanced MSA or project work, or is it just a contribution of these higher margin transmission projects?

Paul DiMarco

Analyst

We have been consistent that we think the goal for our Power Delivery segment is double-digit margins. So this is just a continued progress towards that. There has been a lot of focus on execution of the base business, which, as I mentioned, is performing well. And then we had some starts and stops last year that obviously caused some inefficiency and eroded some of the margin appreciation that is achievable. So we are not foreseeing those this year. We think the base business is performing well. I think we will get operating leverage as some of the larger projects begin to materialize in a more meaningful way. And we think it is the natural step towards our stated goal of consistent double-digit margins for the segment.

Brian Russell

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then just second on CE&I and the turnkey data center project. Could you elaborate? You mentioned $1 billion, but over what time frame? And, you know, who is kind of the customer, and is this the first of many to come?

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. Sure. So a couple things. The $1 billion was not all the turnkey jobs. So we have been doing a lot of other data center work. Right? So we have really focused on our civil power infrastructure businesses that have been doing data center work for years. So, you know, hundreds of millions of the billion were related to that. Obviously, the turnkey site helped move that. We are not in a position to be able to disclose much details around the project or the customer. We expect that job to be concluded in 2027. So between 2026 and 2027, those revenues will be earned. And we do think it will, you know, as the job progresses, we think there is tremendous opportunity for us to continue to grow on that type of business, and we think the market for that right now is incredibly strong.

Brian Russell

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be coming from the line of Andrew Kaplowitz of Citi. Andrew, your line is open.

Andrew Kaplowitz

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Morning, Jose, so it seems like you are still as or more confident regarding your pipeline business. But, obviously, as you said, going to be more book and burn moving forward. So just did you see any delays in terms of project timing versus what you have been thinking? And then on the margin side, given the second half 2025 performance in pipeline and the higher estimated revenue in 2026, is not mid-teens margins for 2026 conservative? You know, if the market kind of develops as you think?

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. I will start with the second part of the question. Right? I think we have always guided mid-teens in our pipeline business. I think that is the appropriate level to come out with the guide. I think our objective is to beat that. I think historically, we have outperformed that and hopefully, the opportunity is there to do it again. As it relates to revenue with pipeline, I would argue that the our visibility is actually improving. So to me, the number of opportunities, the number of verbal awards, the number of negotiations that we are in the middle of, I think every quarter that passes, our confidence just grows in our ability to continue to grow that business and see a really much longer term of elevated levels than we probably initially expected.

Andrew Kaplowitz

Analyst

It is helpful then. Obviously, you are still putting out strong growth in Communications and expect to do so in 2026. When you think about breaking down that growth between sort of traditional fiber to the home, do you have anything in BEADs for 2026? And, you know, how should we be thinking about that fiber to the data center opportunity or middle mile broadband? Is that also getting to be bigger than you expected? Is that in 2026 at all?

Jose Mas

Management

The short answer is yes. Right? I think, you know, breaking it down we do not have tons of BEADs built into 2026. I think BEADs, I think what we are seeing there is we are becoming more bullish on BEADs. I think BEADs is going to be much larger than we had originally anticipated, and the opportunity is going to be larger for us. But I think that will predominantly be 2027. One of the opportunities that we have is some of that stuff does push into 2026. That could be very constructive to the business. But, you know, look, we are seeing every one of our customers pursue multiple business strategies. Obviously, everything that is happening around data centers and connectivity to data centers is an important driver for that. We are getting our share of that, and we think that the market is growing substantially for that as well. So very broad-based opportunities. We had an incredible year of growth in Q2 2025. We are assuming a more moderate growth profile in 2026. But, you know, we were surprised in Q4 with the level of activity. I think revenues were about 20% higher than what we guided for Q4. So, you know, got a lot of good opportunity to outperform in 2026.

Andrew Kaplowitz

Analyst

Thanks, Jose.

Jose Mas

Management

Thanks, Andy. Yeah.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will be coming from the line of Jamie Cook of Truist Securities. Your line is open, Jamie.

Jamie Cook

Analyst

Hi, good morning, and congratulations on multiple fronts. I guess two questions for you, Jose. The first question is just the visibility that you have beyond the eighteen-month backlog that you report. You know, I am just trying to understand how great that is and which segments do you have above-average visibility. And then I guess my second question, I think on the call you mentioned that you saw the pipeline business being able to achieve or exceed prior peak, which I think was $3.5 billion. Under what time frame do you think that would be reasonable? Thank you.

Jose Mas

Management

Sure. Thank you, Jamie. So a couple things. I would say, you know, maybe with the last part of the question first, we have talked about hitting historical highs in pipeline revenue as early as 2027, so in the near term. Again, we see that business shaping up incredibly well. When we think about backlog in general, right, I think Paul alluded on his prepared remarks about the $4 billion of notice to proceeds that we have in renewables that are not in backlog. Right? So we actually have more in LNTPs than we do in actual backlog, which is a remarkable statistic. And I think that visibility is amazing. Right? I think even within stated backlog, we have projects. I think we won our largest project ever in the renewables business at the end of last year. Only a portion of that project is in backlog, only the eighteen-month portion of it. When we think about Comms and, you know, what we are currently seeing in BEADs and the potential there, I think it is going to lead to significant backlog expansion as we think about 2026. In Power Delivery, the level of transmission jobs that we are seeing and the demand for transmission is just off the charts, which I think is going to also lead to some pretty sizable increases in backlog as the year progresses. So overall, when we look at all the segments, we are just really optimistic again, not just about 2026, but what the future holds.

Jamie Cook

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be coming from the line of Philip Shen of Roth Capital Partners. Your line is open, Philip.

Philip Shen

Analyst

Hey, guys. Congrats on the great results here. Wanted to talk about Greenlink and to get a little bit more color there. Jose, could you share, like, the relief that you got, was that all that you are looking for? Meaning, this project is a full go now, or are there other milestones that we should be thinking about in terms of permitting relief or milestones in general? Thanks.

Jose Mas

Management

Sure. So on Greenlink, in 2025, obviously the first portion that we really started on ended up being delayed with permitting. Those permits have been fully cleared. So the beauty of that is we get to go back to work on that initial phase that we were supposed to start. It is a long-term job, so not all permits are in. So there are some permits for the latter part of the jobs that still have to come in. I think the level of confidence around those, especially with clearing this issue, has increased significantly. So we feel really good about the progress on that job, what we think needs to happen for us to ultimately complete that on time. And I think this is just, again, it happened a little bit earlier than we thought in the year, so we are excited about it. And I think it bodes really well for, again, not just 2026, but how that job is going to set up for the next few years.

Philip Shen

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Jose. And then back on the data center job, of the billion dollars, how much do you think you guys self-perform versus outsource? And then just as a follow-up, you know, how much more is there behind this? I know you may have touched upon this a little bit earlier, but do you think we could see more of these billion-dollar general contractor jobs later this year, or do you think we have to wait till next year? Thanks.

Jose Mas

Management

Yes, so a couple of things. I would say that, again, you take the $1 billion, you break it out between what we have historically done, which is a couple of hundred million dollars. I would say all of that is self-perform, which is the work that we have been doing. When you look at the balance of that on this particular project, we were brought in kind of late where a lot of the actual work functions had been selected with different contractors, so we kind of took them over. So our ability to self-perform on this first project was somewhat limited. Again, we think, you know, one of the beauties of this is we think we have got a huge competitive advantage and we are one of the very few contractors in the U.S. that has significant experience in construction management and civil and power and telecom and maintenance and all of the attributes that you need to make up a data center job. So I think that, you know, customers are beginning to see that. We are getting a lot of opportunities related to full turnkey work with the ability to self-perform, which really changes the margin profile of those jobs on a go-forward basis. I think we are going to responsibly grow into it. This is hopefully the first of many. And we do expect further wins in 2026.

Philip Shen

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Jose.

Jose Mas

Management

Thanks, Phil. One moment for our next question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be coming from Sangita Jain of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Sangita Jain

Analyst

Can I ask a question on the large transmission project that you booked in the fourth quarter? Can you help us with some details on how long you think that project will take to burn? I know for Greenlink that target was four years. I am just trying to see if it is a similar duration or shorter.

Jose Mas

Management

Hi, Sangita. So it is a smaller project. It will be a shorter duration. It starts, you know, probably the second part of the summer in this year, and it will probably go on for about two years.

Sangita Jain

Analyst

Got it. Helpful. And then on a broader level, can I just ask about margins? Your revenue growth has obviously been very strong. Margins are expanding, but they are kind of lagging your expectations. So I am wondering if there is a structural barrier that prevents operating leverage from coming through. If it is labor productivity or I do not want to prejudge. I want to, but I would love some color from you.

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. Look. We have talked a lot about it during the year. I think, which I think is one of the positives as well, right, is that most of our growth in 2025 was organic. And when you grow organically, it takes a lot to open new offices, to build, to grow your workforce base, to invest in not just working capital, but in the equipment necessary to grow. So, you know, we think we put up, you know, mid-teens growth rate both for 2025 and even on an organic basis what we expect 2026. Even if you back out the acquisitions in 2026, we are expecting, you know, mid-teens organic growth in our business. Those create challenges. They create challenges to optimize margins in a period. I think as we get bigger and we see some of those initial businesses start to mature, which we are already seeing, margins kind of take care of themselves. So we are very bullish about our ability to improve our margins in things like telecom, which, quite frankly, you know, again, we beat fourth quarter revenue by 20% versus our guidance, which is just, again, another remarkable number, but that slightly impacted margins negatively. Right? When we look at this year with some of the things that we were expecting to happen on Greenlink and did not come through, it slightly impacted the margin capabilities we had in that business. But when you look at 2026 guidance for both of those, you know, strong growth years from a margin perspective in both of those. Our CE&I, right, I think is progressing incredibly well. We were up 110 basis points on a year-over-year basis from 2024 to 2025. If you take the base business, we are expecting further margin gains in 2026, but it…

Sangita Jain

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you, Jose. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be coming from the line of Steven Fisher of UBS. Your line is open.

Steven Fisher

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning and congrats on a successful 2025. And just to follow up on Sangita’s question there, but keep it more specifically focused to the Communications segment. Could you just give a little bit more detail on the better margin expectations you have there? I know you mentioned about certain elements of the business that are maturing. Can you talk about which aspects of the Comms opportunities are seeing that maturing? Is that overpull work? Or is it the BEAD work? Or, I guess you say you do not have a lot in there. But what are the key initiatives that you are talking about that could really help margins? And what are you doing with the hiring in the Comms business? Because it seems like maybe some of the absorption there is maybe a bit of a drag.

Jose Mas

Management

Yes, Steve. I would push back a little bit. Right? Because I would say if we look at Comms in 2025, the business was up on a full year basis. We were up 32% in revenue, organically. The most mature business in MasTec, Inc., the longest business in MasTec, Inc., was up 32% organically in revenue in 2025. And margins improved 60 basis points year over year on 32% growth. Now we would have liked to have seen margins improve more, no question about it. But we still saw improvement. When you look at 2026 guidance versus where we ended up in 2025, we have got just shy of a 100 basis point improvement in that business yet again, on what will be strong growth. So, you know, I would argue that we have done a really good job of managing the growth and improving margins along the way. But this is where we have made significant investment, opened new offices, and it takes time for some of those businesses to mature. This is why we are starting to see the maturity of those businesses. We are starting to see the improvement of those margins, which on a year-over-year basis, margins improved 60 basis points. Yes, fourth quarter was a little lighter than we expected, but, again, we beat revenue expectations there by 20% versus what we guided. So I think we are well on our way. I think the business mix is perfect. I think, you know, we have got, again, tremendous opportunities. And, by the way, we talked about BEADs being a huge opportunity going forward. I think we see that in 2027. I think we have yet another really, really strong growth year in 2027, probably much stronger than 2026 because of what is going to happen in BEADs. But we are super focused on margin appreciation there. I think we delivered some of that in 2025, and we will deliver more of that in 2026.

Steven Fisher

Analyst

Okay. That is fair. And then just in terms of the overall 2026 plan and how it is covered in backlog, obviously, you had some really good backlog growth here. Just curious, how well covered do you think on your 2026 plan you are covered at the moment? Where do you think you still need to see more bookings? I know we have talked about on the Pipeline business, it is sort of closer to the burn when you book it, but just kind of what still has to happen to deliver the plan?

Jose Mas

Management

I mean, when we look back for, you know, as far back as I can remember, I do not think we have ever been in a better position going into a year based on revenue guidance versus where we stand with backlog. So I would argue that this is, you know, I am not going to use the word conservative, but I think this is one of the best big plans that we have got relative to what our revenue expectations are with what we currently have in hand.

Steven Fisher

Analyst

Sounds good. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will be coming from the line of Justin Hauke of Baird. Your line is open.

Justin Hauke

Analyst

Oh, great. I have got one more on the margin questions. I guess, to add the mix. But, you know, overall, you are calling for 50 basis points of margin expansion. I guess I was just curious. I mean, you are going to tell me all your segments are, you know, going to see expansion this year. But is there anything, you know, in particular, you know, mix-wise, you would say, you know, some higher and some lower, you know, given the moving pieces, maybe the construction management stuff on the data center work that you said, you know, lower margin. Anything to kind of help think about, you know, the trajectory in 2026 with the segments. Thanks.

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. So again, I mean, we expect, you know, Comms and Power Delivery to be up on a year-over-year basis from a margin. I think we have been very specific as to what the, you know, what the opportunities are in 2026 versus what it was in 2025. The Pipeline business is obviously growing. Again, we have a step change function there in 2027 from a revenue perspective. So while margins will be good in 2025, they will not be optimal because we will be making a lot of investments—oh, I am sorry—in 2026 we will be making a lot of investments into what is coming in 2027. So that is kind of why we have guided to where we have guided. Then when we think about, you know, Clean Energy and Infrastructure, I mean, we are not, that is probably the one business where we are not calling out, you know, margin appreciation on a year-over-year basis. It is more flattish. While the base business is improving, the construction management business will be a drag on that relative to the total margins of the segment. So I think, you know, keeping margins there flattish is a good story with the opportunity of, you know, further growing our self-perform opportunities around that new business and then enhancing through that. So I think that is how 2026 is going to shake out.

Justin Hauke

Analyst

Yep. Perfect. No. That is helpful. Second one, pretty easy one here, but I just want to clarify. In the guidance, there is a big uptick in the non-interest. I assume that is the water/wastewater acquisition you did post quarter, but I just wanted to clarify that there was not anything else that was driving that.

Paul DiMarco

Analyst

That is the change for 2026. Yes.

Justin Hauke

Analyst

Perfect. Thanks.

Jose Mas

Management

Thank you, Justin. One moment for our next question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be coming from Ati Modak of Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Ati Modak

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Jose, can you talk about the vision you have with these acquisitions, the NV2A, how that integrates into the data center market? And then the decision to step into water infrastructure, what is your vision with that? You know, how big is it today? How big could it get? And should we expect you to remain acquisitive in these areas?

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. So let us start with NV2A. Well known to us. They were our partner on a big project we currently have. You know, it was an opportunity that presented itself where one of the partners was interested in selling, and that started a dialogue where we ended up deciding to acquire the entire business. Tremendous opportunities on the current projects we have with the size of what those projects will be in the future. That in and of itself made an enormous amount of sense for us to pursue those acquisitions. And then I think as that develops, you know, obviously, some of these other construction management opportunities presented themselves, and we think they have incredible depth and strength and bring a lot to the table that are going to help us there as well. So we think fundamentally, just based on their historical business, it was a great deal. And when you look at all the complements that we get in addition to that, we think it is going to be a fantastic deal for MasTec, Inc. On the water side, look, we think water is a theme that is going to grow like crazy. I think we are going to have all kinds of issues this year with, you know, some of the snow patterns and where they fell and where, you know, there are going to be a lot of markets that are going to have water issues. A lot of what we are seeing around data centers across the country are demanding more water use, which is forcing municipalities to rethink how they are providing water and the revenue opportunity for them to provide water into new projects. When we look at their business, they have had tremendous growth. But, quite frankly, when you look at their outlook and the opportunities that they are chasing, their growth potential is probably as good or better than anything else we have in all of MasTec, Inc. And we are going to support them and help them achieve that, and we are super excited. We think it is a great management team that has built a great company. And we are really looking forward to supporting them. I think that, you know, again, we think it is a great theme. As the theme develops, as we get a better understanding of that market, I think there are going to be a lot more opportunities there to grow off of.

Ati Modak

Analyst

Very helpful, Jose. And then what would you highlight in terms of the expectations we should have with the Investor Day in May?

Jose Mas

Management

Look. We are excited to do it. We have not done one in a really long time. I think we are going to talk a lot more about, you know, longer-term outlooks, maybe longer-term targets relative to what we do on these calls. So, you know, we are excited to do that. You are going to get an opportunity to meet a significant portion of our management team and really understand, you know, how we are thinking about the mid and long term as a business.

Ati Modak

Analyst

Awesome. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will be coming from Manish Samaya of Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open, Manish.

Manish Samaya

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Jose, first question for you. You gave us your margin outlook for 2026. And I was wondering, you know, when you look at your daily, weekly dashboard, what are some of the things that you are looking at by segment to ensure that everything is on track?

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. Look. At the end of the day, our business is not that complicated. Right? Everything starts at a field level. It starts with a widget that is getting installed. And our ability to enhance the productivity of those widgets is what really changes profitability as an entity. So, you know, how we measure and how we incent at that level is the most important thing that we do as a company. I think, you know, Paul has talked a lot about a lot of the technological advancements that we are trying to make to further provide better information, more real-time information, which I think makes a big difference. But, you know, that is our team’s focus every single day. And I think that, again, you know, we have got a lot of balls in the air. We are growing very rapidly from a top-line perspective, but we cannot take our eye off what, you know, makes us money each and every single day. And I think our team is doing a great job of being focused on that and are really trying to improve that on a day-to-day basis.

Manish Samaya

Analyst

Second question for you and Paul. Paul, maybe if you can just help us bridge the operating cash flow from 2025 to 2026. And then, Jose, obviously, you are guiding to leverage in the low 1s. How should we think about capital allocation between, obviously, tuck-in acquisitions, as well as share buybacks and other initiatives you might have?

Paul DiMarco

Analyst

Yeah. So on the operating cash flow question, Manish, it is really just going to follow the cadence of revenue growth. And we expect to have, as I mentioned, you know, sequential growth Q2 and Q3 followed by a fall-off in Q4. We are not assuming any major change in DSO from year end at 65 days for 2025. And so it is just the expectation around working capital investment relative to the revenue generation. And the year-over-year impact really from Q4 2025 to Q4 2026 is, you know, a big piece of that. So there is not a major change in our expectations from where we finished the year. It is just about timing of current expectations of revenue timing that drives the $1 billion cash flow from operations. And, again, it is consistent with what we have stated for a long time, which is that we think we can do 70% EBITDA conversion to operating cash flow consistently. You know, this year, the growth, the timing of the growth, put a little bit of headwind on that, and we think it normalizes in 2026.

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. Maybe to the second part of the question, you know, I would say, look, first and foremost, we are focused on taking advantage of the organic growth opportunities in front of us and investing in those. I think that when we think about, you know, really adding to the platform of MasTec, Inc. and bringing in partners, there is tremendous opportunity. Right? I think there is so much demand in our industry today that our ability to meet it enhances with looking at M&A and, you know, I think we are going to continue to do that. I think we took a period of a couple of years post some very large acquisition for us in Infrastructure and Energies—Henkels & McCoy and IEA—where, you know, a lot of our focus was consumed on the integration of those acquisitions. I think that is well past us. I think we have demonstrated that. And I think that, you know, we are in a position today where we can take that on and really make that additive to MasTec, Inc. So if anything, I think you will see us be more acquisitive rather than less, and for sure more than the last couple years. It has been part of our story since inception and something that, you know, you will probably see us do more regularly than you have in the last couple of years.

Manish Samaya

Analyst

Any specific segment, Jose, as far as tuck-ins?

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. Look. Again, I think there are areas of every segment that we are in that we think make sense for us. So it is measuring the opportunity, quite frankly, versus being opportunistic in those. So, you know, the values are also high. Right? People’s expectations of values have increased significantly. So finding the right balance between those two is what we are going to try to achieve in MasTec, Inc.

Manish Samaya

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be coming from Joseph Osha of Guggenheim Partners. Your line is open. I am sorry. Guggenheim Partners.

Joseph Osha

Analyst

Hello. Can you hear me?

Operator

Operator

Yes. We can hear you.

Joseph Osha

Analyst

Yep. Yeah. Hey. Good morning. Thanks. Two questions. Following a little bit on some previous ones, looking at the data center opportunity in particular, I am wondering if there are any particular skill sets or capabilities you feel like you might want to fill in? And then looking at Communications, there has been some wireless infrastructure rip and replace in that segment in the past. I am wondering how much of that is there going forward, or whether we are mostly looking at FTTH and obviously BEAD in 2027. Thank you.

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. So a couple of things. On the data center side, obviously, we do not have the functions today to self-perform everything. But I think that we have the ability to self-perform a lot, more than most, I think, again, gives us a tremendous advantage. To the extent that the opportunity is there to consider doing more there, we would. On the wireless side, you know, I think we are in the midst of that rip and replace for our large customer. I think we are going to see a lot more deployment starting in 2027 relative to new spectrum, which is going to help that industry considerably. So we are, you know, we are still as excited about wireless as we have always been.

Joseph Osha

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will be coming from Brian Brophy of Stifel. Your line is open, Brian.

Brian Daniel Brophy

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for squeezing me in here. I guess I will just go with a quick one. CapEx is notably lower than a year ago. Can you talk about the drivers there? Or the 2026 expectation, excuse me, is notably lower than a year ago.

Paul DiMarco

Analyst

Yeah. I mean, I think it is just a function of where the growth is coming from. We talked about investing a lot in Pipeline ahead of the cycle. A lot of the jobs we are working on right now kicked off in the back half of 2025 and current equipment related to those. Clean Energy segment, where we are seeing the highest growth in 2026, is the least capital intensive. So some of it is just a function of that. You know, we are obviously prepared to continue to invest, and that is our view today. To the extent that project needs or demand opportunities require more CapEx, we have got the flex to do it.

Brian Daniel Brophy

Analyst

Appreciate it. I will pass it on.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be coming from the line of Mark Strouse of JPMorgan. Your line is open, Mark.

Mark Strouse

Analyst

Yes. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in here. Maybe just on that last point on renewables. Clearly, you are seeing very strong growth. Just curious, can you talk about your market share, your win rates? Is this a function of kind of just the number of opportunities increasing? Or do you think kind of a function of projects getting bigger and more complex that you are taking share as well? Thank you.

Jose Mas

Management

I think it is a little bit all of the above. Again, coming off of the IEA acquisition, we took a lot of time to really focus our efforts around going after customers that we thought we could build meaningful relationships with that would matter over time, and I think we have done that. You know, we have got alliance agreements now with what we think are some of the best developers in the business that have, you know, long-term plans that are very solid, and our ability to have integrated within their systems and really build an expectation of both our labor and their work over a long period of time gives us tremendous visibility. So I think that has helped us. Right? I think today we are a top-tier contractor for both wind and solar. And we are very bullish about the long term of that business. Obviously, at times, it becomes very political. We think there is tremendous visibility through 2030. And we think that as we see the prices and what some of the new generation is pricing at, we actually think that renewables are going to be competitive on a price basis long after 2030. So we think it is a great market. We think it is a market that has got tremendous potential and, again, as Paul alluded to earlier, we have got, you know, a ton of what we would call shadow backlog, which is backlog we know we are going to convert. So, you know, we actually think backlog in that business could increase in 2026.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will be coming from the line of Liam Burke of B. Riley Securities. Your line is open.

Liam Dalton Burke

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, Jose.

Jose Mas

Management

Good morning, Liam.

Liam Dalton Burke

Analyst

Jose, your projects have become larger and more complex. Are you seeing less competition and better, more favorable terms as you renegotiate or enter into some project agreements?

Jose Mas

Management

Well, I think the whole industry is. Right? Customers understand the challenges that they face relative to labor. I think, you know, obviously, we have always said we think terms improve before pricing does, and I think we have seen terms improve considerably over the last few years. And I expect that to continue and, you know, as we are all dealing with the demand, I think pricing is also getting better. So I think we are in a good place as an industry.

Liam Dalton Burke

Analyst

Great. Thank you. And really quickly, you highlighted middle mile activity in the telecom segment. Is that data driven, or what is driving that activity?

Jose Mas

Management

Yeah. Look. I think our customers are looking to grow. Our customers are looking for all the opportunities in front of them. So some of it is data center driven. Some of it is onshoring driven. There is, you know, lots of demand for connectivity. And to the extent that our customers win that demand, it requires large infrastructure buildouts for them, and that is kind of what we are talking about.

Liam Dalton Burke

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Jose. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our last question will be coming from Maheep Mandloi of Mizuho. Your line is open, Maheep.

Maheep Mandloi

Analyst

Hey. Thanks for squeezing me in. Congratulations on the quarter here. Maybe just two quick ones. First, just on Communications. Can you maybe guide how much of that would be exposed to office buildings or commercial customers? And secondly, on M&A, it kind of laid out pretty well on previous questions here. But just curious if you have any thoughts on spending some of the equipment yourself which might be in tight supply in the market here?

Jose Mas

Management

Yes. So relative to office buildings and commercial buildings, obviously, they are customers of our customers. So I think, you know, I do not think that has been a key driver of the business. I do not think there have been large expansions of either of those across the country over the last couple years. But, obviously, connectivity is important for everybody and to the extent that anybody needs connectivity, it is a potential customer for our customers. From an M&A perspective, look. We have not looked at getting into manufacturing. We think, you know, our business has been strong. We have really strong demand and really good partners that can support us in that. So we have not seen the need to do that.

Maheep Mandloi

Analyst

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And I would now like to turn the conference back to Chris Mecray for closing remarks.

Chris Mecray

Management

All right. Thank you, everybody. That concludes today’s call. Thanks for participating. And as a reminder, visit our Investor website for a replay and transcript, which will be posted when available. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

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