Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Murphy USA Third Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Later, we will conduct the question-and-answer session and instruction will be given at time. As a reminder, today’s conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce you host for today's conference Mr. Christian Pikul, Director of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

Thank you, Liz. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining us today. With me are Andrew Clyde, President and Chief Executive Officer; Mindy West, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Donny Smith, Vice President and Controller. After some opening comments from Andrew, Mindy will provide an overview of the financial results at which point Andrew will provide a update to our annual guidance and then we’ll open up the call to Q&A. Please keep in mind that some of the comments made during this call, including the Q&A portion, will be considered forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. As such, no assurances can be given that these events will occur or that these projections will be attained. A variety of factors exist that may cause actual results to differ. For further discussion of risk factors, please see the latest Murphy USA Forms 10-K, 10-Q, 8-K and other recent SEC filings. Murphy USA takes no duty to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. During today’s call, we may also provide certain performance measures that do not conform to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles or GAAP. We have provided schedules to reconcile these non-GAAP measures with the reported results on a GAAP basis as part of our earnings release which can be found on the Investors section of our website. With that, I will turn the call over to Andrew.

Thank you, Christian. Good morning and welcome to our third quarter 2016 conference call. We appreciate your interest during this busy earnings season and I know your time is important. So I’ll jump in and get started. We reported net income from continuing operations of $45.5 million or $1.16 per diluted share versus $60 million in the $1.41 per share in the third quarter of last year. The third quarter certainly have some unique challenges and I will address those on the call. That said year-to-date performance remains very strong versus prior year. In keeping with this year's tradition of reviewing performance through the lens of our simple formula for value creation featured in our investor presentations. I will continue by highlighting our progress against the key elements of this formula. Additionally, we will review an update our 2016 annual guidance as we are close to completing the year. Our first point is around organic growth and during the third quarter we opened 21 new stores bringing our total store count to 1,364 locations. In addition we successfully completed our 10 store raze and rebuilds program during the quarter. Converting three additional high performing Kiosks locations into 1,200 square foot stores. Although it is early initial results suggest very attractive returns from this program with fuel volumes exceeding prior levels and merchandise categories ramping up nicely. We are currently under construction on 28 new sites and expect to end the year with approximately 1,400 locations which translates into roughly 5% unit growth. In contrast to the past two years we are prepared to enter 2017 with more momentum as up to eight Murphy Express sites are slated to open late in the first quarter of 2017. During November we expect to complete the installation of 180 super-coolers and wrap up…

Thank you, Andrew, and good morning, everyone. Revenue for the quarter totaled $3.04 billion and 10% decrease from the $3.38 billion results a year ago. This decrease in revenues was caused primarily by lower fuel prices which average the $1.98 this quarter versus $2.26 in the same period last year. Adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization or EBITDA was $105.3 million versus $128.5 million largely attributable to lower retail fuel margins and volumes as Andrew discussed partially offset by higher merchandise margins. Total debt on the balance sheet as of September 30 is $679 million broken out as follows. Long-term debt of $639 million consisting of $489 million of our 6% net due 2023 and $150 million remaining on our $200 million term loan. Short-term debt represents the $40 million of expected amortization under the term loan which sits in current liabilities on the balance sheet. Our ABL facility is capped at $450 million and is subject to a periodic borrowing base determination, which currently limit us to $192 million. And at the present time that facility remains undrawn. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $207 million all unrestricted balances at September the 30th which results in net debt at quarter end of approximately $472 million. As Andrew also said, during the quarter, we repurchased 607,000 common shares for $45 million at an average price of about $74.50 per share under the previously announced program of up to $500 million to be completed by the end of next year. With the third quarter purchases, this brings our total year-to-date spend on share repurchases to $212 million or roughly 3.25 million shares at an average price of $65. Capital expenditures for the quarter were $82 million, majority of which was for retail growth. We expect our full-year CapEx to still be in the range of our previous guidance of $250 million to $300 million. That concludes the financial update. I will now turn it back over to Andrew.

Thank you, Mindy. I would like to now revisit our annual 2016 guidance which we announced in February of this year and we will start with fuel. Our annual fuel volumes are projected to come in at the low end of our guidance range of 4.2 billion to 4.4 billion gallons. On an average per store month basis retail fuel gallons will fall short of our guidance range of 265,000 to 270,000 gallons due to several factors. First, as crude prices rebounded over the year we saw fewer periods of sharply falling prices where we typically gain volume in excess product inventory from high refinery utilization further dampen volatility on the downside. Additionally, during periods of lower price separation and rising price environments, we optimize our pricing strategy to remain at or below the lowest retail price in our markets, but do not sacrifice incremental margin to drive volume growth, while this strategy will result in some volume erosion it increases our bottom line profits during those periods. And as we said before a weak Midwest geographies in the 2015 build class continue to negatively impact our network volumes as evidence when comparing to same-store sales. And last, specific in identifiable external events such as flooding in Louisiana over the summer the Colonial Pipeline outage and the after effects of Hurricane Matthew in the Carolinas this quarter have all contributed to incremental volume loss. Retail margins are also expected to fall just below our guidance of $12.25 to $13.25 per gallon. While we expect to exceed the 25 basis points of improvements from supply, logistics and pricing optimization the rising price market structure more than offset the impact from these initiatives. That said, our 2017 outlook will be stronger as we sustain these improvement benefits in what we would forecast…

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Bonnie Herzog with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Good morning. Hi, Andrew.

Good morning, Bonnie.

I guess on my first question I was hoping you could drill down just a little bit further and try and help us quantify the impact on your earnings from the Colonial pipeline shutdown during the quarter. And then, is there a way for you to share with us how much of your stores or how well your stores performed in the areas that weren't impacted versus the stores that were impacted? Just trying to get a sense of the magnitude maybe touch on merch sales for instance?

Yes, so in terms of the impact - is both volume and margin and one thing I would know is that any time you have a disruption in the supply chain like this is the impact as a function of several things. First of all how prepared were you in terms of where you long or short inventory during the period right before it happened. Second how long is the duration of the incident? Third, what's the market structure at that period why is this happening. Our margins low when you're in the midst of a restoration or a margin higher, maybe coming off a period of falling margins. With various state of emergency, pricing regulations that go into effect. There's a lot of things that go into your ability to be able to respond to that. Given the duration was 12 days or more and it took even a month for premium product to get back to normal levels. We certainly had outages, we haven’t report the number of outages, many of them were brief. And I think one of the things that helps Murphy USA is by being a shipper having a proprietary supply chain buying bulk being able to get barrels in the Plantation pipeline, shipping out of our proprietary terminals like Jonesboro that are fed from other pipeline systems and our use of common carrier trucking companies to be able to bring product in, we're able to adapt and respond. Given margins very tight at the beginning of that process and the duration was long. We certainly had both volume and margin impact. Compared to the other regions, we talked about the Midwest and some of the impact there around the weaker Midwest new stores that were opened in 2015. We also see more pressure there…

That was a lot of good color and I appreciate that. But then you said something early on about the importance of inventory when the first shutdown happened. So could you help us understand with the unfortunate accident that occurred earlier this week where you're at and just I guess I'm assuming there will be another shutdown and do you have any sense of how prolonged that could be.

My understanding is they're working really, really hard to get the affected line up and running by this weekend potentially Saturday. The other line, my understanding is already back up and running. We were long going into this environment and margins had already restored. So we're in a completely different scenario against the factors that I described. We expected to be shorter in duration and not to have the same effect. But certainly we've been challenged if you add Matthew to the equation earlier in the quarter. I don't like to talk about weather but it's kind of perfect storm of events and you had a rise in crude prices in that. We've always said it was and if that was going to happen but when and from a comp standpoint it's always unfortunate when it happens versus a period where prices were falling steeply. But we all knew sooner or later crude prices would have to rebound, so dispositions us now for normal volatility at higher price levels.

Yes. I mean there is just seems like there's a lot of moving parts. May be my final question is, I’m just trying to get a sense from you because there's so much happening in different parts of the country that's impacting your stores. But could you give us a sense of what your view is of the health of the consumer. We’re hearing some pressures on the traffic but maybe it's more weather related or some other issues. But just trying to get a sense from you how you think the consumer is thing right now that's maybe number one. And then number two we have seen the up training or premitivation trend and I'm just getting the sense that that is softening a bit and love to hear from your perspective what you're seeing?

Sure. I think on the last point around sort of the up trading premiumisation. I think early on, we felt it was as much driven by a little healthier pocketbook and that was actually driving it. I think what we continue to see though is more manufacture incentives on multi-pack discounts for the premium products. And so in our view it’s coming less from just the consumer spending more because they have it and more due to the manufacturer pricing the premium products down closer to some of the second and third tier products. So it is flattening off some, we're still seeing some improvement, but we think the driver is more discount driven on the high end brands as opposed to just the consumer side. In terms of the consumer in general and in my perspective and our kind of economic view is that as long as we're in this 1% to 2% GDP economy, they continue to be hard hit. We are an open enrollment and so people are getting bills in the mail boxes that were larger than they expected. And so we continue to see pressures especially on the consumer that shops at our store in the super centers behind them. And so, I think demand we got the most recent numbers we may have had a record June in terms of fuel demand, but it does look like it is trending down in terms of year-on-year volume increases versus what we saw over the last two years.

Okay. Really helpful. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bienvenu with Stephens. Your line is now open.

Thanks. Good morning. So we obviously whiffed on forecasting on the PS&W piece of the business. And Andrew, you called out the spot/rack differential becoming more negative because of high RIN prices. While RIN prices were higher in 3Q than we've seen in quarters past, did wholesalers become irrationally more competitive at the rack? Or is just this just the interplay that you've highlighted in the past that's inherent between higher RIN prices and wholesale fuel gross profit?

It's what we've talked about in the past, Ben. I'm going to give you a couple of numbers. The RIN’s in this quarter were $48 million in our transfer to retail that spot-to-rack transfer price was negative $32 million, so an $18 million differential. Last year, same quarter $20 million in RIM sales transferred to retail was $1.6 million all the controllables all together. I mean it’s essentially the same number, right. The uncontrollable, the timing differences, the inventory variances were much smaller this year because we had a flatter rising price environment. Last year it was negative $29 million because we're in a steeply falling price environment. But if you just take the two things that are independent of the price movement that impacts costs of good sold, inventory calculations et cetera. The net differentials within a couple of million bucks, right.

Yes, that's really helpful. Secondarily, on the RIN generation that we follow in the quarter, it looks like -- from what we analyzed, it looks like we saw the number of gallons that you are able to flash-blend tick down sequentially. And I think we've seen that seasonality in the past. But I'm curious if the Colonial pipeline outage forced you to buy more local product versus bulk, and maybe that limited your ability to capture RINs. Or is our analysis wrong there?

No I think the bulk proprietary sales has generally been trending up, so you would have had a little bit more blending there if the total RIN’s are plus or minus $1 million that may just be timing of when they were sold at the month or when they cleared and all of that, but nothing material there. Generally, we've been doing more bulk proprietary blending than last kind of year-over-year-over-year.

Okay. Okay. And then Mindy I think on the 2Q call you had there that you would expect merchandise margins to be sort of in the 15.3% to 15.4% range. The 3Q margin was really impressive at 16%. I'm curious that suggest that 4Q will be lower or you're just outpacing your prior expectations and obviously Andrew provided some guidance but for your thoughts there?

Thank you for the question Ben. I'm really glad that you asked that because it's important to note that for the fourth quarter we are not expecting to setup fourth consecutive quarterly record on margin. We do expect this time we will be lower somewhere between 15.5% to the high 15% range is what we would expect. We had some rebates that hit us during this current quarter being the third quarter that were due to the volume that we were selling and so obviously that there's a seasonal aspect to that. So we do expect that’s a trend lower into the fourth quarter and so that will not be as big of the benefit of this quarter and so we are guiding you to 15.5% high 15% range versus the 16% that we posted the stock.

Okay. Great, I will get back in the queue. Best of luck.

Thanks, Ben.

Our next question comes from Chris Mandeville with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Yes, good morning. So I guess first I'm glad to see the fundamentals are largely still wrote quite robust and you're executing upon what you control. But maybe just sticking with the gross margins there for a second you mentioned the rebates, but that's simply timing or is that actually going to be head weight on a year-over-year basis on next year?

Due to a seasonal impact because a lot of the merchandise the manufacturer rebates that we get are based on the volume sold and so we're going to sell more things during the summer months, which are going to track those rebates. And so we naturally see those slowdown in the fourth quarter and the first quarter.

Okay. And then I suppose I actually only have one other question, as the majority have been already asked. Relative to your comments on the Midwest, Andrew, was that specific solely to gallon growth, or is that somewhat related to what you're seeing in-store as well?

No, it's overall traffic, this is something we always talk about when you take sort of a portfolio approach on Murphy USA sides you're going to get some great science you're going to get some good science are going to get some average some fair and you're going to get some poor science. And in the Midwest sides generally when we look at what are the drivers that we can use to predict volumes, traffic, cigarettes et cetera these just rack and stack on these lower end of the portfolio and the lower end of other Midwest store. So it's not just dragging the chain down and actually we're driving the Midwest comps down. And they're ramping up at the same time we had stores last year and we'll have some this year that are on the better end and so over the course of the portfolio whether it was the initial set of stores or the up to 200 portfolio you get your target returns, but if your mix of when you build them like in 2015 gets concentrated in your weakest geography. It just shows up that way. And what I'll tell you is we're doing a much better job now forecasting into our annual plan in our guidance for next year. More sites specific pro forma as a flow through. So we could have done a better job guiding around that versus just having regional specific numbers in there as well. So we're getting more the sophisticated in that forecasting approach also.

Okay. That’s helpful. Is it fair to say that the Midwest drag it actually kind of worsened sequentially or?

I think a state about the same I think there some other impacts have cost to balance around in other quarters. I think it's normalized and then you'll be comping against that weaker base next year. So I don't think it's continuingly getting worse.

Okay. And then maybe one last one for Mindy. You guys obviously see the response in your stock this morning. If I recall correctly you were actually quite proactive around these levels a few quarters ago. So I'm just trying to get a sense of capital deployments for future capital programs if you will and there's been any change to your view on the use of leverage?

Are you talking about would we add some leverage to repurchase more shares is that your question?

Correct. Or just simply your thoughts on generally adding to what remains, what's left for the existing $500 million.

Sure. Thanks for the question. If you look year-to-date, we've already completed $212 million of our $500 million allotment that go through next year. What I would say is we always love to buy our shares at advantaged prices. So we will be looking at our cash balances through the end of the year and deciding what we think we can afford and how aggressive that we and our Board wants to be. I don't want to quantify that for you now. We also do have the ability as you indicated to add some leverage especially as we go into next year but we need to take a look at whether our CapEx requirement is going to be balance that out versus completing the share purchases. We may be in a position where we do need to add some leverage. The good news is that these EBITDA levels we could add over $250 million and still be within our two and a half time leverage maximum target.

Very helpful. Thanks, again and best of luck in Q4.

Thanks, Chris.

Our next question comes from Ben Brownlow with Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Good morning.

Good morning.

It’s pretty healthy optimization for labor on a per store basis. Can you quantify that kind of 1.4% year-to-date decline? Can you quantify that? And then how much was the offset from the refresh program?

The offset from a maintenance standpoint?

Embedded within the station OpEx line item.

Within the station OpEx line item - looking to add prior year, it was about a $1.3 million difference and what was sent from period-to-period. So that was the offsetting number.

Then, can you quantify the labor optimization savings?

Yes. Looking at total operating expenses before credit card, looking at variances to prior years, it's about $2.5 million.

Is that the year-to-date number?

That’s on a quarterly basis, on a year-to-date number that’s about $8.5 million.

Okay. That's helpful. And is that refresh spend – does that level out at the store basis, or is that something that's recurring?

So we had been having a recurring cost for about 100 to 125 stores every year. We would get a list from Walmart around stores there. Refurbishing and we would do those at the same time, we recognize as a public company we needed to get out in front of that and raise the priority for refreshing our stores from a capital and expense standpoint. So we started this 300 a year program. And I think we'll have one more year of that and then it really levels off after that because we’ve gone through close to 1,000 stores in a three-year period. And so that'll be the majority of the network pretty well caught up from a refresh standpoint then you just get back down to normal recurring maintenance.

Okay. And just one more from me. As I think about the same-store growth and gross profit on the non-cigarette side or the merchandise side, can you give us a sense of what that gross profit growth on a same-store basis would be, excluding the Core-Mark deal? And basically I'm trying to get a sense as we think about 2017, and obviously there's been a pretty big diversion between the same-store sales decline versus your gross profit growth. But just trying to get a sense as we look to 2017 as you lap that Core agreement, how much do you think you can continue to grow gross profit excluding cigarettes on a same-store basis?

Yes. So Core-Mark is 80% to 90% tobacco because most of the beverages and salty snacks and the like is on a DSD basis. So just a smaller percent of the improvement in non-tobacco, gross margin improvement is due to Core-Mark. It's really due to promotion optimization, pricing optimization et cetera. I think as we look forward to next year with some of the resources we've brought on board. Some of the work we've done around our systems. We're going to be in a much better position to optimize our mix center of the store begin to start tailoring our offer to more local regional preferences and the like and just get a lot smarter about kind of timing of when we do promotions and the like. So there are still runway there beyond core mark and beyond the improvements we've done this year.

Okay. Great. And I guess following up on earlier question you've given comments around the vendor rebates and the benefit there and some of the seasonality associated with that. I guess is there the same sort of benefit that you think you can continue to drive for 2017 or is there some kind of unusual uptake in that vendor rebates for this year?

One of the things that is new is when you start adding more super coolers and you start adding more 1,200 square foot store just your shelf allowances for products start clipping different levels or you do a cooler reset, reducing some facings of certain CSD’s and you open yourself up to new subcategories or SKU’s within that. So I think that was some of the benefit we saw maybe in Q1 if I recall around additional shelf allowances that we hadn't got in the prior year. So there are going to be some things like that that will be repeating themselves at higher levels, but other rebates and allowances that remain constant. And the supplier, manufacturers they may have new programs to drive sales or shift some of their programs as well. So there's always still little uncertainty there. I would generally say more of the same than the less.

Great. Thank you.

Thanks, Ben.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Damian Witkowski with Gabelli & Company. Your line is now open.

Good morning.

Good morning, Damian.

Do you have cadence by month for the same-store sales for both if you and merchandise Andy. I know that you said June for fuel is pretty strong. I'm sorry July was pretty strong and it fell off in August and September as the wholesale price climbed. And I assume there is directional correlation between the two I assume that and if I look at the non-tobacco merchandise same-store sales declining I would think that’s probably driven by just traffic decline to your stores?

Yes. So I don't have the monthly right here. Prices did fall off in July, but there would be other factors as well that would impact July performance, but we can follow-up on that. Typically, it is all about traffic at the end of the day and so whether it's – because you're pricing to the broader area of the market compresses and so you and the other lower price retailers competitive on the way up and that reduces traffic whether it's the decline in cigarettes, in the ship and cartons to packs et cetera impacts traffic. All of those things can impact that which is again why we've been focused on the larger stores and driving conversion there. And it’s one of the reason we highlighted the fresh food distanced and bear being up on both units, sales and margins. That's a good reflection of the newer stores and what they're able to do in terms of converting those customers in.

In general you are stepping back, I mean I think over the last few years we've had cents per gallon for the industry obviously varies day-to-day, quarter-to-quarter, month-to-month. But overall it's been a trend upward. Is there anything you're seeing that’s changing that you obviously are seeing more pressure on the – forgetting the low volume providers who don’t have to price as fast, don’t have to take the price as fast on the way up. Are you seeing anything else in general in the industry that would give you sort of caution about the competitive environment?

Yes. Nothing really about the competitive environment, I mean we continue to add new stores, other advantages competitors add new stores, grocery stores that are – building new grocery stores including neighborhood markets are adding fuel on that. The competitive environment remains strong from that standpoint so that continues to just put pressures on it which is why we've always taken the view of the long run margins are whereas like $0.13 to $0.13 in nominal terms. What I would say is the margin for any given year is just a function of the four quarters of the 12 months and so you know we said at the beginning of last year and again at the beginning of this year. Crude prices have got to rebound from the lows that they were add and it was just a matter of when not if that happened and so when we get through with 2016 we're going to look back on a margin that's probably close to $0.12. You can look back largely to the third quarter and say okay that's a big driver and why it wasn't $013 or $0.14 or something more in line with what we've seen in the past. It was largely due to the period in which crude prices kind of rebounded up with the OPEC news and other factors. And so once you get to a new stabilized crude price whether it's 50 or 55 unless it just kind of rising $5 a barrel over the next few years. We would expect to go back and see the new seasonal volatility and price patterns that are more normal kind of a run up from January to April, May fall off in May, June. And then kind of a fall off again towards the end of the summer into the fall. Our fall off this year wasn't as pronounced in the first half of the year and we just skipped one of our normal periods where it fell off. So I think accordingly if we go back to that more normal environment and you know typical volatility pattern we would have those opportunities to be more aggressive on price and pickup volume as a as a result of that. But we always said at some point crude prices go back up is going to compress margins on the way up when that happens it challenges your ability to get some volume on the margin economically. So it's not a surprise that it happen it just when it happens no one had a crystal ball to predict that.

Sure. But you have to rethink the actual strategy of - sort of given up volumes and ultimately giving up traffic when crude goes up and just kind of take a hit on the margin side and hope to keep the traffic?

It just not an economic payoff because what you can get is that marginal customer back the next quarter when prices fall.

Okay. They do come back.

They do.

And then just lastly on the product supply, if we're here two months from now or three months from now and we're looking at 2017 and let's say for whatever reason RINs are again back to the $0.40, $0.45 range? Would you still guide to $0.25 to $0.45 contribution range for PS&W.

No I think what I probably do next year with my team's concurrence is just to say it's $0.025 to $0.03 per gallon and you guys figure out RIN prices and PS&W contribution. That way we don't have to get into this debate, we’ll help people with their whiffs and the like.

That’s a good idea. Thank you.

That’s what we’ve been saying. So our bad for not doing that earlier but we try to repeat that every quarter and we will just try to make it easier. That said we're going to continue to report RINs and other income. Just like refiners report the cost of it separately. I gave a real clear example of how it nets off against our piece and it’s still going to be in that $0.025 to $0.03 range. The refiners have that built into their refinery margin. They just like to call out the cost separately and appreciate that refinery margins are now at a very low point again. But that's largely due to the refinery economics, the excess product, the high utilization and the more macro factors and not really about RINs.

But if I - I mean, not to - if we go back to time before RINs were in double digits, would that $0.025 still hold?

So at the time of the spin that number was closer to $0.015 to $0.02 and we've made some other improvements to our business. So if you want to think about the longer-term range, that’s what it is. I think with the improvements we've made it would be higher than the prior range.

Very helpful. Thanks Andrew.

Thanks Damian.

Our next question comes from Pamela Rosenau with Hightower. Your line is now open.

Hi, Andrew.

Good morning.

Andrew, I wondered, have you all - are you in the middle of figuring out your cap spending for 2017 and anticipating how many stores you are going to open, and where you are in that process? And I wondered, I think the environment is changing. So, a couple of questions related to that. One, are the stores going to cost you the same amount of money per store? And, two, Mindy, with regard to taking on more debt, have you explored the pricing of that debt, and would your cost of capital still be very close to that 6%? Thank you.

Thanks Pamela. So yes we are busy in the midst of our annual plan, we take in front of our Board in December once it gets approved, I am not going to jump out in front of my Board as a best practice there. We have guided previously to 50 stores of new-builds and 20 raze and rebuilds and so we feel comfortable with that. I think with the load leveling we've done with the express stores and we noted that we're already starting on stores that we're going to open in the first quarter of next year where we wouldn’t have been able to do that on USA stores because of the Walmart blackout period that load leveling with our general contractors actually results in our stores costing less, because it's more efficient for us and them to do that. So 50 new stores, mostly expresses will have the last number of USA stores in that mix generally expect them to cost the same or less, but we're not seeing inflation in our items and we’ll continue to do strategic sourcing and other initiatives to reduce the cost. I know Mindy has got a good answer for you on your debt question.

Yes. Thanks for the question on debt Pamela. I'm always looking at the cost of debt whether we need to add any or not. So what I would tell you is firstly it's going to depend on how much leverage would we want to add. I think we probably exhausted the amount that we can get from the banks on a term loan basis at the $200 million dollar level that’s obviously a very advantage rate of LIBOR plus 250. So what we would probably do is look first to the bond market and see whether we could just do attack on to our existing bonds or a new issuance. Either way we have the advantage of both rating agencies having upgraded us since the rating that we had at spin. So we sit just one notch below investment grade with both agencies with a very strong track record of performance and so. I think our bond would be attractive to the market and I think we could easily achieve something under the 6% level if rates stand where they are.

Mindy, it looks like you would gain, what, 500 basis points if you bought your stock in now in terms of value accretion. It seems like a no-brainer to finish that share buyback program.

Pamela we don't disagree with you and we have every intention of finishing that program. We're committed to it.

Thank you. End of Q&A

I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Mr. Clyde for closing remarks.

Great. Well, thank you. I know it's a busy day and week for earnings so appreciate everyone joining and we'll look forward to next quarter. Thank you very much.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program and you may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.