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Myers Industries, Inc. (MYE)

Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Mon, May 2, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Myers Industries, Inc. First Quarter 2016 Earnings Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Monica Vinay. Thank you. You may begin.

Monica Vinay

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to Myers Industries First Quarter 2016 Earnings Call. I am Monica Vinay, the Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer at Myers Industries. Joining me today are Dave Banyard, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Brackman, Vice President, Corporate Controller and Interim Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning, we issued a news release outlining the financial results for the first of 2016. If you have not yet received a copy of the release, you can access it on our Web site at www.MyersIndustries.com, under the Investor Relations tab. This call is also being webcast on our Web site and will be archived there along with a transcript of the call shortly after this event. Before I turn the call over to management for remarks, I would like to remind you that we may make some forward-looking statements during the course of this call. These comments are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements. Further information concerning these risks, uncertainties and other factors is set forth in the company's periodic SEC filings and may be found in the company's 10-K filing. I am now pleased to turn the call over to Dave Banyard.

Dave Banyard

Analyst

Thanks, Monica and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I am going to start on Slide 3 with summary of Q1 2016. In general, I would like to start by saying I am very pleased with our results in the first quarter. Mainly because we came in exactly where we thought we would. I think it's very important that you do what you say you are going to do and I am very excited that we did both on the top and the bottom line. Going through the summary here. Our net sales were down 3.3%, about 2% of that was currency and organic we are down 1.3%. again, this is in line with our expectations. Our gross margins were up nicely. 260 basis points to just under 32% due to a combination of lower input costs and operational improvement along with our some product line rationalization. Our adjusted earnings per share were up 75% to $0.21 and our free cash flow -- pause here for a minute -- it's a negative number but it was $4 million better than last year and just to remind everyone, we do have a bit of a first half, second half seasonality to this business, so generally speaking, we do have a negative cash flow in the first quarter and I will go into more detail on that in a later Slide. We do have several large onetime charges during the quarter that I will go into more detail later on, but $8.5 million of that was non-cash impairment charges in our Brazil business and $2 million related to severance charges. Next Slide. I will go into a little more detail on the financial summary. Starting at the top with our sales, down 1.3% on an organic basis and I want to…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Chris Manuel with Wells Fargo Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Gabe Hajde

Analyst

This is actually Gabe Hajde setting in for Chris. Couple of questions for you. Dave, I think you talked about, of the 260 bps of margin improvement, about half of that was from favorable input cost versus selling price. I think that’s about $2 million. Can you breakout how much of that might be sustainable or what's driving that? Is that just a disconnect or a lag effect from falling resin versus selling pricing. Maybe what product lines and/or division, I guess, are mostly called in.

Dave Banyard

Analyst

Sure. I am not going to go into detail on which businesses this affects, I think we have stated in the past that our index is about 18% to 25% of our total spend. So, really, what we are seeing there, and I will give you my view of the [PE] [ph] market and the PT market. I think the first quarter year-over-year was favorable. I think from a sequential standpoint it got a little worse but then that sort of balanced out here as we have moved on into the second quarter. In terms of the PT market, I think that the prices are up slightly. That’s not as much of a portion of our business. We had about 20% of our businesses in polypropylene and we expect that to be slightly worse going forward as we look at the market. This is an opportunity there for some more capacity to come online. But generally speaking there is, the PE market we expect to be able to continue to have favorable pricing through the year. PT is a little more questionable.

Gabe Hajde

Analyst

To summarize, I mean would you expect to have to give some of that back or you just -- you are expecting kind of a neutral price-cost relationship for the rest of the year, such as the other 130 basis points of margin improvement is sustainable.

Dave Banyard

Analyst

I see where your question is. Yes, I think so. I think with the operational improvements we have made are permanent ones and I think we should be able to sustain those.

Gabe Hajde

Analyst

All right. Can you update us in terms of a CFO search and maybe your thoughts there on timing?

Dave Banyard

Analyst

Sure. I don’t have any specific timing for you but the process is definitely on track to where we thought it would be and I will also say that we have got a great team here, which is Kevin and Monica that are holding it for them. So it's going as we expected to and we will keep you updated as we move forward.

Gabe Hajde

Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And then Dave, with respect to the working capital initiatives that you spoke of, I think 9% to revenue and maybe some selected opportunity. Do you know what components you are looking at and how maybe we can quantify it? We are talking about maybe 50 or 100 basis points of opportunity over the next two years or?

Dave Banyard

Analyst

Yes. I am not going to quantify it but I think all the elements are areas that we are focused on and it depends on which P&L you are talking about. So some of the businesses still have some inventory opportunities and that’s either driven because of their operational inefficiencies or because of just how they have operated regarding inventory in the past. I think there is also opportunity for us to put permanent fixes in place if you will, on terms with our customers and with our suppliers and we are working on those on going. I think we have got some onetime benefits that have shown up in the past and that’s made our working capital a bit choppy. I would like to see it be a little smoother so that you can see what the real run rate is and then improve off of that. It's easier to improve off of a steadier platform. So that’s what we are shooting for in this year and then that will make fairly obvious where the opportunity are to improve.

Gabe Hajde

Analyst

Okay. And one last for us. In the distribution business, sounds like there is some sale initiatives going on. Do you know about how long that may take to come to fruition for you in terms of whether it's top line growth and/or margin improvement in that business.

Dave Banyard

Analyst

Sure. Well, I think you are going to -- we are going to be able to capture some of each as we go because this is a full comprehensive initiative here. It's not -- if it was one element of the commercial process, I would say, be able to give you a shorter time line and a more definitive expectation in terms of improvement. But there are a lot of different things -- lot of different elements to what we are trying to change within the organization there. And so it's going to take the better part of the year here and we will see slight improvements as we go and implement each part but as you are making changes like this, as you turn the page on one change, you face roadblocks in the other parts of the changes that you are going to do. I mean, in order to make a sales force more efficient, there is not just one thing you have to do. There are a number of things that we need to do so support our team and feel much better. I did spend a couple of days in the first quarter out in the field with some of our sales team and I learned a ton from that. We had some great people out there. There are a lot of things we need to do to help them be better and more effective at their job. Some of them are easy, some of them aren't.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Adam Josephson with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Dave, just one clarification on the resin question that Gabe asked. Your EBIT was up $3 million, adjusted EBIT. How much of that was resin?

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

About half of the improvement was from resin.

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And then in terms of your full year sales outlook, I know you talked about consumer being a bit worse because of a later start. So hoping you could elaborate on that. Food and beverage being worst because of Brazil. I know you have couple of businesses in Brazil so I just was hoping you could kind of talk about the state of your different businesses there, obviously, which precipitated the right down. And then you talked about your industrial outlook being better on account of share gains. But it sounds like your saying that market as a whole has not improved over the past three months. Can you elaborate on all those issues, if you don’t mind?

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Sorry, Adam, tell me what the first market question you had was again?

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Sure. Consumer, you said it starting a little later than what you are used to?

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Sure. So a couple of things at play. I will go through them in order here. Start with the consumer. Couple of things at play here. I don’t think we did ourselves any favors by launching new products late. So we have got, what I think is one of our better products out in the field now but as you can imagine, any new product doesn’t take off immediately. So this is a little bit of a lag there. But also we saw some choppiness within the first quarter, particularly at the big boxes in terms of their point of sale data and so it's just been a little bit slower. It's nothing that I am terribly worried about. Year-over-year we are fine. It's just that it's a little slower than what we were expecting for the year. And that could be driven a little bit by the weather. It could be driven a little bit just by how the big boxes are planning their inventory right now but our point of sale data would indicate that we are kind of in a good place with them in terms of managing inventory. So I think it's just end markets. And I think if you look at some of the maybe some of the turf companies out there that are selling lawnmowers and that kind of stuff, they are not seeing huge growth right away early in the year either. So we will see how the second quarter plays out. It is a very short-term horizon that we have within that business. But so far it's steady but not up. It's just a change from what we had said a couple of months ago. So in Brazil, the automotive markets down there are down significantly and that effects our business. The bigger portion of our business is in beverage and that’s down significantly. Part of that is there is some M&A going on, it's clouded the picture from last year but it's also the market itself is, people are just not spending capital down there right now. Could that improve? As the government stabilizes, perhaps, but we are not expecting to have a great year in Brazil. And so we are looking at the different steps we need to take to make sure that we are prepared for that and we are looking at a bunch of different options as to what we can do there and once we are ready to roll that out we will let you know.

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Just a couple of clarifications. On the Brazil, the consumer for [Utah] can, returnable bottles, specifically beer.

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Correct.

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

And so your customers are not replacing their flow to the extent they have historically?

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

That’s correct. And what is clear is that they have told us they are not buying. What's unclear and it seems as though the market is following that. The market indicators as we see are the market itself is down in a similar fashion, but at some point, they are going to run out of crates, they are going to have to order something but it's unclear when and what volume. So we reduced our expectations significantly based on the information we have today.

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Right. And before I get to the industrial piece, the beer production there in Brazil has fluctuated wildly. Year-to-date it was down, I think 18% in March. It was up 10% in April. Do you have any sense as to what the underlying trends are because the production data has been just all over the map.

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, I think the underlying trends are there is a bias to saving cash and so we are considered a capital spend as part of what we are doing. So they are trying to just use what they have longer. Now there [indiscernible] would be a glut of inventory out there from various reasons, I don’t know that for a fact that that could be a contributor. But I think it's just a clamp down on spending but I don’t know that there is going to be some sort of rebound of pent up demand down the road. So it's just [indiscernible] They are using what they have for longer.

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

And just a couple of others Dave. Just on industrial. You have a slightly better outlook not because of the broader market but because of your share gains and channel expansions. The data -- the broader data has been up and down. How would you characterize the U.S. industrial market at this point?

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Up and down is the best way to describe it. So you look at things like industrial production, capacity utilization. Those things are flat. You look at new orders and those are positive and that’s good, I like to see that. Inventories are still high but coming down perhaps but then you look at other -- I look at things like automation industry is a bellwether leading indicator in that. There results in the first quarter weren't great. So capital spending seems to be lower but then demand maybe is picking back up. So those are mixed signals we are looking at. So we are cautious there. This is -- I mean I think that there is opportunities for us and I am excited about those and so we are going to focus on where we have opportunities to win and increase our channel coverage and that will hopefully be buoyed by a market that comes back. But I don’t think there is anything solid that would tell you the market is going up. And then, of course, last week we got pretty bad first quarter GDP numbers, not that I just look at that alone but that’s not great either.

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Right. And just one clarification on the consumer piece, Dave. So you mentioned that the big box retailer have not been ordering, I guess, up to their usual standard. The weather seemed pretty great in the first quarter. You know unusually mild. So is there any reason why the weather would have been problematic from the perspective of your consumer business or the broader market.

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. It's tough to say, and I am always hesitant to talk about weather being -- because, a, it's something we can't control, and b, you can always find an argument for weather on one side or the other. But I think that the good side of the weather being warmer, is that the housing market had some continued building going on and we would think that housing starts is a good indicator for us. But for whatever reason -- and we have this, we see data from our end retail outlets. We see what their point of sale data is and it's very tepid. So I don’t have a expansion for you on that, Adam, but that’s...

Adam Josephson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Sure I appreciate it, Dave. And then just one last one about the results compared to your expectations sales obviously in line, margins were higher. Was there something that particularly surprised you to the upside in the quarter, be it either your productivity or the resin benefits that you experienced.

Dave Banyard

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Well, to be fair, I think that our expectations -- that the results were right in line with our internal expectation. So I didn’t see any surprises. No. I think we came in right where we thought we would be.

Operator

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Paige with Gabelli & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Paige

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please proceed with your question.

I was wondering if you could provide a little color on the new sales team initiative and how that impacted sales in the distribution segment at least during the quarter?

Dave Banyard

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Sure. Thanks. I think the couple of key things on that is as you are rolling something like this out, there is training required and that is going to take you away from selling from a couple of days. So you start right there, we are in a whole, because you can't get those days back. But I will also say that we have had some turnover and some of that is a good thing and some of that’s going to continue to happen when you have a change like this and that’s also affecting our selling days out there. So it's primarily selling days and when you think about changing the mindset and implementing new tools for a team, it's training involved in that that slows you down and keeps you from doing the key thing that we want our sales people doing what you are doing out there and selling. And when I talk about training, I am talking about targeting new types of customers, selling new kinds of products and then training in more efficient ways of managing time and they have a sort term negative impact because again, to train someone you have to take them away from what they are doing. But then long-term it makes them more efficient and the idea there is that we are going to have more time selling which is what we want.

Matthew Paige

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. And then you saw solid margin gains on the material handing side. What levers do you have left to pull on the distribution side of the business to keep improving profitability there?

Dave Banyard

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please proceed with your question.

So there is a product mix. A good strategy focuses on what products are not only serving your customer best but also serving your internal piece best. So a lot of what you see, and again I think the top level distribution margin decline in the first quarter was -- didn’t reflect what I would say are solid gains that we are making in that arena with the distribution portion of the business. We just had a bad inefficient quarter at our Patch Rubber business and that really dragged margins down. So all in all, if you continue to improve what your offering to the customer in terms of products but also services and how you are selling to them, you are going to see margin let there. So that’s our goal with that business, so it's part of this sales force initiative is -- a big part of it is targeting the right customers and targeting the right products to be selling to those customers. I have one more piece. Some of that is what we are not going to sell. One of the things I will say is, a lot of businesses like this have been doing some of the same things for a long time and it's hard to change those habits. I understand that but sometimes we are not selling the right products with enough emphasis and some products we will probably shouldn’t be selling. So we are going through all that right now.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ms. Vinay, there are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back to you for any final remarks.

Monica Vinay

Analyst

Thank you. We thank all of you for your interest in Myers Industries' and your time and participation today. As a reminder, a transcript of this call will be available on our Web site within approximately 24 hours. A replay will immediately be available via webcast or call. Details can be found on our Web site at www.myersindustries.com. Thanks and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.