Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the NCR Atleos Q1 FY '24 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Brendan Metrano. Please go ahead.
NCR Atleos Corporation (NATL)
Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, May 14, 2024
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Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the NCR Atleos Q1 FY '24 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Brendan Metrano. Please go ahead.
Brendan Metrano
Management
Good morning, and thank you for joining the NCR Atleos' first quarter earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Tim Oliver, CEO; Paul Campbell, CFO; and Stuart MacKinnon, Chief Operating Officer. Tim will start this morning with an overview of first quarter performance and an update on our objectives for 2024. Next, Paul will review our financial results and outlook, and then we will move to Q&A. Before we get started, let me remind you that our presentation and discussions will include forward-looking statements. These statements reflect our current expectations and beliefs and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expectations. These risks and uncertainties are described in today's materials and our periodic filings with the SEC, including our annual report. Also, in a review of results today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which the company uses to measure its performance. These non-GAAP measures are described and reconciled to their GAAP counterparts in the presentation materials and on the Investor Relations website. Note that on the website, we have also provided historical financial results on a carve-out accounting basis for 2022 and 2023 to aid in analysis and modeling. A replay of this call will be available later today on our website, investor.ncratleos.com. With that, I will turn the call over to Tim.
Timothy Oliver
Management
Thank you, Brendan, and thank you to everyone for joining us on this call this morning. Before I launch into discussion of a very successful quarter and because I'm hopeful that many of you are newer to the Atleos story, I think it makes sense to reiterate the significant opportunity and focused strategy of Atleos now as an independent pure-play ATM company. Atleos has a service fleet of approximately 600,000 ATMs, 15% of which we own and operate for our own Network business. In the current global environment of steady cash-based consumer transactions and a stable installed base of ATM hardware, our growth will come from generating more revenue for every machine that we support. Whether that's from providing higher quality, more efficient, and more comprehensive services to our financial institution clients or by driving more transaction volume across our Network machines located in blue-chip retail locations, both are fueled by our customers' desire to improve financial access for their customers while outsourcing more of their cash ecosystem. And as we service both from a common infrastructure that is unmatched scale, is leverageable, and is world-class, our customers are increasingly reinvesting back into their retail banking footprint and embracing shared financial utilities. For them, this strategy will result in lower cost, higher quality, better consumer experience, broader reach, and in some instances, higher foot traffic. For NCR Atleos, it will drive higher revenue growth, higher profitability from a scale and richer revenue mix, and a predictable free cash flow. Turning to Slide 5. I'm pleased to report that we are off to a very good start for the year. First quarter financial results were at or above the high end of expectations, led by strong growth in both our transaction base and our services businesses. And profit margins are beginning…
Paul Campbell
Management
Thanks, Tim, and thanks to all for joining us today. I echo Tim's comments that we had an excellent start to the year in our first full quarter as an independent company. We were particularly pleased with the financial results, momentum of our businesses, and the progress on our objectives. Importantly, it further validated the power of our strategy to generate higher revenue and profit per unit across our global installed base of around 600,000 ATMs through adding incremental transaction and service revenue streams. In the discussion of non-GAAP financial results, there are certain instances where year-over-year comparisons are inconsistent. Normalizing these factors would have provided a more favorable comparison, but I prefer not to complicate a good set of results. Where meaningful, I will variably reference those to provide a clearer view on how the business has performed. With that, I'll turn to Slide 9 for a review of the consolidated first quarter results. Total company revenue of $1.05 billion was at the high end of expectations, led by 8% growth in service revenue that reflected our continued success in generating more revenue per unit. Strong services revenue contributed 7% growth in recurring revenue to $763 million, which comprised 73% of total revenue, a new high for the company. First quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 11% year-over-year to $162 million on strong top line growth and 60 basis points of margin expansion to 15.4%. Moving down the P&L, we had interest expense of $79 million or an average total debt balance of $3.1 billion, including approximately $1.7 billion variable rate debt. The weighted average interest rate on debt was approximately 9.4%. First quarter effective tax rate was approximately 27% and the fully diluted average share count was 73.1 million. Putting it together, first quarter diluted adjusted earnings per share was…
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We'll go first to Matt Summerville with D.A. Davidson.
Canyon Hayes
Analyst
You have Canyon Hayes on for Matt Summerville this morning. Maybe we could just talk about the ATM-as-a-Service deployment cadence to hit your annual targets. It looks like it was flattish sequentially. And I was just curious about the cadence through the rest of the year? And I know we talked about backlog a little bit, but I'd be curious about the funnel unit metrics therein?
Paul Campbell
Management
Yes, Canyon, this is Paul here. Thanks for the question. That's a business that's not -- it doesn't flow on a linear basis. As we noted, we've got over 4,000 in backlog. This is similar to what we experienced last year. We did over 1,500 in a month last year and some months were less. So we're still seeing very robust funnel activity, the backlog is strong, and just some quarters there will be less volume than other quarters. So we're still aligned to our expectations originally, and just Q1 was a bit lighter than the future quarters will be. As we look through the year, we do see that there's going to be more in the back half than the first half. So I think it is kind of like 30%, 35% of our target in the first half and then 65% to 70% in the second half.
Canyon Hayes
Analyst
Great. Switching over to Voyix. Could we talk about the sustainability of transaction trends. I mean, being in the low double digits to mid-teens. Similarly, I'd be curious to see where ARPU trends from here, and where ongoing net footprint rationalization is going to end up throughout the year?
Stuart MacKinnon
Analyst
Yes, I think we are confident in the continued transactions, just that is not more people doing cash transactions. Cash transactions remain stable and active in all of our markets, but our strategy of migrating transactions out of the branch into our retail utility network is resonating both with standard brick-and-mortar financial institutions and particularly neobanks, who don't have any infrastructure and rely on us to support their growing customer base. So we're very comfortable with the transaction growth. We think that can continue along to the plan that we've outlined in our Investor Day. And those expanded transaction sets that we talked about -- Tim talked about, deposit transactions being our highest-growing transaction. Those are significantly higher-margin transactions for us. So that's what drives our ARPU growth.
Paul Campbell
Management
And then Stuart, the installed base -- there's a question on the installed base. We think the installed base in the Network segment will be largely flat to where it is today. It's still around 80,000, 81,000 units.
Operator
Operator
We'll go next to George Tong with Goldman Sachs.
Keen Fai Tong
Analyst
You mentioned with your ATM-as-a-Service unit, you expect most of the growth to happen in the second half of this year and that some quarters could be lumpy in terms of growth in units. Can you elaborate on the amount of visibility you have in terms of the number of units in any given quarter? And how much you expect the pipeline to ultimately convert to backlog and revenue?
Paul Campbell
Management
Yes, George. So we talked about we've got 4,000 in the backlog today. We're working through scaling those rollouts. So they have built rollout at different times based upon the different aspects of those where the ATM to be replaced or where the software stack is. So there's different complexities there. So yes, they'll roll out. And we're expecting the funnel to come in on a more linear basis, and it's down to the timing of the scheduling of the rollout from our side.
Timothy Oliver
Management
George, this is Tim. This is somewhat of a bifurcated market. We win either very large deals or deals that are relatively small. And so the typical win for us right now is 250 to 300 machines. There are transactions out there, deals that we bid on that are 3,000 or 4,000 machines. Those move the needle very rapidly and cause in a singular quarter to that number to go up. We will be very careful on those larger transactions that often occur in places where it's more difficult to make, let's call it, a fair return, a good ROI. We may pass on some of those at some times in India and other places and favor the deals that are less capital intensive and have a much better ROI in parts of the world like North America and the Crown countries. So those deals are a little bit smaller, they accumulate a little bit slower, but I like the choices that we're making.
Keen Fai Tong
Analyst
That's helpful. And sticking with ATM-as-a-Service, is it normal seasonality for the number of ATM-as-a-Service units to increase faster in the second half of the year? Or can it vary in any given year in terms of the number of units you see in any given quarter?
Timothy Oliver
Management
In all the 2 years we've been asked this, we haven't seen much of a trend. So I would say this had a lot more to do with the timing of singular transactions and not much to do with seasonality.
Operator
Operator
We go next to Michael O'Brien with Wolfe Research.
Michael O'Brien
Analyst
Congrats on a great quarter. Two quick ones here. One, I just want to quickly confirm that you're still targeting 30,000 ATM-as-a-Service units by the end of the fiscal year? And then my second question is regarding the margin expansion. If you could provide a little bit more color regarding what's driving that? Obviously, transformation costs are coming down. You're targeting reducing stranded costs as well. But then on the flip side, we have some of these ATM-as-a-Service units getting online, which are higher margin as well. So if you can provide a little breakdown of what exactly is driving the margin expansion for the quarter. That would be extremely helpful.
Paul Campbell
Management
Yes, Michael, firstly, yes, we're still on target -- we're still targeting 30,000 units. As you asked that question, everyone in the room was nodding with you. So we're still on that path. For the margin expansion, was your question from Q1 to Q2?
Michael O'Brien
Analyst
Yes.
Paul Campbell
Management
Yes. Okay. Sorry. Yes. So for Q1, Q2, part of it is in the Network space. The transaction volumes, it's a very seasonal business. We do more transactions in Q3 than Q2 and Q2 than Q1. Incremental transactions through the network come through very high margin accretive, because effectively the fixed cost is still there. We also have the cost out initiatives that we kicked off as we separated. They compound as you go through the year. So there'll be a good flow-through from them in Q2, and it'll again increase into Q3 and into Q4. So they're the 2 largest buckets that we have, Michael.
Michael O'Brien
Analyst
Got you. And 1 follow-up on that. Regarding stranded costs, obviously, you're a new public company. Have you guys done a deep dive on stranded cost analysis, and what can be removed to increase margins going forward?
Timothy Oliver
Management
Yes. We're working our way through the TSAs currently. And when you go through that process, you find that each organization ends up with cost structures that are somewhat larger than you otherwise might have. We've hired some outside help, some folks who do this for living, who can help us think about what our cost structure should look like once we're finally separate from Voyix. It will be different than it is today. Some areas have to be a little bit more expensive. We need 2 audit firms. So we need 2 legal departments. We need 2 internal audit organizations. But there's a lot of things that can be less expensive. And so we'll work with that outside firm. I don't know that you'll see much return in indirect cost this year, and then we're working really hard at the rent cost productivity currently through the Service organization. But you'll start to see in the third and fourth quarter some reduction in what I'll call overhead costs.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We'll go next to Arun Seshadri with BNP Paribas.
Arun Seshadri
Analyst
Just wanted to understand, I mean, I can see the numbers are really nice and seeing that there's EBITDA growth here. Just wanted to understand, within the segment EBITDA, what type of, I guess, when you grow revenue in Self-Service, what sort of EBITDA growth would you expect? What kind of operating leverage would you expect? And I just wanted to understand also as your ATM-as-a-Service units come more online, do you expect to turn adjusted free cash flow to growth kind of in the back half of the year as well?
Paul Campbell
Management
Yes. Thanks, Arun. Good question. So in Self-Service Banking, the margin flow-through really depends on the revenue type. So if it was incremental upfront hardware sales, you would see somewhere around the 20% margin rate come through. If we're talking about ATM-as-a-Service, the more strategic revenue streams, that generally flows through an incremental around 40 points of margin, because we're leveraging existing infrastructure. So it's incremental flowing through an existing [indiscernible] that we have. So really depends on the revenue streams.
Arun Seshadri
Analyst
Got it. Understood. So as you expect the units to grow, you should return that segment EBITDA to growth as well, as you enter the back half of the year, it sounds like?
Paul Campbell
Management
We will, Arun, but just to give context, that segment was $46 million in the quarter. So it's still 5% to company, 10% to the segment. So it will need to get at more scalable for it to make a meaningful difference to the total segment margins.
Arun Seshadri
Analyst
Got it. Understood. And then the network revenue, as you said, flows through at a very high margin. That looks like it's 100% margin. Was there anything onetime in Q1 that made it look like the margin growth was actually larger than the revenue growth? Or we should just assume like a very high margin and maybe there was like $1 million or $2 million one-timers?
Paul Campbell
Management
Yes. There's no one-timers as such. There's a little bit of noise in our prior year accounting with it being on a carve-out basis. Some of the allocation methodologies were slightly different. So it was a very strong quarter for the Network segment. We're really pleased with the margins. But we wouldn't expect to flow through 100% margins. So a little bit of funniness in the compare, but a really good quarter performance for the Network segment margins.
Arun Seshadri
Analyst
Got it. Great. And then finally, I just wanted to follow up on the adjusted free cash flow. You saw very nice EBITDA growth, but adjusted free cash flow was about flat for the quarter. Is there anything onetime there? And I guess, do you expect to return to -- or do you expect to sort of grow adjusted free cash flow in the back half of the year?
Paul Campbell
Management
Yes. We find it hard to compare the adjusted free cash flow to the prior year, because we didn't have any debt. The debt was all assigned to the mother company. So you think of the debt we paid, the cash payment for debt Q1 was $19 million. That was probably literally nothing in the prior year. So for the full year, we have $290 million effectively incremental cost of interest on the debt. So the cash flow compared to prior year is not a useful measure. When we announced -- in our guidance, we've got a cash flow conversion of 25%. So at the first half, we'll be kind of well on track to that conversion rate.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We will take a follow-up from Matt Summerville with D.A. Davidson.
Canyon Hayes
Analyst
Just wanted to check in on your thoughts on the dividend in the near term versus deleveraging. Any sort of commentary around there?
Timothy Oliver
Management
Yes, that's a fair question. We went out on the road and talked about this company ultimately paying a dividend that we thought that, that might be in the latter half of the year. We're on the road back introducing people to NCR Atleos. And at the time we said we wanted to make sure we had a couple of quarters under our belt to see if we actually were generating sufficient free cash flow in order to allow us to return some capital back to shareholders. We are intent on reducing our indebtedness quickly. As Paul said, we're on path for our free cash flow generation. And I suspect, in the second quarter, we'll have something more to say about this. I'm not certain that where our valuation is currently, that the dividend is the right way to return cash to shareholders. And I think the stock repurchase program might make more sense with the valuation where it is today. But we'll address that. We did make a commitment to return some cash to shareholders once we were able to confirm we could generate the kind of cash we think that we can. And I think in the second -- this call 90 days from now, we'll have more to say about that.
Operator
Operator
There are no other questions at this time.
Timothy Oliver
Management
Great. I'll wrap up quickly. First, thanks, everyone, for joining today, and thanks to our employee base who really had a terrific quarter. As much as we try to make this look not too terribly complicated, and we talk to you all, I assure you that underneath the covers, this is a very busy place with a lot going on, and we feel very good about the first quarter. I think what you heard today is cash is healthy, ATMs are relevant, and cash-intensive demographics and regions are still cash intensive. I think you heard we have the most comprehensive, the most capable offerings for banks and retailers who want to outsource their cash ecosystem. You heard we're innovating, our machines are more capable and they're transacting more often. You heard we are generating more revenue per ATM through transaction volumes and importantly picking up more service revenue from our bank customers. And lastly, I'd say we're still undervalued, and we're going to do everything we can to fix that. We're going to reduce our leverage, we're going to perform predictably, and hopefully, we're going to attract some new investors. So thank you very much for your time, and we'll talk again in 90 days.
Operator
Operator
This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.