Sherif Foda
Analyst · JPMorgan.
Sean, thank you. So if you look at the D&E, obviously, it's Drilling and Evaluation, right? So it's a huge -- a lot of product lines and the mix makes a big difference if you have more of the evaluation type work than the drilling type work. So obviously, evaluation comes with the better margins than the fishing, rental type work, right? So in Q4, we had, I would say, better evaluation than drilling. And Q1 was -- the mix was a bit different. This is part of the margin. I guess that's what you're saying, Q1 versus Q4, but the big one is what we call cost-plus. As we -- as we now will be coming to -- the customer is really depending on us on some of these huge contracts. The beginning -- they asked us to go and manage a lot of those sites, right? So obviously, we take it because this is definitely strong for us to be able to perform this work. And definitely, the clients wants to have, as I keep saying, more efficient way of testing those wells. So they don't want to manage between trucking, contracting, catering, camps and et cetera, which we do it as cost-plus. We don't want to do this as -- in any other way. So if you think about it, Sean, in a very simple math, if you do -- our margins for our business is intact. It's the same. So if you -- let's say, for the sake of argument, if you do $10 million at 30% margin, it's the same. So you make $3 million. And then you have this additional work that you take, which is, let's say, 30% of that, which is $3 million, you do it at cost-plus, so gives you 10%-or-so. So all of a sudden your overall margin becomes, if you take $3 million over $10 million, it's 30%, but now you take 10% of $3 million, it's 300. So $3.3 million over $13 million gives you 25% margin, right? So your margin drop dilution, at the dollar value it increased because you have $300,000 more, you don't lose any money on taking care of that business; however, the overall dilution gets you 300, 400 points less. So in Q1, you saw that our revenue was, as I said, D&E doubled from a year ago, but part of it was small, but part of that contract where we took we have now taking that responsibility of managing the third party. And I think as the company gets bigger, you will have always this demand, can you take care of this. Obviously, the customer has to trust you that you can manage better than them or as good as them.