Good afternoon. My name is Emma, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Cloudflare Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background nose. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Jayson Noland, VP of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Thank you for joining us to discuss Cloudflare's financial results for the second quarter of 2022. With me on the call, we have Matthew Prince, Co-Founder and CEO; Michelle Zatlyn, Co-Founder, President and COO; and Thomas Seifert, CFO. By now, everyone should have access to our earnings announcement. This announcement as well as our supplemental financial information may be found on our Investor Relations website. As a reminder, we'll be making forward-looking statements during today's discussion, including, but not limited to, our customers, vendors and partners operations and future financial performance, anticipated product launches and the timing and market potential of those products, the Company's anticipated future revenue, financial performance, operating performance, non-GAAP gross margin, non-GAAP net income or loss, non-GAAP net income or loss per share, shares outstanding, non-GAAP operating expenses, free cash flow, non-GAAP tax expense, dollar-based net retention rate, paying customers and large customers. These statements and other comments are not guarantees of future performance but rather are subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, including, but not limited to, challenging general economic conditions, including inflation, rising interest rates and other impacts of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and Russia-Ukraine conflict. Our actual results may differ significantly from those projected or suggested in any forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements apply as of today, and you should not rely on them as representing our views in the future. We undertake no obligation to update these statements after this call. For a more complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could impact our future operating results and financial condition, please see our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission as well as in today's earnings press release. Unless otherwise noted, all numbers we talk about today other than revenue will be on an adjusted non-GAAP basis. All current and prior period financials discussed are reflected under ASC 606. You may find a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures in our earnings release on our Investor Relations website. For historical periods, our GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation can be found in the supplemental financial information referenced a few moments ago. We would also like to inform you that we will be participating in the Stifel Tech Executive Summit on August 30th, the Deutsche Bank Technology Conference on September 1st and the Piper Sandler Growth Frontiers Conference on September 13th. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Matthew.

Thank you, Jayson. Even with the increased economic uncertainty, we had a very strong quarter. In Q2, we achieved revenue of $234 million, up 54% year-over-year. We added a record 212 new large customers, those paying us more than $100,000 per year, and now have 1,749 customers over this threshold. These large customers now represent 60% of our revenue, up from 50% six quarters ago. This trend illustrates how large, established enterprises increasingly form the foundation of Cloudflare's business. In fact, today, 29% of the Fortune 1,000 are already paying Cloudflare customers, a nearly threefold increase over when we went public less than three years ago. Our dollar-based net retention remained strong at 126%, down 1% over last quarter. While there may be some noise in this number from quarter-to-quarter, we won't be satisfied until it's above 130% and best of breed among the companies we consider peers. Our gross margin remained strong at 78.9%, up 90 basis points year-over-year and still over our long-term target of 75% to 77%. Our operating margin was right at breakeven, which continues to be our plan so long as we can deliver strong growth. What I'm watching closely is our free cash flow margin. It showed significant improvement quarter-over-quarter, and we continue to forecast it will be positive in the second half of the year. On our last earnings call, I got a lot of raised eyebrows from many of you when I said Q1 of 2022 would prove to be the hardest quarter for our industry since Q1 of 2020. It didn't make me particularly popular around the CEO club, where the first rule of recession is not to talk about recession. However, transparency has always been one of Cloudflare's core values, so I'm going to call it like I see it.…

Thank you, Matthew, and thank you to everyone for joining us. We delivered another strong quarter driven by strength in our large customers with a record number of large customer additions as we continue to build our expansion engine. Our success in the first half of this year reflects the investments in our innovation and large enterprise go-to-market initiatives as well as the benefits of operating a durable, subscription-based revenue model. Turning to revenue. Total revenue for the second quarter increased 54% year-over-year to $234.5 million. The growth in revenue was driven by strong adoption of our product portfolio and continued traction with our enterprise customer base. Area 1, the e-mail security company we acquired in April, contributed less than 1% of revenue. From a geographic perspective, we saw continued strength in both, the U.S. and internationally. The U.S. represented 53% of revenue and increased 55% year-over-year. EMEA represented 26% of revenue and increased 54% year-over-year. APAC represented 14% of revenue and increased 43% year-over-year. We are pleased to see growth continue to accelerate in APAC. Turning to our customer metrics. In the second quarter, we had 151,800 paying customers, representing an increase of 20% year-over-year. We saw a higher level of churn due in part to pay-as-you go customers shifting down to our free customer tier. As our business continues to move up market, the total revenue contribution from our pay-as-you-go business which largely reflects SMB continues to decline, representing 11% of revenue in the second quarter, down from 14% in 2021 as disclosed at our Investor Day in May. Turning to large customers. We ended the quarter with 1,749 large customers, representing an increase of 61% year-over-year, and a record addition of 212 large customers in the quarter. We were pleased to see large customer revenue contribution increase…

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets.

Great. Thank you very much for the question. And congrats on the results in a tough environment. Maybe Thomas, for you, Matthew had a lot of helpful commentary, and I think we appreciate the candor. You mentioned longer sales cycles, but you still increased your full year guide by $13 million or more than the $7 million Q2 beat. Can you talk a little bit more about specifically how you thought about levels -- embedding levels of conservatism? And are you assuming things kind of stay the same or maybe get worse from here?

Yes. We looked at a lot of different factors impacting guidance this year, and you picked up some already. So, we continue to see elongated sales cycles at the high end of our business that is especially in the $0.5 million to $1 million bucket, and we expect that to continue. We saw also that our European business was the second best-performing region this quarter, and we've seen deterioration of performance, especially in Europe over the first and second quarter. So, we expect that the trend for sure not to improve. We also see across the board, I think, the companies are like us becoming more cautious in how they approach the business and things that are discussed twice in order to make sure that that has only been done once. So, we have not factored in our guidance that things would improve from here on moving forward, and perform rigorous analysis across verticals, across various regions and customer cohorts. And that's why you see a more prudent and more cautious guide for the third quarter and the end of the year.

Got it. That makes sense. And then maybe just one for Matthew. The wins that you called out in Workers are exciting. I guess, I'm wondering, is there an opportunity maybe more challenged economic times for customers to start to use Workers and even more creative, maybe cost-effective higher ROI ways than they would have otherwise done so, if like you said, the road was kind of clear ahead and no clouds or fog in front of us?

Yes. I think one of the really powerful things about Workers is its efficiency. And so a workload, an equivalent workload running on Workers versus running on any of the sort of traditional public clouds, AWSs, or Google Cloud or Microsoft Azure, is typically significantly less expensive to run. And the technical work in order to make that happen is part of the magic of what Workers delivers. And so, we are definitely seeing especially in either new startups or people who are really realizing that they've got to make money go further. The days of just wildly spending on your cloud bill, I think, are behind us. And there are many different ways, both with Workers as well as just some of our standard products, that if you put us in front of your typical public cloud, we can often save you quite a bit of money. And so again, I think that that was a message that didn't really resonate very much a year ago, where everyone was just -- seem my money was free and people were throwing it at any problem that was out there. But I think in these particular environments where people are trying to figure out how to stretch a dollar even further, Workers and Cloudflare's platform as a whole is very effective at helping people save money.

Your next question comes from the line of James Fish with Piper Sandler.

Actually, intra-quarter was an interesting release from you guys that you talked about the Cloudflare one partner program, and Matthew, in your prepared remarks, you mentioned taking some of your competitors’ top channel partners. Can you go over some of the details that you expect in terms of how this program is going to work for you guys? Is it solely focused on security? And how this is going to impact your indirect mix and profitability over the next couple of years?

Yes. I think that -- from the early days of Cloudflare, we explored various partner programs. And the challenge was that for a lot of our early products took 5 minutes to sign up, and they just worked out of the box, and so there wasn't a lot of value to add as a value-added reseller. And so, while we had what I would call fairly standard success for the SaaS industry in working with partners, I don't think our products really facilitated getting the most out of the partner ecosystem. And especially, if all a partner is an order taker, then that's not a lot of value. I think a handful of things have happened. One is that our products have gotten more complicated, and the ability to customize them in various ways has become much richer. So for example, with Workers, what we're seeing from a partner like IBM is that they can actually develop their own intellectual property for a particular industry vertical, deploy that on Workers, and then sell that same IP over and over again. That's great for them. It really drives their services revenue, and it's great for us because it means that we are getting more leverage in what we're able to deliver through partners. The second thing is that I think we saw with Zscaler that their success with a handful of partners in selling Zero Trust products was really successful. Those products take more work to actually implement and deploy within an organization. It's not a 5-minute setup. And so, in that case, that's an area where we are able to work with partners. And in particular, we're very much following the playbook. And when we talk to the partners that are selling Zero Trust services, they all want to have…

Very helpful, Matthew. Last one for me is a big government quarter coming up here. And obviously, you guys have -- just some integrated relationship. I guess, what are you seeing on the government agency side and that FedRAMP program? Thanks guys.

Yes. I appreciate it. We are -- it's like being in line with DMV. We've pulled our ramp number and are just waiting for it to come up for us to get our FedRAMP certification. And so we expect that we'll have very positive news for that next quarter. But we're basically at number -- we're number 84 and it's showing number 83 on the sort of red number counting board at the DMV. So, that's positive. We see across the board, not just with federal, but the example that I gave is the State of Arizona, we're seeing a lot more people adopt Cloudflare services in that government space. And so, I think that that continues to be a place where we have very strong relationships. And as we continue to get the various certifications, it will allow us to go even faster.

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Henderson with Needham & Co.

I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the context of the commentary around economic conditions. It's pretty obvious, the entire planet, the economies globally are decelerating. And particularly, Europe is under a lot of duress. But your initial comments was sort of that you saw that start to really manifest in 1Q and that it actually improved somewhat or at least stabilized in 2Q, yet you sound a lot more cautious on your thought process and so forth. And I'm wondering if there's a little bit of a disconnect between those two, the tone of those two. It doesn't sound like your business has rolled at all and sequentially got worse or more tense. But on the other side of the coin, you sound like you're being much more conservative in your outlook. So could you parse between those two a little bit?

Yes, Alex. I think that. What we see is that the environment has gotten harder. And I think we saw the first signals of that actually going back to December of 2021, and they really started to manifest in various ways, slowdown of pipeline, slowdown of customers paying their bills in Q1 of this year. And we talked about that on the last quarter earnings call. And I think some people were questioning why would we do that? What I think we've been able to do, though, because we saw that, we acknowledged it. We didn't pretend like everything was normal, was really adjust to take advantage of the situation. And so, I think one of the real powers of Cloudflare's business is the diversity of our customer sets, both on a geography and also industry basis, the diversity of our products, and that allows us to have multiple levers to be able to continue to deliver even when the times get tough. And I think if you go back to the COVID quarters, and that was definitely a time where we had to adjust how we went to market, what we did, what types of customers are we focused on. We really transitioned from being a business-driven primarily from getting new logos to one that developed a real expertise in how to go to our existing customers and sell them more. And I think there are a lot of analogies that are similar to the sort of adjustments that we've made that allowed us to have a quarter like this. But make no mistake, we're still in what my grandmother would call, a tule fog. We've still got to go out and do the work every day of filling up the wheelbarrow with new leads, sifting through it to look for what's going to be the most promising and being able to deliver. But what I like about our business is, again, it's diversity across customer types, customer sizes, products, ways that we can go to market. And I think our team has done a good job of adapting to what is a much more difficult situation today than it was a year ago.

Alex, maybe one additional point. I pointed that out in my script, but -- and I didn't mention it in the previous answer. What we do feel is also currency headwinds, especially in Europe. So, even if the economic activity for us in terms of deal volume would be the same, we see the headwinds from a currency perspective in Europe, but also in other parts of the world, Japan, for example, that we need to digest.

Yes. That actually leads me to the second question that I wanted to ask is the European environment is particularly onerous with 20% currency translation headwinds in EMEA or inflation, rising interest rates, Bank of England just raised rates 0.5% today, in fact. And given that environment, they're struggling with huge price increases, particularly on systems in local -- in dollars plus the currency translation and their budgets are fairly flat. Now, my understanding is there seems to be a separation between companies that are selling relatively low-priced/high-value technologies and companies are selling high-ticket technologies. Can you talk about whether you're aggressively low price? And the fact that you're a lower ticket upfront gives you a big advantage in that geography because of that characteristic and whether you're seeing more pressure on the higher value with the higher, bigger ticket transactions because I think ultimately, that seems to be the divining rod between who wins and loses in Europe.

Well, I think it's certainly a benefit that our products are mission-critical. But even then, at the high end and bigger ACV deals, decision takes longer. That's where you see the elongated sales cycles. The second factor in our favor is that gross margin is one of the strong points of the business model. When we deploy that web and we always talked a bit audit as a strategic weapon where it makes sense. So that doesn't mean price cutting. We try to be strategic and accommodating where we think it makes sense to build business relationship and business. But, we're using our margin to accommodate for that without any doubt.

Your next question comes from the line of Shaul Eyal with Cohen. Your line is now open.

Congrats on a set of results. Matthew, the first question for you. So, lots of discussions throughout the quarter, maybe some chatter around your crypto exposure, potential implications. Maybe a good opportunity here to address Cloudflare's exposure, maybe current thinking on this vertical, given the changing dynamics we've seen in recent months.

Sure. I mean, I think that we have customers that are in that space, including a number of the large exchanges. But I don't think that there are any of them that would crack being a top 10 customer. And I think as a whole, I don't know the exact exposure, Thomas may be able to add to it. But I will say that it's not significant enough that it has been brought up as a big risk item internally. So, I think that we have always had -- I mean, I personally have never -- there's a lot of religion around the crypto space, where people are either hyperly pro crypto or hyperly against crypto. I feel like I'm the only kind of agnostic on crypto, where I don't think we have bet heavily on it. But at the same time, we've definitely made sure that if there are things that emerge from it, that we're in a position to take advantage of those. But that has not been a meaningful headwind to us.

Yes. And maybe some color. Our exposure to crypto was less than -- was single -- mid-single digits in percent of revenue, under 5% for the second quarter. So, not a big -- an interesting part in terms of the size and the amount of customers but not a big exposure to revenue.

Understood. And Thomas, maybe one for you, question on elongated sales cycle. I know it's a bit tricky, it differs from customer to customer. But maybe can you generalize for us how long -- how much are these cycles being elongated? Are we talking two weeks, three weeks, more than that? How could we be thinking about it? The word elongated is a very, very general term.

Well, I would say for the main part of our business, we are still far below 90 days from a sales cycle perspective. So, when we talk about elongated sales cycles, it's in the upper end of our cohorts where you look at the bucket, $500,000 to $1 million of ACV where it's moving out. But there, it's moving out by weeks, not by days.

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Fatima Boolani with Citi.

Matthew or Thomas, jump all for either one of you. Thinking about the shift to pay-as-you-go customers, some of your observations and commentary around elongating deal cycles that you just addressed. I'm curious if you can just sort of take a step back and bifurcate for us how new logo land purchasing and procurement behavior has changed versus expansion or installed base expansion customer behavior has changed over the last three months. And maybe if you can help contextualize this or put this under the lens of your product pillars, whether there is more or less usage or slower adoption of certain pillars versus others and certainly against the hardware supply chain constraint backdrop that we're in right now.

Sure. So, as I said in the prepared remarks, I think that it has gotten harder to sign up a new logo since the beginning of the year, but it's actually gotten easier to talk to our existing customers about using more of their platform -- more of our platforms in order to solve the problems that they have. And so, I think that that where we benefit is because we have such a broad product portfolio that allows us even in these times where signing up new logos is hard. We can go to our existing customers and have a conversation about how we can simplify their IT stack, how we can save them money, how we can make them more secure. And I think that that's attractive. So, we're still signing up plenty of new logos. But I think that on balance, it has definitely gotten harder to sign up new logos and it has gotten easier to have conversations about expanding usage of our platform and especially adopting different products that are part of our platform. In terms of what products are -- how the mix of products is changing, I think security continues to be top of mind that -- I think that there was real kind of concern around when the Russian invasion of Ukraine happened that there would be attacks that went out from Russia in retaliation against western companies. That actually did not materialize in Q1, the way I think a lot of people thought it would. But we started to see more of that start to materialize in Q2. It's still -- I wouldn't call it a trend yet, but we're seeing more companies come under attack and turning to us when that happens. And so, I think this is an environment where security products do very well. And across our security portfolio, we're seeing strength.

Your next question comes from the line of Joel Fishbein with Truist.

Matthew, at Analyst Day, you talked about acts in these large markets that Cloudflare is to go after, notwithstanding the macro environment, current macro environment. Is there anything that has changed in your philosophy about these big markets? And maybe you can just give us an update on these acts or large markets and where you're positioned maybe specifically around R2 and the big data that you have going on right now? Thank you.

Yes. So, we think of Cloudflare as stacking multiple adoption S curves one behind another. And so our first acts were how do we protect the infrastructure of customers around the world. And it is incredible to see how we've been able to do that successfully where today, more than 20% of all websites use our infrastructure. We're continuing to sell those products, but I think that where we are earlier in that S curve is with our Zero Trust products, and we're able to go to all of those people who adopted our application security products and now say, "Hey, we can help you with Zero Trust as well." And I think that that is the big act that we're focusing on right now. Act three for us, which I think will really start to hit in a material way around revenue in three to five years is really around Workers. And I think we have been very pleasantly surprised how that adoption has happened faster and sooner and earlier than we expected. R2, which is our object store and our Amazon S3 competitor went into public beta last quarter, and we expect that it will go into GA right at the end of Q3. And so, I think that that's an opportunity for us to do more and we continue to invest in it. And again, we think that the real durable nature of Cloudflare is that we're able to continue to stack these acts one behind another behind another.

Your next question comes from the line of Hamza Fodderwala with Morgan Stanley.

Matthew, maybe a question on the security angle for you. You talked a lot about having larger platform conversations with your existing customers. Can you comment on when you talk to CIOs, CISOs at these customers, what is their willingness to really want to transform and modernize their existing security architectures versus perhaps continuing to refresh their existing on-premise date?

Yes. I mean I think Morgan Stanley is a great Cloudflare customer, and we have a terrific relationship with the CIO team over there, and it's definitely an organization that has been willing to embrace change. And we -- I think that that's a big piece. And I think that most organizations today understand that they have to make that change, and they're very willing to have that conversation. I think the thing that has changed to some extent is even those organizations that thought they could continue to invest in on-premise hardware are finding the current situation very difficult, where if you want to get a new firewall today, the lead times can be 9 months before you get it. And at the same time, the firewall vendors are raising their prices. And so, I think that a lot of -- in the results, a lot of the sort of that RPO you saw in the traditional firewall vendors was people basically holding their place in line. But it's not a way to make customers happy, telling them they have to pay more and then delaying when the product is going to be there. And so even for some of the organizations that traditionally had said, "We don't believe in the cloud or we don't believe in moving in this direction," I think that, that tune is starting to change, and it's becoming very much the minority opinion that you can solve these problems with on-premise hardware.

Your next question comes from the line of Adam Borg with Stifel.

Maybe just for Thomas, I think you talked in the script about being more judicious and slowing hiring in the back half of the year. And maybe I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about which areas are still prioritized in terms of hiring and which ones you're kind of slowing a bit more. Thanks so much.

Yes. So, we grew quite a bit employee headcount wise in the second quarter. We said we take the velocity down quite a bit. We still prioritize go-to-market open positions and protecting people moving into the second half. So, the slowdown is in G&A and some of their R&D functions, but go-to-market is still going to continue to hire.

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Nowinski with Wells Fargo.

Great. Maybe just a follow-up question on the operating income for the year. Your loss in Q2 is actually better than your guidance. I think you just said you're slowing hiring in the second half of the year. So, I assume the reason you lowered your operating income for the full year fiscal '22 was due to the Area 1 acquisition. And if so, could you just pull that out? Maybe tell us what your organic revenue and operating income would have been outside of that acquisition?

Yes. I don't want to give more -- much more specific than the color we gave on our -- in our script. But it is true with a couple of moving parts. Without the continued investment in Area 1, we would have been operating margin positive, probably more in the single-digit, mid-digit million dollar range for the second quarter.

And I assume the operating guidance for the year would have gone up in absence of that acquisition then?

We gave guidance for the quarter that took into account a lot of variables, and I am not going to parcel out now with the specific impact of Area 1 would have been -- if we hadn't done that acquisition. So, guidance is the holistic picture on many things that move, and you should take it as that.

Your next question comes from the line of Trevor Walsh with JMP Securities.

Matthew, maybe a quick one for you around your comments around DBNR. You mentioned your aspirational goal of 130%. What do you think is -- how do you get there? Is it kind of a function kind of where you're right now based on macroeconomics and just what's going on in terms of budgets, or is there something internally that you guys are looking to maybe change and/or kind of refocus efforts on in order to drive that number up? Thanks.

Yes. I think that it really is for us about how we bundle products together. Today, 29% of the Fortune 1000 are already Cloudflare customers. If you fast forward with that, I think that a very significant percentage of the Fortune 1000 are going to be customers. And so, what we really want to focus on is how do we get them to use more of our platform. And what I think is unique about Cloudflare is we've already got the products in place where we can have those customers adopt our -- more and more our platform. There is not a single customer that uses every single feature of Cloudflare's platform today in terms of a contracted customer. And so, I think that's where we really see that growing. And I think that's a very healthy way to expand spend with customers is to become more and more critical. What we want to be is the network that the Fortune 1000 relies on for connecting to the internet, making sure that they're secure, making sure that their employees have the best experience possible and making sure that no matter what happens, they're always going to be online.

Your next question comes from the line of James Breen with William Blair.

Could you just talk a little bit about the CapEx? It's up a bit this quarter, a little bit higher than the guidance for the year, the range for the year. And how you think about that spending going forward? And maybe some of the puts and takes on cash flow relative to top line growth and where are areas where you can generate cash without too greatly impacting the top line? Thanks.

Maybe I could start on CapEx. I mean, we're going to stay within the range that we guided for the year. We said before, you will see variability quarter-to-quarter just in terms of how we purchase, where we see opportunity to pull in spend and make sure that we maneuver ourselves smartly around the supply chain disruptions you see. This is pretty much driving the variability quarter-to-quarter, but we will stay within the range we guided for the year. From a free cash flow perspective, we said we have a lot of levers at hand. One of the biggest levers is moving to annual billing for our large customers. We are, from a company history perspective coming from a pay-as-you-go business where people gave us a credit card even at the beginning of the second quarter, the majority of our revenue was monthly billing. So, we've made first ride into that direction of annual billing. And there is a lot of opportunities still in front of us. So this, I would say, is the biggest lever, but we run a pretty holistic cash conversion project across the Company that looks into literally anything that can positively impact free cash flow generation. And it's a cross-functional project, and it's -- we're making good progress, and you saw that already reflected in the second quarter numbers.

Your next question comes from the line of Gray Powell with BTIG.

All right. Great. Thanks for taking the question. Congratulations for the -- on the strong results. So, yes, Matt, you called out the Fortune 500 energy company where you replaced Zscaler. And then you talked about some other similar wins. I just want to make sure I have it correct. Are those mainly on the ZTNA side with Cloudflare Access, or were there some gateway wins as well? And then, maybe can you just drill into a little bit more and talk about like why you won. Is it more on price, technology or a combination of those?

Yes. So, when we sell our Zero Trust solutions, we really believe that the pieces all fit together. And so those are typically wins. Sometimes somebody will just -- will just adopt one portion of the solution, but we really like to sell that holistic solution and see how all of the pieces fit together. In terms of where we win, I think what we hear from the space is that our products are significantly more performant. We have a much more holistic solution where we can protect mobile devices in a way that a lot of the other providers can't. We can work across the geographies. When I was, this time last year, traveling in Africa using our products, they worked great, whereas most people in the space don't have that broad of a network that can deliver that. And I think that we are just able to scale much more significantly. We have literally two orders of magnitude, more capacity to be able to handle the forward proxy traffic across us than any of the other providers in the space. And I think that that's why we've been able to displace some companies that have used -- that have tried to adopt Zscaler and found it less user-friendly and that it generated a lot of IT support tickets. But that's really not our focus. Our focus is going after all of the on-premise firewalls and hardware and VPNs that exist in the universe. And so, I think they can be successful and we can be successful, but I think we have a better product. And over time, I think that will help us win.

Your final question today comes from the line of Brent Thill with Jefferies.

Matthew, on Area 1, I know it's early, but can you give us an update of what you're seeing there? And I guess, again, on the last question, can I squeeze one in at the end? Thanks.

The Area 1 tech is amazing. So, the product, we're seeing really great wins from very large customers. And we think of that product as being a gateway to help with people on their Zero Trust journey. If you think about e-mail, the nature of it is it enumerates the employee directory of an organization, and it very much then helps us sell the other Zero Trust products that we have, and so that conversation is going well. It's also a conversation that is going well in terms of talking to our existing customers. It turns out everybody has got a phishing problem. It is for most of our customers, one click to sign up and test whether or not Area 1 can result in that. And so, we're seeing $1 million-plus wins that close in -- oftentimes in a matter of days or a short number of weeks, which is just -- because we can just prove how successful that is. I think beyond that, Area 1 has helped us in a number of other ways. One, as I mentioned earlier, is that they had a much more sophisticated channel program, which has now helped develop our channel program, and I think we're really thankful for that team being on board. And then, the third, which I think you'll hear us talk about more going forward is that they have a really world-class threat intelligence team. And that, I think, will turn into more products across our entire platform. And because I like you Brent, I'll let you have one more question.

I appreciate that. You've had the crystal ball and everyone appreciates your candor, and I think you were the first one to come out and say, hey, things are feeling a little different than they felt. I was just trying to understand, when you look at the perspective of what's happening now, you mentioned things have stabilized. I mean, I just want to make sure we understand from your perspective, it hasn't gotten worse. It's come in that your -- the stabilization trend that you're seeing, have you seen that extend into July and the rest of the summer. What's your sense of kind of the trajectory from where things came in, where are you at now?

Yes, you got me in trouble with a lot of my peers at your conference, where I said that the economy was not as rosy as people think, and I think you've heard a lot of those folks echo those comments now in Q2. Let me be clear. I think that the economy is still in really rough shape. And I don't know -- and again, I'm not a member of the -- I'm not an economist. But from what we hear from customers, customers are really still suffering, And the economy, I wouldn't say that the economy itself has stabilized. What I would say is we have had the flexibility in our business to be able to adapt to a very difficult environment. That environment continues to be difficult, and I think it will be difficult at least through the rest of the year. But being able to deliver products that deliver real value, have an incredible ROI, can save customers' money and are must haves, not nice to haves, puts us in an incredibly powerful position. And as I said in the prepared remarks, I would not trade places with any other CEO.

This concludes our Q&A portion of the call. Matthew Prince, I turn the call back to you.

So, I'd like to, first of all, thank a bunch of the students from the Berklee School of Music to let us use some of their new and original songs for the hope music, going, going in. So, hopefully those of you who tuned in the call early, you appreciated that. I also want to thank the analysts for actually asking Thomas some questions this time. Usually, I get all the questions. Thanks to our team and all of our customers. We've got our hands on the wheel, our eyes on the road, and we'll see you all back here next quarter.

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.