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Q2 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, Dec 20, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to NIKE's Fiscal 2013 Second Quarter Conference Call. For those who need to reference today's press release, you'll find it at https://investors.nikeinc.com. Leading today's call is Kelley Hall, Vice President, Treasury and Investor Relations. Before I turn the call over to Ms. Hall, let me remind you that participants on this call will make forward-looking statements based on current expectations, and those statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in the reports filed with the SEC, including forms 8-K, 10-K and 10-Q. Some forward-looking statements concern future orders that are not necessarily indicative of changes in total revenues for subsequent periods due to a mix of futures and at-once orders, exchange rate fluctuations, order cancellations, discounts and returns, which may vary significantly from quarter-to-quarter. In addition, it is important to remember a significant portion of NIKE Inc.'s continuing operations, including equipment, NIKE Golf, converse and Hurley are not included in these futures numbers. Finally, participants may discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including references to wholesale equivalent sales. References to total wholesale equivalent sales are only intended to provide context as to the overall current market footprints of the brands owned by NIKE, Inc. and should not be relied upon as a financial measure of actual results. Participants may also make references to other nonpublic financial and statistical information and non-GAAP financial measures. Discussion of nonpublic financial and statistical information and presentations of comparable GAAP measures and quantitative reconciliations can be found at NIKE's website, https://investors.nikeinc.com. Now I would like to turn the call over to Kelley Hall, Vice President, Treasury and Investor Relations.

Kelley Hall

Operator

Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss NIKE's fiscal 2013 second quarter results. As the operator indicated, participants on today's call may discuss non-GAAP financial measures. You will find the appropriate reconciliations in our press release, which was issued about an hour ago, and at our website, investors.nikeinc.com. Also, I would like to emphasize to everyone that today's discussion of our NIKE, Inc. Q2 results will be focused on our continuing operations. As we reported in our Q2 press release, we closed the sale of the Umbro brand in Q2 and are in the process of completing the sale of Cole Haan. And as a result, both of these businesses are classified as discontinued operations. Unless otherwise specified, all of our comments today will address the results and outlook of our continuing operations. With that, I would like to introduce our participants for today's call. NIKE, Inc. President and CEO, Mark Parker, will speak first; followed by Charlie Denson, President of the NIKE Brand; and finally, you will hear from our Chief Financial Officer, Don Blair, who will give you an in-depth review of our financial results. Following their prepared remarks, we will take your questions. [Operator Instructions] Thanks for your cooperation on this. I'll now turn the call over to NIKE, Inc. President and CEO, Mark Parker.

Mark G. Parker

Analyst

Thanks, Kelley, and happy holidays, everybody. Our strong Q2 results and first half performance demonstrates that our strategies are working. For NIKE, everything starts with the consumer. Their insights enable us to innovate and this expands the power of our portfolio and sharpens our focus on the biggest growth opportunities. And that's how we deliver value to our shareholders. Our Q2 numbers show the right kind of momentum as we head into the back half of the year. NIKE, Inc.'s second quarter revenues were up 7%. Excluding changes in currency, revenues were up 10%. And that growth was well balanced across all brands, key NIKE brand categories and nearly all geographies. Gross margin was down 30 basis points, better than projected and diluted earnings per share growth outpaced revenue growth, up 11% to $1.14. The global economy is increasingly complex and volatile. The pace of change is accelerated. As leaders of a global company, we need to understand the risks and the opportunity brought by this change. Even more than that, we must remain focused squarely on our business. It's that balance that allows us to create and expand profitable long-term growth, even in challenging conditions. As I look forward to the remainder of fiscal 2013 and beyond, I want to highlight 3 key drivers of shareholder value: first, our ability to connect and innovate with consumers; second, the power of our portfolio; and third, our ability to leverage both those strategic advantages to deliver sustainable, profitable growth. For the first driver, shareholder value, let's start where we always do, and that's with the consumer and innovation. We're proud of the breakthrough innovations we've delivered across our portfolio, like Flyknit, FuelBand, Lunar, Free, the NFL products, Pro Combat, Considered Design and many more. And we have even more great opportunities…

Charles D. Denson

Analyst

Thank you, Mark. I'm very bullish on what we continue to see out of the NIKE Brand, and Q2 was no different. Innovative must-have products, strong connections with consumers and another quarter of transforming distribution with our retailers and our own DTC business. We are able to consistently grow because we identify and resource our biggest opportunities. Mark mentioned this in his comments. It's about power of the portfolio. It's the same flexibly and opportunity that defines NIKE, Inc. It also empowers the NIKE Brand. Q2 was a great example. A strong quarter overall was the major successes in key businesses around the world. On a constant currency basis, the NIKE Brand global revenue was up 11%. We saw growth across all key categories and all geographies, except China. NIKE Brand DTC revenue increased 27%, driven by a 16% comp store growth and a strong increase in online sales. Footwear and Apparel grew at 10% apiece and global futures expanded 7%. So let's talk about how that's playing out in some key parts of the NIKE Brand. Specifically, let's look at North America, China and the Emerging Markets, along with a couple of the key categories. North America. We've seen a strong -- we've seen a run of strong double-digit growth quarters in this market, and the momentum continued in Q2 with revenues growing at 17%. Nearly every category was up, led by double-digit growth in Running, Basketball and Men's Training. Footwear revenue increased 13% and apparel grew 19%. North America is a case study in leveraging our strengths in both product, brand, as well as distribution. In product, look at the NFL. It was the most anticipated launches in football and in this market in years. That alone says a lot about our role as an innovator. We delivered…

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

Thanks, Charlie. Our results so far this year demonstrate the strength of our business and the effectiveness of our strategies. In every day the business press is filled with a litany of risks, from political instability and economic volatility, to rapid changes in market dynamics. Both the opportunities and the risks we face are truly unprecedented. As Mark said earlier, we need to be mindful of the risks that continue to drive forward against sharply-focused strategies to create shareholder value. I'd like to start by outlining 3 ways we strike that balance. First, continuing to deliver a strong profitability and increasing cash returns to shareholders. Second, making focused investments in strategies that will deliver future growth. And third, staying strong and nimble to manage risk. So far this year, our global portfolio of businesses has delivered strong growth, despite softness in key markets like China, Iberia and Italy. And we've continued to increase cash returns to shareholders through consistent share repurchases and higher dividends. At the same time, we're investing heavily in strategies that we're confident will deliver continued growth. We're expanding our Direct to Consumer businesses, generating significant incremental revenue and profits. We're investing to transform the wholesale marketplace, with category shop and shop concepts in developed markets and partnered doors in developing ones. We're leading our industry into the digital world, creating compelling products and experiences that help athletes at all levels perform better, and we're delivering product innovation to consumers at an unprecedented pace and scale. We are confident these investments will deliver profitable growth, and we'll continue to make them. At the same time, we're mindful of the risks we face, along with every other global company. To better manage those risks, we've built a broad portfolio of businesses, maintained a strong balance sheet and focused…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Kate McShane with Citigroup.

Kate McShane - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

My first question is on the gross margins during the quarter. Can you tell us what the difference was between what you had been expecting for Q2 and where you ended up during the quarter?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

Well first of all, I have to start by saying that on a business where we're operating in almost 200 countries and across all the different styles and product types, 50 basis points is kind of in the margin of error. But bottom line was, we had pretty strong performance from the price increases we've taken over the last few seasons, and as I indicated, the combination of that and easing raw material costs is now offsetting some ongoing inflation in labor. We were only slightly down year-on-year, and a lot of that has to do with mix changes and currency. So bottom line is, we feel great about the trendline we're on in gross margin, I think its playing out as we expected it to. Our ability to forecast this thing with all the moving parts we have, I think this is pretty good shooting. And as you know, we don't manage one line out of the P&L. We manage the whole thing. So we're pretty pleased at how the second quarter came out.

Kate McShane - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, that's great, and then my second question has to do with China. I really appreciate all the detail Charlie walked us through with regards to all the strategies you're employing in China currently. And I was just wondering, it sounds like you're in the very early stages of doing a lot of the category offense. When can we start to see that be a little bit more prolific in the region, and when do you think that will start to contribute more effectively to any kind of inflection in the growth rate in China?

Charles D. Denson

Analyst

Yes, I think, Kate, it's early in the game as we stated in the remarks. We feel really good about what we're doing and how we're doing it. We're seeing great results in the specific locations that we've started to move forward to. So I think as we scale it, where you start to see the impact, it's hard for me to pick a quarter or a date, I would expect to see an increasing level of performance on a broader basis as we move down, quarter-to-quarter. So the goal obviously here is to be decisive and move quickly as we can. We've talked about that, the last 2 calls. I think some of the actions that we took over the last 90 days lead me to believe that we're moving both at an increased pace and in the right direction. The sooner we can get towards this market differentiation, consumer differentiation in the marketplace, the better off we're going to be, and we're taking early, small steps, but you can expect that to accelerate as we move forward.

Mark G. Parker

Analyst

And Kate, one other thing, too, that I want to highlight about Charlie's remarks, one of the reasons why we talked about some of the underlying productivity metrics in the marketplace is that as we really differentiate the marketplace and build that platform for long-term growth, you won't necessarily see it in the headline numbers over the next few quarters. As Charlie said, we expect that to get better, but one of the things we're really focused on, is those underlying productivity metrics that are telling us that we're getting it right in the marketplace with the consumer, and that's why we're giving you that level of visibility.

Charles D. Denson

Analyst

Yes, I'll add 2 points, Kate, because China's obviously a big topic of conversation. One is, the emphasis on working with the space that we have and making that space better, more productive and more profitable, and we think, probably a little bit bigger on a per location basis to storytell the way we do, so we're very good -- we're excited about that. And the other one is, focusing on the high end, the premium positioning of the brand. And we're going to continue to do that as we move forward as well.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from Michael Binetti with UBS.

Michael Binetti - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS.

And Don, just a minute, I want to ask you on the gross margins, but also want to congratulate you there. I know it's been a long road with some of the volatility over the last few years, so it looks like it's starting to pay out, so congrats there. As we look back in time a little bit, you see gross margins peak out in about 2010. Obviously that was at the end of several years of currency going the right way. But if you look at that as where you peaked on past, how confident are you that you can get back there, if you are? And how long do you think it takes on a longer-term basis, as we look at our models?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst · UBS.

Well, I think, trying to do this from a modeling standpoint is not exactly how we think about this. I mean, what we do is, we're focused on the key drivers that differentiate our product and our brand in the marketplace. A great example of that is the innovation that we bring into the marketplace. That is one of the things that lets you move your margins up because you've got premium differentiated product that the consumer's looking for and not everybody else has it. So our approach to growing margins has been focused on those basic fundamental levers of moving margins higher. We're confident we can continue to do that over the long period of time. Trying to pick a date or a destination point, given all the volatility there is in the world, is not something that we try to do.

Michael Binetti - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS.

Okay, and I guess that's a good point. The -- you now have the futures, at least in the U.S. lapping a pretty big price increase last February, yet the futures orders here accelerated in the quarter. Can you just tell us about what the units versus pricing breakdown in the U.S. futures number looks like?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst · UBS.

Well, not doing it geography by geography, but the unit -- actually, Kelley, do you have that number?

Kelley Hall

Operator

Yes.

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

I just don't have it off the top of my head.

Kelley Hall

Operator

Futures?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

The units versus price. All, right, we'll come back to you on that, Michael.

Michael Binetti - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, and I think you had a shift on the China Apparel business last year. Could you tell us what the revenues in futures would have been in China, without that nonrecurring headwind from the Apparel comparison last year?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

I don't think that's a material driver of the trendline in China for this quarter, Michael.

Kelley Hall

Operator

So Michael, for the futures orders, the 7% on a currency neutral basis was a 4-point increase in units, and a 3-point increase in average price per unit.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from Omar Saad with ISI Group.

Omar Saad - ISI Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · ISI Group.

I wanted to see -- I thought you had some interesting comments around the Basketball business, seeing a bit of a renaissance there. I know it's not as big of a category as Running is, but wanted to see if you could elaborate on that. I especially was interested in the fact that you're seeing something going on in Europe there as well. Is it core Basketball junkies? Are you seeing, maybe a little bit of a broader, kind of acceptance of the basketball shoe? And did it come at the expense of Running, or how should we think about that as that gains steam?

Charles D. Denson

Analyst · ISI Group.

Hi, Omar, this is Charlie. Hey, I'm going to take that, actually from a couple of different angles and give you some examples. First of all, the performance side of the business is very strong, and we're seeing some really great sell-throughs at retail on some of the new marquee product. And so that always makes us feel good. We always feel like we're headed in the right direction with that premium product. I think the other things that are starting to -- that you're starting to see is, a, a little bit more interest in basketball in Europe, we're excited about that, and that is coming at both the performance level, as well as an influence in sportswear. You're starting to see -- the basketball silhouettes outside the United States is becoming a little stronger. We're seeing styles like the Blazer in Western Europe becoming a very, very big franchise business for us, from a silhouette standpoint, and it's even creeping into the Women's business, whereas the Dunk Too High [ph] is a new shoe on the Women's side that is becoming, quite frankly, becoming a bit of a phenomena around the world. And s, we're very excited to see the influence of basketball becoming more influential around the world, both on the performance side as well as the sportswear side. So it's -- with our position in basketball, it bodes well for us over the near and mid-term.

Omar Saad - ISI Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · ISI Group.

That's helpful. I wanted to ask you, you made some interesting comments upfront about digital and the importance of that as one of the key pillars of Nike's opportunity to create shareholder value. As you think about e-commerce, how do you balance the Internet, and how the brand operates on the Internet, between kind of creating consumer connections and developing that relationship almost as a marketing vehicle, versus the commercial side of the business, where you drive it, as you utilize it and lever it is a profit driver. And I'd probably venture a guess that you guys are probably underpenetrated in terms of Internet as a sales mix, relative to some other discretionary brands out there. But I just want to see how you're thinking about that.

Mark G. Parker

Analyst · ISI Group.

Yes, this is Mark, speaking. It's all interrelated to your comment. Both the commerce side, the communications piece, the social networking that, we have a 2-way dialogue with the consumer. We enabled consumers to talk to each other. We are strengthening the relationship we have with the consumer. Certainty, just through our communications, but also through the commerce side of things. And then, of course, the product and the services piece, which is in its infancy stages right now. But we expect big things out of that piece of our business. But the point is, this is all interrelated. And this is exactly how we're managing this part of our business. We have groups that are highly focused on each of these segments, but we also work this as a unified portfolio. And we see this is really the way that we're going to increase the power of the connection with the consumer, and then, to your point on the e-commerce piece is, we're going to drive a huge commercial opportunity in, yes, I think an underpenetrated channel for NIKE. But it's a real holistic view of the digital world and how it applies to NIKE and the massive potential that represents. These aren't separate silos. These are interrelated, and again, that's exactly how we're managing it.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from Jim Duffy with Stifel, Nicolaus. Jim Duffy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc., Research Division: Don, can I ask you to speak to the balance of the futures across of the futures window? And then, the 3 points of price in the futures, has that benefit run its course, or would you expect there to be a longer tail on that going forward as you emphasize the premium end of the brand?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

Well the futures are more frontloaded, and as I talked about in the guidance section, we are overlapping last year's fourth quarter with quite a bit of Euro Champs and Olympics business in there. So we've got stronger growth in the front part of the window. With respect to pricing, one of the things we also spoke to is that we do believe that we think there's price opportunity out there on a season-by-season basis. We do not expect to be doing this across the board. Across the majority of the line, we think it's really more of a customer value equation assessment, where style by style, we're looking at the pricing. And particularly behind innovation, we think there's opportunity to move price up. But I don't think you're going to see the kinds of broad pricing actions going forward that you saw from us 1.5 years ago. Jim Duffy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc., Research Division: Got you, okay. And then, Charlie, can you elaborate some on the changes to the apparel direction in China, particularly the new silhouette for the consumer, and some of the performance direction of that product line that's resonating?

Charles D. Denson

Analyst

Yes, I think, well -- one of the things, and we've talked about this in previous calls, the majority of our inventory issue in China is built -- basically built around a lot of the apparel product. And one of the things that we felt pretty strongly about was some of the fit opportunities we had in the marketplace. For holiday, and I alluded to that in the commentary, we started to move some of that new fit product into the market. It does not, by any means, represent even anywhere close to 100% that's in the market today, but it is very quickly becoming a higher percentage of the line as we move into spring, and then on into summer. The response that we're seeing there, both from a, obviously a sell-through standpoint, and the way we've been a little bit more focused around the Chinese consumer silhouette-wise, that new product is moving through the marketplace at a very nice pace. And we're very, very comfortable with it, and quite frankly, happy with it. We've got to get more and more of that part of the apparel line into the marketplace, which the plan is to do as we move forward into spring and summer.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from Eric Tracy with Janney Capital.

Eric B. Tracy - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Janney Capital.

I guess just a quick point of clarification, I want to make sure I heard correctly on the guidance, up low double digits revenue growth in 3Q. Is that constant currency or reported?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst · Janney Capital.

That's constant. And we gave guidance for the fourth quarter of mid-single digit, and for both of them, the difference between constant and reported, we think will be about down 1 percentage point versus the constant currency numbers, consistent with our futures.

Eric B. Tracy - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Janney Capital.

Okay. And then turning to -- in the product pipeline, obviously you've had a ton of great innovation, expect that to continue, you mentioned digital. Maybe specifically, as it relates to Flyknit, certainly a really big opportunity, but maybe help us think about the cadence, how that business ramps from a top line perspective in terms of incremental distribution? And how we should think that from a volume basis, maybe over the next 12 months? And then certainly from a profitability perspective, what type of scale do you need in terms of really getting a nice margin that's given -- that it doesn't have labor, or very little labor associated with it?

Mark G. Parker

Analyst · Janney Capital.

Yes, this is Mark. I'm going to jump in on that. The Flyknit as you said, we're quite bullish on that opportunity. I think it's going to take a little while, meaning 12-plus months or so to really get this to a meaningful scale in terms of some of those numbers that are going to have a more dramatic impact on the units and the overall margin numbers. We are very bullish on -- of scaling the manufacturing capability, the capacity. There is obviously, from our vantage point, a huge consumer appetite for this product, so we're balancing the aggressiveness to close that gap and meet that demand, and make sure that we're not getting out ahead of ourselves. So we don't -- we're not creating excess demand that we can't meet in the marketplace. So I think it's going to take -- it's going to ramp up consistently and aggressively over the next 12 months and beyond. And I think you'll continue to see this become frankly, a bigger and bigger percentage of our total footwear focus. And it'll expand, I think dramatically from a category basis as well. Many of our innovations really start in Running. And then they move and are leveraged into other categories. And Flyknit is certainly no exception. Some of the most dramatic and innovative and exciting product that I've seen behind the door there, that I can't really get into with you all right now, is in this Flyknit area and across some of the other categories. So it's a huge part of our future, and I think from a units and a margin standpoint, you'll see that continue to get bigger and bigger.

Donald W. Blair

Analyst · Janney Capital.

Just to answer the second part of your question, on the financials, just want to make sure, I make 2 points, one is, this is an upper technology. We are really bullish on what the potential is here. At this point, it is half the shoe, if you will. And so we're working on putting all of the pieces together. So I want to put that in that context. The second thing is that, the trendline we've seen consistently as we launch new technologies is that, we launch them, and then we work our way down the cost curve. So our products tend to get more profitable the longer we work with that particular technology, and we believe Flyknit will certainly be consistent with that.

Eric B. Tracy - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Janney Capital.

Okay, and then if I could, just quickly in terms of your wholesale partners, you obviously had great gains domestically in terms of the shop in shops, be it Dick's Field House, Nike -- The Track Club at Finish Line and House of Hoops. Sort of where do you stand in terms of that, what maybe what inning, in terms of penetration, kind of the incremental opportunity be it in those doors or sort of other areas that continue to sort of drive productivity with those wholesale partners?

Charles D. Denson

Analyst · Janney Capital.

Yes, this is Charlie. Well, I'm going to -- I guess, if I understand your question, one of the things that obviously we can do is more of them here in the U.S. Now we used those examples because most of the group is most familiar with those examples here in the US. We actually have a lot of that type of activity going on in other markets around the world. We have some great soccer or football spaces in Europe that are performing extremely well, and we're very excited about scaling those, along with the examples that we've given you in the U.S. The other thing that it provides us is great learnings that we take to a market like China or Korea in a mono brand space, where we can really take the category offense and use the amplified execution in performance, Training and sportswear, to really bring productivity and profitability to the mono brand spaces that we have in marketplaces like that. And so, some of the references that we've made in China some of the things we're starting to do in places like Shanghai, is starting to bring some of that category focus into these spaces that -- and we're seeing a lift, both from a consumer response standpoint, and obviously from a productivity and profitability standpoint.

Operator

Operator

And your last question comes from Sam Poser with Sterne Agee. Sam Poser - Sterne Agee & Leach Inc., Research Division: I just wonder, could you -- I just -- a little more on Flyknit. You did over [indiscernible] a while, you say it's $1 billion wholesale platform, Lunar you've said in the past, is well over a $2 billion retail platform. It took you 4 years to get Lunar there. Is Free as -- excuse me, is Flyknit as big an opportunity? And how does it cross categories? Does it has to -- does the idea have stability enough to make a Flyknit basketball shoe, I mean, down the road, or is it more Running-oriented? You talked a little bit about that.

Mark G. Parker

Analyst

I'll talk -- this is Mark, again. I'll talk a little bit about that, but not too much, for hopefully obvious reasons. Let me say I am incredibly bullish, I mean, I'm a product -- self-admitted product geek here, and very important, not only to me, but this company, it's the basis of our success. So we're very discriminating on new technologies like Flyknit. And feel this is one of those technologies that has incredibly massive potential, let me put it that way. Not only within Running, as I said before, but across multiple categories. What form that takes, you'll see. I mean, that's all I can say. It'll-- you can't judge the applicability of Flyknit based on the products that you've seen to date. This technology has tremendous potential, tremendous possibilities, and as I said, some of the most exciting product we have in the pipeline is involving the use of Flyknit technology. And as Charlie mentioned in his note, the impact on performance, on the aesthetic, on sustainability, all these factors are tremendous. And again, well beyond Running. Sam Poser - Sterne Agee & Leach Inc., Research Division: And it sounds to me as if you're working on a sort of an official Flyknit coordinating outsole technology. I mean that's just sort of, what you sort of implied. Am I down the right road there as well?

Mark G. Parker

Analyst

No comment.

Charles D. Denson

Analyst

You've gotten -- you've probably got Mark right up to as far -- close to the edge as you're going to get him. But if he's a self-professed product geek, I guess, I'm known as one of the more commercial-minded guys around here. But I think that I would only echo all of the commentary in the sense that, I think we've both been around here a long time. We've seen a lot of innovation come and go through this place, and I think Flyknit represents one of those bigger opportunities that we all get so excited about. So, and one thing that I think we've overemphasized too, is that we feel that strongly about it, we're going to manage it, and we're going to ramp it at appropriate level, both the way it ramps commercially and the way that you'd see it transform the way that footwear is used by the athlete. So it's exciting times. Sam Poser - Sterne Agee & Leach Inc., Research Division: And then lastly, on the SG&A, with the man [ph] creation, when we're looking at next quarter in absolute dollars, how should we think about that in absolute dollars?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

Well, I think the best thing to do, Sam, is just go back to the guidance we gave around SG&A growth. I think that's the best way to model it. Sam Poser - Sterne Agee & Leach Inc., Research Division: Okay, so some of that's going to push over from Q2 into Q3?

Donald W. Blair

Analyst

But the guidance that we gave you includes that factor. So just the guidance we gave is all in.

Kelley Hall

Operator

All right, thank you, everyone. Have a happy holidays, and we'll talk to you after the New Year.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.