Howard Robin
Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open
Yes, also excellent question. I think this. Let's deal with the scheduling first. Clearly our goal is Schedule 3 or better. And the data that we have so far and the multifactor analysis that we've done clearly supports that. Obviously, I can't predict what the agency or the DEA will say there. But clearly, we believe that Schedule 3 is appropriate and that's the way we're moving this program forward. Even in the absence of Schedule 3 though, even if it's Schedule 2 labeling, it's still if you look at the limited opportunities for abuse and the better quality of life and less somnolence, better sleep quality, less physical -- no physical and psychological dependence. Regardless of the scheduling, it is still a much, much better molecule and a solution for the opioid problem. So I can't predict scheduling, but we're looking at Schedule 3 or better quite frankly. Now in terms of the approval based upon 1 success -- highly successful Phase III study, look, again, I can't give you any guarantees that that we are successful with that. I mean, we have to have those discussions with the agency. Discussions we've had with experts over the past year have clearly suggested that because we know what this molecule is -- I mean, there is no secret as to what this molecule is. The core molecule is an opioid. We know it gets into the CNS, we know the rate it gets into the CNS, we know exactly how it works and mechanistically how it behaves, we also know that it has excellent analgesia and we will have the HAL study or the HAP study to back up the fact that it's not likable. And quite frankly, given the severity of the opioid crisis in the United States, it is hard to imagine that there is a great reason for not allowing this drug to be available based upon one Phase III study. The long-term safety study is essentially complete and the data there look great. There is no long-term safety issues either. So mechanism is well understood, behavior of the molecule is well understood, the attributes of this molecule do really solve the opioid abuse problem. Can't guarantee that one trial, one Phase III study does it. I mean certainly even if there -- I would imagine that it'd be an obligation for follow-up studies post marketing, post approval. But is 1 trial sufficient to get approved, it should be. But of course, I can't guarantee that and it's up to the agency to make that decision.