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Operator
Operator
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the North American Construction Group Earnings Call for the Second Quarter Ended June 30, 2022. This company wishes to confirm that todayâs comments contain forward-looking information and that actual results could differ materially from a conclusion, forecast or projection contained in that forward-looking information. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in drawing conclusions or in making forecasts actions or projections that are reflected in the forward-looking information. Additional information about those material factors is containing the companyâs most recent managementâs discussion and analysis, which is available on SEDAR and EDGAR as well as on the companyâs website at nacg.ca. I will now turn the conference over to Joe Lambert, President and CEO.
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Joe Lambert
Management
Thanks, Sergio. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call today. Iâm going to start with the Q2 2022 operational performance before handing it over to Jason for the financial overview, and then I will conclude with the operational priorities and outlook for 2022, before taking your questions. In todayâs Q2 operational review, I want to give listeners some clarity on the issues affecting our business, what areas of the business are being affected, what we are doing about it, what progress we have made, and lastly, when we expect to have the issues resolved? On Slide 3, our Q2 total recordable rate of 0.51 was a 40% improvement to our Q1 stand-alone results. But the trailing 12-month remains above our industry-leading target frequency of 0.5, and we will continue focusing our efforts on further developing our green hand new hire training programs, reducing hand and lifting incidents and prevention of high potential injury events. On Slide 4, we show the 3 major issues affecting our business. The first is a good issue to have, high demand. I will speak more directly to this when we get to Slide 6, where we highlight fleet utilization. The second issue, inflationary pressures, is due to parts and labor price increases from key suppliers and vendors, which are at historical highs. These inflationary pressures are immediately increasing equipment costs, which are not yet being captured in the contract escalation clauses, which use lagging indices. Third on the list is the skilled labor shortage, which impacts our ability to promptly repair equipment. The skilled labor shortage in oil sands, in particular, has also driven a wage escalation of almost 30% for mechanics as competition for their services increases. The parts price increase impact all of our businesses, but the oil sands wage escalation…
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Jason Veenstra
Management
Thanks, Joe. The financial review begins on Slide 10 with a few of our key performance indicators. Combined revenue of $228 million represented a strong quarter for us and was generally consistent with the last 2 quarter revenues of $237 million and $235 million, respectively. This revenue consistency highlights our diversification and has culminated with trailing 12 -- trailing revenue now exceeding $900 million over the last 12 months. From a combined gross profit margin perspective, we generated 9.6% based on inflation factors that are much discussed throughout this quarterâs materials. As referenced on this slide, the 9.6% can be split into our wholly-owned businesses, which were significantly impacted by cost inflation, and , ended up posting a 7.4% gross margin. That said, our joint ventures were much better positioned to manage inflation. And based on their specific situations and strong operating performances, achieved a steady and impressive 15.7% gross margin in the quarter. Getting back to revenue. And on Slide 11. Total combined revenue for the quarter of $228 million was 30% ahead of Q2 2021. Revenue achieved in the quarter was driven by a broad listing of mine sites and business lines, which all show strong demand for our services. The remobilized fleet at the Fort Hills mine had a full quarter of operations compared to a partial quarter in Q2 2021, which was a key driver of the positive revenue variance. As you are likely aware, the commercial posture in the oil sands region is robust, and we experienced this firsthand this quarter as the focus on production means our equipment is critical to our customersâ success. DGI Trading, which we purchased in Q3 2021, as well as the sale of Haul Trucks into 1 of our joint ventures also boosted revenue this quarter. Revenue from our…
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Joe Lambert
Management
Thanks, Jason. Looking at Slide 16. This slide summarizes our priorities for 2022. Iâve addressed Item 4 as part of our response to the current macro environment. Now looking at Item 1, we are and will continue to be laser-focused on contract administration in regards to the application and accuracy of contract escalation clauses and, in particular, the local oil sands maintenance wage increases and the impact of OEM and vendor equipment parts price increases. As Iâve stated previously, we are confident that our transparency and long-standing client relationships will result in mutually acceptable resolution. We have 4 oil sands customers, and weâre in active daily discussions with all of them, and we fully expect to achieve resolution within Q3. Of the 2 remaining priorities, Item 2 detailed on Slide 17, is our ongoing efforts to ensure a well-planned and smooth start-up of our Red River Valley Alliance, Fargo-Moorhead project. The project is progressing well, and we expect to commence earthwork as planned in Q3. The equipment fleet has been procured, design work and planning are rapidly approaching construction-ready status and hiring remaining field staff and workers has commenced. We are eager to get going and look forward to the latter half of the year when we can start providing progress reports on the actual construction activity. Moving on to Slide 18. This bid pipeline slide highlights our remaining Item 3 from the priority Slide 16. Our bid pipeline remains strong, and we expect to win our fair share of their large Red Dot regional oil sands tender, and believe we will see another blue dot win outside oil sands before year-end. Demand continues to grow and the number of projects in the active tender stage, that is the second row of the bid pipeline, has doubled since Q1 for…
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Operator
Your first question comes from Yuri Lynk from Canaccord.
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Yuri Lynk
Analyst
Joe, I wanted to circle back on your discussions with your customers on the contract escalation clauses. Well, assuming youâre successful, will those be retroactive at all? Will they go back into, you say, the spring, when you started to see these really higher costs? And the second part of that question would be, whatâs assumed in your guidance for these discussions?
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Joe Lambert
Management
So weâve got an estimate on the resolution, and I think weâre conservative on that. I really want to tell you specifics. Weâre in negotiations. And I would -- Iâd like to think that we might be able to improve upon that. But essentially, weâre -- the reason for the drop down in the guidance is we do believe thereâs a timing gap. It will then have an overhang when thereâs deflation, if you would. But roughly, we think weâre probably about 2 months of overlap on that, that we arenât going to be able to recover and that would be predominantly as we incurred it in Q2. So we do think the Q3, Q4 numbers and our projection for the outlook are in line with the timing and what we think weâll get. Does that cover it off, Yuri, Iâm sorry, itâs a little bit vague in that.
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Yuri Lynk
Analyst
No, no. I understand youâre in the middle negotiations. So -- but I guess, the point would be that thereâs no kind of catch-up payment for Q2 that could conceivably boost Q3 above where it might otherwise be. It doesnât sound like thatâs the case. It sounds like youâre trying to get the costs adjusted such that the back half of the year kind of reverts to more normalized margins. Is that it?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Yes, I said that spot on Yuri.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Jacob Bout from CIBC.
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Jacob Bout
Analyst
Wanted to go back to the escalation costs. How much of these contracts can be negotiated versus itâs just systemic and we just have to deal with these indices?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Weâve done this consistently over time, both with increases and decreases. So when -- particularly in oil sands, Jacob. So the contracts we have in oil sands, theyâve been amended outside of contractual arrangements based on whatâs going on in the market. So whether we had a depressed oil price, and we are looking for ways to reduce our costs and pass on to customers, which weâve done, or, in this case, where itâs escalating, we would expect -- at any time we have unusual market conditions, both up or down, either our clients or we -- weâve approached our clients or our clients has approached us for amendments outside of the normal cycle of the contract.
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Jacob Bout
Analyst
So -- but to be clear, all -- in your view, all of these contracts should be negotiable?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Yes. And I would say weâve probably done this in the order of half a dozen times in the last 6 or 7 years.
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Jacob Bout
Analyst
Okay. And then just on the technician shortages. The -- whatâs your equipment utilization baked into the second half guidance if things return to normal or...?
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Joe Lambert
Management
It actually starts to return to normal over Q3, and we believe we can possibly improve upon that come Q4. So itâs a return to normal. We really just started gaining, Iâd say, in May and June. Thatâs where we picked up that 6% of the workforce during the quarter. It was predominantly in the latter half. So based on our projections, which I believe were reasonably conservative, we would get back to a more normal utilization over Q3. And then weâve got kind of normal into the forecast, but I do believe there could be some upside in Q4 if weâre able to progress in some of the areas better. Itâs a direct correlation between manpower and utilization right now.
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Jacob Bout
Analyst
And Iâm assuming thereâs a cost associated with attracting that new talent, like how are you competing against guys like Finning or ?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Itâs market wage for us. And I think one of the things -- the different areas weâve built upon like our Bench Hands program arenât things that a lot of other people can do. Thatâs kind of a shop-based setup and you got to have enough mass. And our apprenticeship program, itâs for somebody to be able to build up, I think weâre somewhere in the range of around 70 total apprentices. That doesnât happen overnight, especially because theyâre scattered through the years in equal distribution. So we think weâll get roughly 1/4 of that third of the 1/4 will come out of full HETs every year. So not everybody can do that. I know some of our vendors have 0 apprentices or had -- the last time I check, some had a significant amount. The Bench Hand program isnât something I hear a lot about different companies doing that. Our ability to move people around, the shop environment we have here versus the field and get work that matches, some guys might want to work longer, extended schedules that more opportunity over time in living camps or some might want to be home-based and be home every night and be more shop-based. So I think we certainly have an offer of work here. I think it matches a lot of different peopleâs work life balance and what they want to do. And I donât think a lot of others have that, even vendors.
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Jacob Bout
Analyst
Last question is just -- so you talked about 6% increase in hiring. Maybe you can just comment on what attrition has been over the first half of the year.
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Joe Lambert
Management
Well, we had about -- I actually have the numbers here. We had lots of above, Iâd say, 20-odd people total in Q1 going into April of Q2, and weâve recovered more than half of that in the May and June time frame. So -- and this was really Jacob, this was us resisting to pay those increases. We didnât see increasing wages is bringing more skilled trades into the region. And that if all youâre doing is people walking across the street, weâre not actually bringing more resources into the area. Weâre not fixing the issue. But ultimately, we start to have people leave because these are significant wage increases. This isnât somebody getting $0.50 an hour more, itâs them getting $15 an hour more. And so ultimately, we had to match it or we would keep losing people. And thatâs what we did. And then that stopped, and we were able to start recruiting again.
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Operator
Your next question comes from Bryan Fast from Raymond James.
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Bryan Fast
Analyst
Yes. Maybe just some comments on DGI. How has that part of the business performed of late? And are you seeing an increase in interest as we continue to see that tight equipment in parts market?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Yes, certainly, itâs performed as planned, slightly better, I believe, and which was a tremendous accomplishment, certainly during the pandemic and the limited ability to travel because a lot of this work is finding assets and cores that are all around the world. So travel is a pretty integral part of that business. But certainly, the demand on new equipment and people wanting to extend used equipment life longer, including ourselves, weâre one of DGIâs best customers internally. It is -- certainly bodes well for their future. We have them looking at expanding more into Canada. Thereâs a significant market here, and I think weâre going to set up a bit of a shop here for our DGI guys and be able to grow this business. So itâs not a huge top line business, but itâs certainly shown to be resilient and consistent with great opportunities for growth.
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Bryan Fast
Analyst
Okay. And I know you provided some color, but is there any reason to believe that technician availability is different from prior cycles? I mean, is this a tighter environment where your available talent pool has actually shrunk as people have left the industry?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Iâm just talking from my perception. I donât think the numbers have shrunk. I think the demand for equipment has increased, and so you got more equipment operating hours and the same amount of people. Weâre not drawing them in. So thatâs just making the ones that are there of higher value. So weâve got looking at ways we can get people from outside of the regions. And again, this is just my perception, Bryan. But I think a big -- historically, weâve been able to draw from other resource areas that were in a downturn. So whatever commodity it was, people that were working in that commodity in those regions, that were no longer working, those were areas you recruited. And thereâs not really any commodity areas down, so people arenât looking to leave whatever region theyâre in now, and thatâs really why we pushed that apprenticeship program saying we need to build our own, be it Bench Hands or premises and not count on them just coming from different areas of the country that might be a more depressed resource markets.
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Your next question comes from Aaron MacNeil from TD Securities.
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Aaron MacNeil
Analyst
Joe, Iâm sure youâre dying to answer more questions about inflation. So figure Iâll add one. What are you doing to ensure project like Fargo-Moorhead or some of the other diversified projects donât experience the same inflationary pressures that youâve seen in your oil sands operations? And I can appreciate the oil sands are -- its own unique animal, but I mean inflation pressures across parts and people are pervasive across sectors. So I just want to get your sense of what youâre doing now to ensure that you donât see these pressures elsewhere?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Well, in areas weâre actively bidding, including that large regional oil sands contract, weâre putting it into the contract clauses that thereâs reopeners based on these unusual market conditions. So weâre making it more a contractual right than a mutually agreed upon amendment, just giving it a bit more force, and then also trying to increase the frequency. Just when thereâs high volatility, you donât want the overhang. You want the timing to match up as best you can. And the difference is in indices 3% and your actual was 4% or 2%, no big deal. When the variance grows as big as it is, then the overhang a big deal. And then the -- so weâre -- weâre putting that into contracts. Places like Fargo-Moorhead are, I guess, I would say, probably less of an issue because they have longer-term profiles. When you have 6 years of construction and 29 years of operation and maintenance, things tend to move towards the averages when you have a terms like that. And short-term inflationary pressures wonât necessarily adjust. And my guess is, 10 years down the road, Fargoâs inflation looks like an average inflation, although it may put some pressure on the first year of operating here. And then -- so that -- I guess thatâs -- the key for us is just making sure what we learn and how the disconnect between indices and real costs are we trying to put direct into contract language so that itâs not a mutually agreed negotiation, itâs actually a contractual right.
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Aaron MacNeil
Analyst
Okay. Understood. Iâm done on the inflationary thing. Maybe a couple of more follow-ups. Could you maybe walk us through your slate of projects for Nuna this summer, given that itâs the seasonally strongest quarter? And how does the job mix, I guess, compare year-over-year?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Pretty similar, the largest driver being the Northern Ontario gold mine. Thereâs -- when we go through the bid pipeline, thatâs a combined Nuna North American bid pipeline. And itâs -- thereâs equal distribution. Iâd say probably the broadest distribution in those 10 or 12 -- those 12-odd dots in that middle row. Thereâs a couple of oil sands thatâs easy to pick out, the red ones. Thereâs a couple of infrastructure. Thereâs a couple of gold, thereâs potash, iron, gold, platinum, nickel, diamonds. Itâs probably is the most diverse and active bid pipeline weâve seen in a long time. And a lot -- a good chunk of that is Nuna because itâs outside of oil sands or areas we would look to partner with Nuna if thereâs larger asset requirements. And theyâre meaningful terms and jobs as well.
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Aaron MacNeil
Analyst
The last question I had. It looks like thereâs a lot of diversified projects on the radar. A lot of them being smaller. Like how many of these smaller projects could you reasonably execute on before it kind of becomes too cumbersome for a company of your size? And I guess, like the context of the question is just the oil sands operations were so efficient because theyâre all big and theyâre all in the same area. So I guess Iâm just wondering if youâre worried about losing some of those efficiencies if you were to take on a lot of those little projects?
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Joe Lambert
Management
These projects actually have good term and reasonable size. So 7 out of those 12 projects are plus $100 million. So these arenât a $10 million lift for 2 months in the summer, somewhere -- and multiple ones of them -- not to be redundant, but multiple of them are multiple year contracts. So itâs not typical 3-month summer work kind of contract. There is some significant term in volume and dollar value in these contracts. And thatâs really whatâs extremely exciting about not only diversification. And so these are areas that typically are underutilized fleet in oil sands are 100 and 150-ton trucks that are small in oil sands and typically get high utilization in the winter, but very low in summer. This gives us an opportunity to get year-round utilization on those fleets for multiple years, hopefully, in these longer-term contracts. And so these arenât distractions that are going to be 2-month jobs. These are meaningful jobs that will have at least more than half of them that will be gains in utilization along with diversification.
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Operator
Your next question comes from Maxim Sytchev from National Bank Financial.
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Maxim Sytchev
Analyst
Just maybe the first question for you. Do you mind just reminding us how we should think about the revenue ramp-up at Fargo because I presume itâs going to be some JV accounting, can you just remind us how we should be thinking about this?
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Jason Veenstra
Management
Yes. Next year, 2023 is the big year, 2023 and 2024, with $650 million of our backlog is Fargo and about $150 million of that per year is in â23 and â24. And that comes through in our combined revenue. So it wonât be reported revenue, but it shows in our combined revenue. And thatâs quite a steep ramp from this year. Year-to-date, itâs been very modest in the kind of $15 million year-to-date and a little higher than that through Q3 and Q4, but thatâs kind of the ramp. Weâve always said 2023 is going to be kind of a step change for Fargo.
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Maxim Sytchev
Analyst
Okay. Okay. Thatâs helpful. And then another question for Joe. Some of the clients in the oil sands have been facing some management changes and some pressure. Just wondering, in terms of what youâre hearing in relation to the trends to in-source versus outsource work, what is your sense right now from some of these bigger clients, if you can maybe comment?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Yes. I guess I donât have much of a change in sense until I get a better understanding of what may happen on the -- with those executive teams. Generally, the people we deal with are the guys with P&L responsibility that are overseeing the mine sites. Theyâre generally those VP of Ops, or GMs of sites that are usually the decision makers and the ones weâre very much engaged with. And then ultimately, they get approval from whatever level in their organization. But I donât think any of the changes that are occurring or may occur in any of our clients are going to affect our abilities and our negotiations are ongoing. I really donât have a sense before if itâs going to change perceptions and give us better opportunity to in-house some of the work that theyâre doing. But I guess I really lack a good answer on that for you, Max. Iâll wait to see what happens and how if thereâs any change in strategy from those clients.
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Maxim Sytchev
Analyst
Right. And I guess, are you seeing any changes from your other 3 key clients on that front? Or itâs sort of business as usual?
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Joe Lambert
Management
I believe one area, and I do believe this is an area weâll continue to make inroads on is our maintenance and our maintenance rebuild and component remanufacturing capabilities. I think thereâs certainly opportunity to do more of that for our clients. And I think there, weâve shown more of them and done more of that work for them. I think near-term, weâre really focused on getting our own gear fixed and running. So itâs hard to put much time into others right now until we have more capacity built up, but I do think thatâs an area that we could easily grow, and our clients are showing more and more interest in that. So in-housing some of the maintenance that they may be doing or may have other vendors doing and bringing it to us, I think thatâs a very real possibility.
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Maxim Sytchev
Analyst
And do you mind maybe just providing a bit of -- sort of a bridge to how many people do you have to hire, like in terms of absolute numbers or in terms of percentages so that you have the capacity to do outside kind of your own fleet work? Like is it 15% to 20%, or is it much, much higher than that?
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Joe Lambert
Management
Actually, itâs probably -- we probably get back to where we expect to be with another 5% to 6% kind of add. And I think weâll get that in the next quarter. And then as we add, with our own high demand, I think weâll focus on improving utilization as we can grow beyond that. This is -- 5% or 6% is 5 or 6 guys basically itâs -- actually itâs about 11 guys for that 6% increase. So that once we add another 11 -- actually, probably 9 to 11, I think it was, weâll be at where we were in Q1 with our headcount. And as we go above that, which I believe we will be able to do, weâll look to improve our own utilization using that manpower, but weâll also start looking at doing more work for others. We have been doing some and continue to do. Itâs just -- we want to make sure we focus on our own fleet first before we offer our maintenance services to others. And then I think our Acheson facility has the best capabilities and ability to draw people in, and this is where weâve added quite a bit of capacity so that we can move equipment down here. And so I think weâll continue to be able to do that. So that cover up...?
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Maxim Sytchev
Analyst
Yes, yes, for sure, for sure. And then just I think in the past, you said the goal is to get to $25 million of external maintenance. Is that kind of still the number that youâre working towards? And where are we right now as a run rate relative to those numbers?
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Joe Lambert
Management
I think weâre on track to actually exceed that slightly and predominantly from those rebuilds we did for the joint venture partner. And, like I said, thatâs with us drawing back some capacity to work on our own fleet. So I think the upside of that -- I think weâll exceed those numbers that you said this year. And like I said, as we get more manpower, weâll be able to increase upon that external maintenance work.
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Operator
This concludes the Q&A session of the call, and I will pass the call over to Joe Lambert, President and CEO, for closing comments.
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Joe Lambert
Management
Thanks, Sergio. Thanks again, everyone, for joining us today.
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Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating, and ask that you please disconnect your lines.