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Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 27, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the National Oilwell Varco Q1 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference call may be recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Loren Singletary, Chief Investor & Industry Relations Officer. Sir, you may begin.

Loren Singletary - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Crystal, and welcome, everyone to National Oilwell Varco's first quarter 2017 earnings conference call. With me today are Clay Williams, President, CEO and Chairman of NOV; and Jose Bayardo, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin the discussion of NOV's financial results for the first quarter of 2017, please note that some of the statements we make during this call may contain forecast, projections, and estimates, including but not limited to comments about our outlook for the company's business. These are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws based on limited information as of today, which is subject to change. They are subject to risk and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. No one should assume that these forward-looking statements remain valid later in the quarter or later in the year. I refer you to the latest Forms 10-K and 10-Q NOV filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission for a more detailed discussion of the major risk factors affecting our business. Further information regarding these as well as supplemental financial and operation information may be found within our press release and on our website at www.nov.com or in our filings with the SEC. On a U.S. GAAP basis, for the first quarter of 2017, NOV reported revenues of $1.74 billion and a net loss (02:06) of $122 million or $0.32 a share. Please be aware that our use of the term EBITDA throughout the call this morning will correspond with the term adjusted EBITDA as defined in our press release. We also use other non-GAAP measures as described in our press release. Later on this call, we will answer your questions, which we ask you to limit to two in order to permit more participation. Now let me turn the call over to Clay.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Loren. We're pleased to report this morning that for the first quarter of 2017, National Oilwell Varco posted sequential revenue growth for the second quarter in a row, and posted sequential EBITDA growth for the third quarter in a row. The company is benefiting from two-and-a-half years of intense cost reduction as it capitalizes on the full-fledged recovery underway in North America. Throughout the downturn, we have been consistent in our focus on: one, managing what we can, namely costs; while, two, pivoting towards technologies like horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracture stimulation, which we see benefiting disproportionately in the next upturn. Solid results in both areas enabled us to once again outrun declines in offshore markets and rig building during the first quarter to post sequential revenue improvement overall. As global oil supply and demand rebalance and oilfield activity grinds higher, NOV is building escape velocity from the black hole the oil industry has been in since late 2014. Oil demand has grown nearly every single year since the first commercial well was drilled in Pennsylvania in 1859, making the oil industry, in my view, the ultimate growth industry for the past 158 years. It's fueled an unprecedented improvement in global standards of living, as people figure out that plastics and transportation fuel makes their lives a whole, whole lot better. During each of the many down cycles this industry has endured, those of us engaged in the industry are forced to learn once again just how Darwinian this business can be, and we are forced to learn once again of the necessity of drastic reductions in our expense base. Later during the subsequent up-cycles, the world is forced to learn once again that double-digit reductions in global E&P CapEx result in diminished supply and the world is…

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Clay. To recap our first quarter results, NOV consolidated revenues were $1.74 billion, an increase of 3% from the fourth quarter of 2016. Rapidly growing activity levels in the U.S. and Canada led to an 18% increase in revenue within North America, which was partially offset by a 4% revenue decline in international markets. EBITDA increased $3 million to $105 million or 6% of sales. The company generated 41% sequential incremental EBITDA margins, excluding the impact of gains from order deletions, which occurred in the fourth quarter. Operating loss, excluding other items, was $70 million, a $2 million improvement over the fourth quarter of 2016. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow, accounts receivable and inventory reductions of $105 million and $71 million, respectively, were mostly offset by similar declines in current liabilities. So working capital, excluding cash and debt, decreased only slightly. Quarterly cash flow from operations totaled $111 million, and CapEx was limited to $42 million, providing us with $69 million in free cash flow during the first quarter. At March 31, we had a cash balance of $1.5 billion, $3.2 billion in total debt and a debt to capitalization ratio of 18.7%. For the first quarter of 2017, our Rig Systems segment generated $393 million in revenue, down $33 million or 8% from the fourth quarter of 2016. The continued fall-off in revenue from offshore-related projects was partially offset by an $18 million sequential increase from our land rig business. EBITDA was $33 million, a decrease of $24 million from the fourth quarter. Excluding the impact of the order deletions from the Q4 results, the segment posted EBITDA decremental margins of approximately 24%, demonstrating the effectiveness of our ongoing efforts to remove costs and improve efficiencies. During the quarter, we booked $118 million in…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our first question comes from Ole Slorer from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Ole H. Slorer - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Thank you very much. And thanks for going through the numbers and the story here in great detail as always. I wonder, first of all, Clay, very impressed the way the cost reductions that you've driven through the organization and in the process of pivoting it more towards short cycle activity. Could you talk a little bit about where you stand now in terms of right-sizing the organization within the offshore exposure?

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Ole. Yeah, we're continuing to focus on costs. And as we described in our prepared comments, lots of crosscurrents with businesses going up and down, and generally more constructive on our outlook for land, which means that within the offshore, we're continuing to trim costs and focus on improving our efficiency. So if you recall, nine months ago, we talked to a $400 million reduction in structural costs, which was on top of the $2-plus-billion we had achieved at that time. With regards to updating you on the progress against that, we are no well in excess of $400 million a year in structural cost savings, but we're not done yet. So we're continuing to reduce costs, which we've closed 297 facilities. And we have another 54 there in process of closing and continue to adjust. So, still making progress. Looking forward to the day when I can report to all of you and to all of our employees that we're done. But frankly, we're not there yet. So – but really, it's a necessity. Been a severe downturn, our business mix is shifting more towards land, as we described, and very excited this quarter, like last quarter, to see more and more growth in those areas of our business. So that's really what has us excited and enthusiastic about the future. Ole H. Slorer - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: It's a meaningful for pivot here. But again, just one more question on the aftermarket, very impressive margins there. When it comes to offshore aftermarket, a lot of these rigs that you delivered in the last cycle and are coming up to being 10 years old, and I would imagine that there have been quite a lot of technology that's been developed. You highlighted that you're seeing certain investments for people putting new features to their rigs to keep them competitive. Could you talk a little bit more to that, and whether you see the aftermarket business now stabilizing?

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah. A couple of things. With regards to sort of near-term opportunities in the offshore, we're seeing more offshore rig operators come to us for enhancements of those rigs to make them more competitive in a crowded marketplace. They're coming to us for replacement components or upgrade components at the request of their customers. So oil companies recognize it's more of a buyers' market. And they're putting pressure on drilling contractors to add more pressure control capability, add more pipe-racking capabilities, Crown Mounted Compensators, things like that, in exchange we're extending contracts, for instance, so there's a few examples of that. With regards to NOV's offering into the space, we're focused on ways to help our customers do that. So new fingerboard technologies that we're investigating now. About five or six years ago, we began installing many more sensors into top drives, drawworks, mud pumps that we've sold over the years, which has created a foundation for us to push new big data predictive analytic products that we're bringing to the marketplace in addition to the Rigsentry BOP predictive analytics model that we discussed last quarter. So, lots of opportunities there. On the aftermarket side, as Jose mentioned, very pleased to see now the second quarter of growing spare parts booking and a 13% sequential increase in spare parts revenues, and just feel like our customers both offshore and land really are running out of spare parts and coming to us to supply those. Ole H. Slorer - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Yeah. Well, impressive margins. Thank you very much. I'll hand it back.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Ole.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Marshall Adkins from Raymond James. Your line is open. J. Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.: Good morning, guys.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Good morning. J. Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.: Yeah, thanks for the detail. So just to stay on that theme for a minute, I assume all the closings and write-offs continue to be in the offshore side and kind of the – correlated to that is, on Rig Systems, when do we finally flush through all the waters and the stuff on Rig Systems on offshore where that bottoms, at least from the offshore perspective? I know land's getting better, but offshore, when does that finally wash out?

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Well, on the first question, I would say that we're cutting cost and reducing expenses and becoming more efficient across the entire organization. And many of our products and services are sold into both offshore and land. And so decisions we're making around rationalizing capacity are driven by the – partly driven by the outlook for offshore. But a lot of our businesses and plants really serve both markets. With regards to when, I think you're kind of asking when does Rig Systems bottom. We're continuing to work through – we carried a very big backlog of offshore rig building into the downturn. And we're continuing to work that down as there have been no new – basically no new orders for newbuilds in some time. I think that segment will bottom when land really starts to come back to replace that continual – that slide. And so and our outlook for land is growing more and more constructive kind of quarter-by-quarter. So when we look out into the future, we talked last quarter about a lot of rig tenders going on in the Middle East, and we're still pursuing those. They're not moving particularly quickly, but they are moving. We've seen some other corners of the globe express interest in land rigs. We're seeing rising dayrates in North America. Dayrates are about 15% off bottom is what we hear from our customers, in the high teens or low $20,000 a day range. And so as dayrates begin to move up, we do think land drilling contractors are going to come to us for more new rigs, for more equipment and that can help sort of offset the decline in the offshore market. So really the short answer is it's a bit of a race between land and offshore in terms of when Rig Systems turns the corner and starts – resumes growth. J. Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.: Right. That sounds like we're on track fairly soon. So one more quick one here, the eliminations side was a lot lower than it's been trending. Is that a mix issue or is that part of the cost reduction things that's been going on? What happened with the eliminations and kind of help us with where to pin that going forward?

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Hey, Marshall, this is Jose. It's a combination of both of those factors. So essentially, as we're – we're going forward – a higher percentage of our revenues overall are third-party revenues rather than eliminations. Also, as Clay was touching on earlier, costs are continuing to come out of the equation. The organization's doing a great job of managing that and so that's also contributing to what you're seeing in that elimination line. J. Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.: Makes sense. All right. Great job, guys. Thanks.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thanks.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Brad Handler from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Good morning.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Hi, Brad.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Could you – I guess, let's talk about sort of the sources of some of the new orders. They're very interesting. How many customers if you – or order of magnitude are ordering the well-servicing rigs?

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

We've had interest from a couple – we had – we have one customer in particular who placed a very large order in Q1, Brad.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Okay. Okay. And maybe the same question...

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

There is certainly a growing interest related to high-spec well servicing rigs that are sort of pushing the limits in terms of extended lateral completions.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah. Yeah, we get others looking at the...

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

There are a number of well-servicing companies that are eyeing opportunities to expand that portion of their business.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Got it. Well, it makes sense. We're certainly seeing process of upgrading through cycles here. That makes sense. Okay. Maybe a similar question about NOVOS and IntelliServ. You obviously have one public contract driller that's doing a lot of advertising on your behalf, if you will. But could you talk about the numbers roughly of customers that are engaging in NOVOS and ordering your system?

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah. We're bidding about 75 rigs currently with NOVOS upgrades, both land and offshore. We've got – and just a little background, Brad, you're aware of this, but other listeners may not be, NOVOS offers sort of open architecture. So we have a software developer kit that will provide anyone that would like to write an app to help optimize the performance of a rig. So oil companies are interested in optimizing the performance or using an app to define a safety envelope, for instance, that the rig – that they require the rig to operate within. Service companies can write apps to perform their particular operation on a rig. If they want to come and cement to a casing for instance, they can write an app to help optimize that and offer that. And that's sort of a – so it's sort of a workspace operating system for rigs. We've got six third-party entities including one major oil companies that have written apps to work on NOVOS. We've got another 16 or 18 that have secured software developer kits from us and are working on apps. So, a lot of excitement around this. This is sort of a new thing for our industry, and in particular, really proud of the open architecture feature of this. We really, rather than restrict this to NOV apps, we're really kind of opening it up to all the imagination and innovation that this industry has in abundance and letting others write apps to kind of optimize and improve the industry. So I think a lot of excitement, a lot of buzz. And the other point I would bring up around NOVOS is that it also works hand-in-hand with our closed-loop automated drilling and optimization services. So, wired drill pipe with NOVOS with downhole measurement, drilling mechanics is a very, very powerful way to improve drilling operations that we're also seeing a lot of interest in.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

It's great to hear. And again, that same public driller seems to be taking advantage of all the above.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yes.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

So we'll obviously get to see – we'll see demonstrations of that. Maybe a different sort of follow-up question for me. Maybe, Jose, can you tally up kind of the U.S. land revenue picture across divisions and talk to what sort of sequential revenue improvement was (43:31)?

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Obviously, across the board, we saw the percentage of land revenue increased from 52% to 57% across the company. We saw North American revenue grow from 33% to 37%. And so really across the board, in all of our businesses, we are seeing a higher percentage of our revenue ultimately come from the land, predominantly North America land. And I actually – was the question related to North America land or were you talking about just in general (44:15)...

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

No, that's – North America's fine. And I guess what I was trying to drive to in a sense was the math around how your revenues are faring relative to the rig count. Certainly, appreciating why it wouldn't match necessarily, but trying to also get a sense of – and then, you can just share your perspective on whether you would expect it to sort of mirror rig count and mirror activity at some point sort of once you retool once spare parts are underway. I'm just – perspective on when and if it starts to mirror U.S. activity more broadly.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Sure, sure. And I guess, the one to really focus on is our Wellbore Technologies. That has been a very good proxy for really global rig count growth over the past couple of years. We've seen our North American – a number of our North American businesses, I touched on my prepared remarks, here this last quarter exceed the growth in North America and our respective North American land businesses due to market share gains and additional things along those lines. The challenge that we've had within that segment is our drill pipe business, which is a much later cycle-type opportunity. But as I also touched on, we're growing more and more confident that that business has finally seen a bottom. So I think that gives us a great deal of confidence that we'll see better responsiveness to that overall segment, more in line with North American-related activity. So very excited about where things are headed with the Wellbore Technologies segment. CAPS (45:51), as you know, is much more of a mixed set of businesses for both land and offshore, also the preponderance of those businesses are capital equipment-related businesses. And last quarter, we talked about that we were somewhat surprised by how quickly we're seeing demand for capital equipment come back into the marketplace as the existing equipment base is absorbed in the North American marketplace. So that too is obviously benefiting at an increasing pace related to what's happening in North America. But as we have also talked about, particularly related to our floating production and our subsea businesses, we do have those crosscurrents with the offshore businesses.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Appreciate the crosscurrents, and I'll turn it back, but just another – do you expect – given what you're seeing in both capital equipment but then sort of spare parts drivers in North American land, do you expect that to be able sort of over the next couple quarters from a revenue perspective to keep up with activity if there's some lag? And as we think about the rig count, is that help us calibrate, or if I want to do the hydraulic fracturing, kind of activity count, does that help us calibrate you think your own revenue streams in CAPS (47:07)?

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah, I think that's a fair question. And look, to-date, we have obviously been lagging as that capacity has been getting absorbed. We talked about the growth in our ISE business and I also think that the little pullback that we saw in the commodity price here recently has caused a little bit of hesitation for certain orders that we probably would have pulled across the finish line here during the first quarter. But if anything, what that do is just delaying the inevitable and will cause a sharper inflection when it does take place. So I think as you're aware, what typically happens is most of our customers realize that they have a need for that additional capacity all at the same time. And that tends to happen all at once and creates a very nice backdrop for our businesses.

Bradley Philip Handler - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Right. All right. Helpful color. Thank you, guys. Turn it back.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Brad.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Sean Meakim from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Sean C. Meakim - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open

Hey, morning.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Good morning.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Hi, Sean.

Sean C. Meakim - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open

So just to follow up on some of those discussions, I was curious to hear a little more specifically I guess on the outlook for newbuild land rig orders. We're hearing some of the tenders in the Middle East maybe slipping a little bit, but there's also a lot of them out there. And I'd imagine that newbuilds are going to be a good part of that. And then also just to hear maybe some progress on customer discussions in terms of NOVOS implementation in some of these international markets.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah. On the land rig newbuild outlook, we are continuing to pursue those tenders in the Middle East. And there's been I think some – there's been a lot of public discussion about those. And just so you're aware, lots of the NOCs in the Gulf States and in The Kingdom are discussing putting more land rigs to work. It'll be a combination of existing rigs and newbuilds. And those various tenders are moving at different rates, but it's a meaningful number of rigs. And then in the quarter, we did see demand blossoming in a couple of other regions. In our conversations with North American drilling contractors, I do think new rig building is still a ways out. But the good news for all of them and us is that dayrates are continuing to march up and we're currently selling into that trend in terms of upgrading the torque and pressure capabilities of rigs. So adding a third mud pump, adding a fourth genset, adding hightop torque drives, top drives to those rigs. But I think once dayrates get up into the mid-$20,000 range a day, I think that's really where you see meaningful demand for new rigs across the North American market. And as Jose just said just a moment ago, past cycles are a guide. They all seem to phone us at once seeking to put those rigs to work. So we are constructive on that outlook. It's not next quarter or the quarter after, but I do think we're getting closer to the day and we're seeing a lot more land rig building out there. On NOVOS, we have had lots of discussions with operators overseas. We had one of the major oil companies specify NOVOS on some of their offshore drilling projects upcoming in the first quarter. We had another specify NOVOS for an international – another international project that they are tendering that's onshore. And so I think awareness of NOVOS is growing. And it's a terrific system and very, very pleased to see it now being introduced in the field and making a difference.

Sean C. Meakim - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open

That's very helpful. Thank you for that, Clay. And then just -maybe thinking about the usual topic on M&A, we've seen the industry move towards vertical integration, or at least you're seeing some of the collapsing of the different verticals that we've seen historically. Just how does that influence your thinking? Does it influence your thinking around the appeal of services, capabilities outside of the current scope of what you offer?

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

We get great franchises selling lots of sophisticated equipment to land drillers, offshore drillers, directional drillers, workover companies, wireline companies, pressure pumping companies and coiled tubing companies. I think integrating vertically to now compete with those customer groups just strikes me as a bad idea. And I think we would lose a lot of credibility and trust with our customers. So we really don't have plans to do that. In full candor, we've looked at it. I mean, it's a – I think we have a financial obligation to evaluate different strategies like that, but I just can't get there. I think we're better served by continuing to focus on providing great technology to enable those groups of customers to compete. That's what they have come to rely upon us for, and that's what we've been doing through the past few years. And so we have been very busy on the M&A front. We had one closing in Q1. We've had one more closing in Q2. We have three more closing expected in Q2 – and maybe a fourth closing expected in Q2, and then a number of smaller companies under letters of intent. And so it's kind of a – it's more of a strategy of enhancing what we have in the marketplace. And again, pivoting into those sectors we see as higher growth and more interesting sectors where we can carve out meaningful competitive advantage. And part of the prepared comments around our downhole tool offering and then around our processing equipment offerings were to really illustrate kind of what we were doing, the combination of internal investment and technology along with acquisitions to enhance and grow those business franchises and to do a better job serving our customers and to earn an above-average rate of return. And what that has guided us towards is very selected it – very selected, very sort of rifle-shot targeted acquisitions focused more on products, technologies, specific capabilities and the like. And I'd say, so far so good. I'm actually very, very excited about our progress and what we're doing there.

Sean C. Meakim - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open

Makes sense to me. Thanks, Clay.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

You bet.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Scott Gruber from Citigroup. Your line is open.

Scott A. Gruber - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Good morning, gentlemen.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Hi, Scott.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Good morning, Scott.

Scott A. Gruber - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Jose, we often get asked by investors how to think about where your inventories head and your ability to draw-down the excess inventories built up during the historic downturns. With the U.S. market now in full recovery mode and the offshore markets bottoming out, how should we think about that trajectory in your days of inventory? Do you have a year-end target that you'd be able to offer even if it's a range, how should we think about it?

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah, so clearly we had another draw-down on our inventory this quarter about $71 million. We still have, in our view, an overly large level of working capital across the company. The way we tend to look at working capital is as a percentage of our annualized revenue run rate. And today, as we sit here, we're at about 56% of annualized run rate, slowly ticking down. But our historical norm is more in the sort of the 33% to 40% type range and that is our long-term target. Certainly, not saying we're going to get there by the end of this year, it's probably more of a late 2018 type phenomenon, but we fully do expect to get back there. Specifically as it relates to inventory, I do expect to see that drawdown be a little bit more pronounced here over the next couple of quarters. We've now had a couple of quarters of decent bookings for some of the capital equipment which just was not moving at all over the last, call it, year and a half. And so once some of those orders start shipping, we should see some better improvement on the inventory front. But certainly, all of our working capital levers are something that we're highly motivated to improve during the course of the year.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I think one of our challenges here has been the liquidity challenges of our customers. It's been frustrating to us internally trying to liquidate the working capital. But it really speaks to just how the stress that the whole industry has been under trying to turn all that to cash.

Scott A. Gruber - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Well, it sounds like you're going to start really turning the corner, which is good to hear. And, Clay, a follow-up on Wellbore Technologies. It has a lot of moving parts in terms of the mix, more onshore, but also a good rate of penetration on new higher end technologies. You've also taken cost out of the business. So we kind of think about the long-term outlook for Wellbore Technologies, if global activity continues to improve but the pace of U.S. activity moderates a bit from here, how should we think about what a long-term normal margin is for the Wellbore Tech segment? Is 25% still achievable longer term?

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah, EBITDA margins, absolutely. There are some rental tool businesses in there within Wellbore Technologies. Part of our downhole tools business I described earlier is rental, and then we have a terrific waste management, solids control franchise that also does a lot of rental. And those businesses are very capable of generating EBITDA margins well in excess of that. So, yeah, I think once we kind of get back to normal, look to margins to go up. And we're still taking costs out of that segment as well. So our outlook with rising rig count, with costs coming out of that business is – is over the long haul is very strong.

Scott A. Gruber - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Got it. Good to hear. Thank you.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

You bet.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Scott.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our last question will come from Byron Pope from Tudor. Your line is open. Byron K. Pope - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Morning.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Morning, Byron. Byron K. Pope - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Guys, I've got a couple of quick questions, which stems from the fact that I just don't write very fast. Bit for Rig Systems, it seemed as though this was the first quarter since really 2014 where the book and turn revenues were up sequentially. And just thinking about the guidance for Q2 in terms of the revenue from backlog, I think I heard $260 million. And for the overall revenue guidance, down sequentially. Just seemed as though that book and turn revenue might be flattish to maybe slightly down in Q2. So I guess, the way I was thinking about that book and turn business with land drillers starting – or continuing to upgrade rig, I would have thought that the top line progression would continue to progress there. So I was just wondering if maybe, Jose, if you could speak to the sequential dynamics for Rig Systems.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah. Byron, I'm not 100% sure I heard you right as it relates to Rig Aftermarket. But just to make sure we're on the same page, we actually guided... Byron K. Pope - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Rig Systems.

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

I understand, but you referred to Rig Aftermarket which plays into the answer. So Rig Aftermarket, we actually guided up a little bit from Q1 to Q2. And I think you're asking a very good question because the preponderance of that book and turn revenue within Rig Systems, it really relates to the inter-company revenue that is between – mostly between Rig Systems and Rig Aftermarket. So as Rig Aftermarket improves, you should see that percentage or that number actually increase over time. Byron K. Pope - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Okay, okay. That's helpful. And then with regard to Wellbore Technologies, I think you spoke to continued strong incremental margins there as we think about Q2, but the incrementals were so fantastic in Q1. And could you help us frame in ballpark terms how you're thinking about incremental margins for Wellbore Technologies in Q2?

Jose A. Bayardo - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I think it's really similar incrementals as to what we saw in Q1. Byron K. Pope - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Okay. That's helpful. Thanks.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Clay Williams for any closing remarks.

Clay C. Williams - National Oilwell Varco, Inc.

Management

I appreciate everyone joining us this morning. We look forward to updating you on our second quarter results in July.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may all disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.