Michael Scarpelli
Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.
Walter, let me just build on that. CSM is clearly a huge segment, a huge market, $20 billion market. And I think way too many people think that somehow it's all the same and it's not. There are distinct segments in that market. And different providers align better with different segments. So as Mike said, we're not focused on going after the full $20 billion. There are certain segments of the CRM -- I'm sorry, the customer service market that require strong CRM-based system. We're not the best provider of that. Salesforce is the best provider of that. But there other segments that want to take inbound contacts, identify root cause, which is a cross-functional workflow, fix what the problem was, which again requires cross-functional coordination workflow, so that that problem doesn't happen in the future. And segments where you want the customer to do -- be able to address in a self-help or automated fashion, resolving their problem, understanding where it stands. And our platform is well geared for that segment of the market. And so, if you were to see where we focus on our go-to-market teams in CSM, it's not across the enter CSM market, it's against the sub-segment of the market where our product lines development leads, that tends to be B2B, technology company, services businesses and ones where there is, I would call, sophisticated customer needs to be served. And so, I think, this is not a zero-sum market, it's a $20 billion market. And as Mike said, there's a lot of old legacy software there. And so, I think, there will be multiple winners in this segment.