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Neptune Insurance Holdings Inc. (NP)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 3, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Neenah Paper Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Bill McCarthy, Vice President, Financial Analysis and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

Thank you and good morning. With me on the call today are John O’Donnell, our Chief Executive Officer; and Bonnie Lind, our Chief Financial Officer. I’ll begin with a few summary comments and then John and Bonnie will discuss business and financial results in detail. As usual following our prepared remarks, we will open up the call for questions. We released earnings yesterday afternoon reporting record sales of $249 million driven by growth in both Technical Products and Fine Paper and Packaging. As expected operating income included cost for the start up of our North American filtration operation as well as impacts from sharply higher input costs in the quarter that we ultimately expect to recover through selling price increases. Consequently, operating income of $29 million, while up from the first quarter, declined compared with $34 million in the second quarter of last year. GAAP earnings per share of $1.46 increased from $1.24 a year ago and was driven by a lower tax expenses following a change in our repatriation plans for overseas earnings. This tax benefit applied to both 2016 and 2017 and our adjusted EPS of $1.22 excluded a $0.24 per share benefit related to 2016. Last year adjusted EPS was $1.29 and excluding cost of $0.05 per share for integration and restructuring. A reconciliation of these GAAP and non-GAAP measures has shown in our press release. I would also like to remind everyone that our comments today may includes forward-looking statements, and that actual results could differ from these statements due to uncertainties and risks that are noted in our SEC filings and on our website. With that, I’ll turn things over to our Chief Executive Officer, John O’Donnell. John O’Donnell: Good morning, Bill, it continues to be a busy year at Neenah and I am pleased…

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Thank you, John. Good morning everyone. As usual I’ll go through results in each of our segments and then discuss a few corporate items and let me begin today with Technical Products. Sales of $127 million were ahead of last year despite currencies translation headwinds and on a constant currency basis sales increased more than 2%. Growth resulted from significantly higher shipments of labels and niche filtration products, continued good performance in backings as we gained share in abrasives in Asia and a higher value sales mix. The improved mix reflected increased sales of our higher value products in transportation filtration, labels and backings, combined these items more than offsets lower transportation filtration volume as we work through short-term capacity constraints with reduced inventory levels. Operating income of $16 million declined from $20 million last year largely due to $3 million of filtration start-up costs and $3 million of higher input costs. Partly offsetting these items were improved manufacturing efficiencies and benefits from the higher value sales mix. Input costs have been a significant headwind this year and materials like latex and resins continued their suits rise in the quarter. We remain confident in our ability to offset these increases over time and we expect to see additional benefits in the third quarter as a result of the efforts of our team and as contractual raw material price adjustors begin to take effect. Turning next to Fine Paper and Packaging, revenues of $116 million were up 2% from last year and our leading brands continue to outperform the market. Results were boosted by double-digit growth in premium packaging. Growth in other products like wide format and digital papers increased shipments to a major direct sales customer and higher export sales. Selling prices increases implemented early in the year also contributed…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Jon Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Good morning guys. Thank you for taking my questions. John O’Donnell: Good morning, Jon.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Good morning.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Can you talk about the decision not to repatriate cash? I assume most of that is in Europe. Is it mostly a tax savings move or have you actually saw any most suitable use for the overseas whether that's organic or inorganic investments?

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Yeah, so, Jon, we currently do not have any cash built-up in Europe, but for your book rate, the GAAP requires that you put a tax hit and if you assume that you are going to repatriate cash. Now that we made this designation that we don't plan to repatriate cash and like I said right now we don't have any cash there. We remove that drag from our rate. So that's the reason why we have to pick up. Going forward, we look at a number of factors. The resilient factors of course that go into tax planning, but based on all these factors, we're looking at – we would have better uses leading the cash in Europe than paying U.S. cash taxes to repatriate it.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Got to it, that’s very helpful. Thank you. And Bonnie, you may have mentioned this, and I am sorry if I missed it, but either Bonnie or John, are there opportunities for pricing improvements in filtration given that you are capacity constrained in Germany at this point? John O’Donnell: Yeah, our pricing activities, I think we’ve talked about in the past that typically filtration is annual contracts, but they're not annual January 1. So our pricing conversations happen with our customers on a regular basis. That being said, we also want to make sure that we treat this temporary position where we're short on capacity because we're about to qualify a full asset if you will and we're going to bring that product to market. So we don't want to be too opportunistic when we're going to be looking to those same customers to support our utilization of this asset. So we are having pricing discussions on a regular basis where it makes some meaningful sense at the same time we know this is a very long run and we're treating it like that both with our customers and for the utilization of this asset.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Okay, great. And then just from a pricing perspective over the whole business, is the expected pricing rise in the second half through your contracts and increases expected to expand the margin over whatever you expect input prices to increase by? John O’Donnell: Yeah, I think, what we've talked about each of the businesses is mid-teen double-digit margins with the expectation from where we're at. The primary uses for pricing is really to recover any of the input costs to protect our margins if you will and really want to be able to drive the overarching margins or improvement in our margins through greater penetration, better mix and through our R&D activities that we have underway, especially in our technical products side. So it's more – pricing is more on a recovery than this opportunistic margin increases.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Great, I get the question. Do you expect to recover more than views in the second half? John O’Donnell: Yeah, it won't be an exact view from that standpoint. So I expect to recover the impact of input costs that's where I would be. Tech Products, as we look at the three – our operating segments and Technical Products, we've got three different pricing strategies, annual escalators and then more market and it's really going to be the waiting of the products that come across there. So…

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

All right. John O’Donnell: Hope that covers it, Jon.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Got it. But Bonnie, what was the impact from the downtime in fine paper?

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

We think it's approximately $1 million. John O’Donnell: Yeah…

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

On the other… John O’Donnell: Yeah, that was blackout in lighting a complete blackout, but I guess appropriately they were focused on bringing the hospitals up first in that regard. So that’s way we don’t believe it to repeat.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Okay, got it. And then just finally, can you just provide a bit more color on the increase in receivables, what's going on there and do you expect that to come back in anytime soon?

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Yeah, like I said, the increase in receivables, we are really pleased when we look at our present current there is going to save ever been. Our DSOs are good. So the health, the quality of the receivables is really good overall, but the terms are sensitive to the geographies in which we sell. So what we saw in this quarter was high – a higher sales rate internationally, especially for filtration than what we had in the local market. So the term is basically extended out. So, yes, they will come back, but it's only just a matter of time.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Got it. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Dan Jacome with Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Good morning. How’s everybody? John O’Donnell: Good. How are you?

Bonnie Lind

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Thanks.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Good, thank you. So first on the Appleton, I think you mentioned you got seven customers qualified at the end of this quarter. Can you just remind us how many did you have at the end of the first quarter if you could detail that I am just curious. And then following that would be able to tell us how many in total you're trying to qualify this year, so we have a better understanding of it? I think you're making great progress. I'm just trying to put some numbers on it. John O’Donnell: No, that's fair. You're going to be able to have this math in your head, but we have zero at the end of the first quarter.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Okay. John O’Donnell: So that's why we’re all excited about seven, Dan. That's about a quarter – the customers that that we will ultimately qualify. And if you remember on the past calls, I've talked about qualification taking six months to eighteen months. We're just at the six month period, so to have seven. I was very pleased with that.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Okay. It’s very encouraging. So it looks like you're still targeting utilization of this new asset. 30% in the back half of 2018, is that still reasonable? John O’Donnell: That is our expectation and I think what gives me even greater confirmation or comfort is the fact that we've got multiple grades. We've run samples if you will for over 90% of the grades that we plan to sell. So, we’re in good shape.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. And then I'm not an expert at all in resin or latex, but why are prices going up? Is there some global shortage of supply that I need to know about? Or what's happening there just so we have a better understanding? John O’Donnell: I would say one of the major drivers was a significant flooding in Thailand and some of our resins are tied to more rubber, if you will, 40% of the rubber produced in Thailand. So that's really – but it was kind of a weather issue if you will. Our expectation that shot-up in the second quarter, which drove a lot of that, we start to see it mitigating in the back half as I mentioned in the call pulp will be taking its place and then [indiscernible] of input cost increases.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Great. Okay, okay, all right. I'm glad... John O’Donnell: Yes…

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then housekeeping so for the tax effect of 29% you're guiding is when do that’s started next year or third quarter of this year, just I'm sorry if I missed it.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

That’s going to start in the third quarter of this year.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Okay, okay, great. I think that's all I had. Nice job. Good luck for the rest of the year. John O’Donnell: Thanks, Dan.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Dan Jacome

Analyst · Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Yep.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Kurt Yinger with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Yes, good morning John, Bonnie and Bill. John O’Donnell: Good morning, Yinger.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Just starting off, you talked about the typical seasonality in Technical Products and as we move to the back half of the year it seems like the start-up costs will become less of the headwind and with some of the recovery of the input costs that should also be a tailwind. So would you expect that seasonality maybe to be less pronounced this year than we would normally see it or… John O’Donnell: Yeah, yeah, you're exactly right. We’ve referenced it because you can't change the history that's where the history of that business has been. But again as we love the learning curve on the A4 piece of it, the revenue aid from some of the pricing that's coming through there, this year might be a little unique. I feel like I'm saying that about this year about every topic, but yeah that that could be a little more level probably than we’ve historically seen. Especially two with – when you think about the move in the outage that we had at [indiscernible] the fourth quarter. You may want to remove this year from your historical view.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

All right, and then, I mean, I believe you’d said $15 million in incremental revenue from the Appleton facility this year. Were there any sales in the second quarter? John O’Donnell: Yeah, there were minor sales in the second quarter. We talked about six months to qualify – six months to qualify the customer. So we were just getting those qualified. So, there were some minor sales. You're exactly right on the big number, the $15 million side. I said $10 million to $15 million. So I'm giving myself lots of wiggle room because we're still in the start-up curve.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay. And I mean I guess would the majority of that be in the fourth quarter? Or would you expect some I guess more meaningful build in the next quarter? John O’Donnell: Yeah, it's going to get bigger each quarter. So the last quarter of the year will be the biggest one of the year.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then obviously the Appleton asset will give you some much needed incremental capacity, but as you look out sort of to the mid to long-term time horizon, can you talk about maybe any other geographies where you see attractive opportunities at this point or any sort of forward thinking you guys are doing right now as far as more transportation filtration capacity? John O’Donnell: Yeah, I think that it's very easy to see that the majority of this media is utilized in three major regions: Europe, North America and Asia. Obviously, we have a European solution. We've just constructed a U.S. We believe it's going to give us the significant well above the market growth rate, which we've been tracking about 8%. We just think this market grows at 4%. This asset provides us with five solid years of that significant growth. Obviously then that leaves just Asia as the last one. As we've discussed in the past that since we play at the very high end of transportation filtration, we want to make sure that the intellectual property is well protected. So we continue to ship into that market today both through – we will through the U.S. as well as through our German operations. And we’ll be reviewing that as we get closer to consuming our U.S. capacity.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay. And is that market much different than Europe and North America? It seems like they’re pretty consolidated at least in those regions? Is that different in some of those Asian countries? John O’Donnell: You're spot on it. It absolutely is. I think from a media provider, the predominance of the media is provided by three major players in both Europe and in the United States and in China whether it's the emissions requirements or market expectations, there were a lot of other smaller players that are in that market still. So it's not nearly as consolidated as major – some manufacturers continue to bring their platforms – engine platforms into that market. We believe that our media is going to continue to ride with them and we should see more consolidation in the future.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay, thanks. That’s helpful. Last question, just going back to the input cost inflation, is that mostly on the Technical Products side it sounds like or I mean how much headwinds have you had in papers as far as pulp prices? John O’Donnell: Sure, everybody is getting their turn in the barrel in this one. Now, first half is really was latex and then would impact disproportionately our Technical Products. The back half we’re feeling it's going to be a much larger impact as pulp is the primary input for the fine paper business. So they're going to get probably a greater impact in the back half.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then I mean just given the pricing action and the benefits that you saw in the first quarter in papers, I mean at least at this point there aren't really many levers you can pull to offset that at least this year. I mean does that sounds correct? John O’Donnell: Yeah, the later comes in the year the harder it is to offset it in this year. And that's why. I think I only say that expectation is to offset the margin impacts over time. So if we see higher pulp in the fourth quarter, I wouldn't expect that the group to be able to offset it in the fourth quarter from that standpoint. As I mentioned earlier we're going to see the Tech Products especially at performance material side starting to have some activity in pricing improvements in the third quarter because of this activity. Our expectation is –weather you offset it with price mix improvement or significant cost reductions, they're pulling all of those levers. Who am I to doubt them in the sense that that I look back historically they've been able to not only protect their margins, but actually enhance themselves. I am confident they'll be able to recover that.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay, but I mean I guess just in papers, is there any ability maybe as you turn the corner into 2018 that if pulp prices continue to be at these elevated levels that we could see sort of like a similar to last quarter where you guys get a nice boost by pushing through some price. John O’Donnell: Yeah, I think that the president of that business does a very good job, Julie Schertell, of ensuring that she understands the markets capabilities except pricing and she demonstrated that over time. I think if you look back at our historical, we've almost had an increase annually. So that there's a high likelihood that that we'll be able to continue to recover it.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst · D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

All right, great. Thank you very much. John O’Donnell: Thanks, Kurt.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Bill McCarthy for any closing remarks.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

Okay, I'd like to thank everyone for your time today and we just note that John Bonnie and I will be in New York on Monday for the Jeffries conference. Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any follow up questions. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.