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Insperity, Inc. (NSP)

Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Mon, Feb 13, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Christina, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Insperity Fourth Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. At this time, I would like to introduce today’s speakers. Joining us are Paul Sarvadi, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer; Richard Rawson, President; and Douglas Sharp, Senior Vice President of Finance, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Douglas Sharp. Mr. Sharp, please go ahead.

Douglas Sharp

Analyst

Thank you. We appreciate you joining us this morning. Let me begin by outlining our plan for this morning’s call. First, I’m going to discuss the details of our fourth quarter and full-year 2016 financial results. Paul will then recap the 2016 year and discuss the major initiatives of our 2017 plan. I will return to provide our financial guidance for the first quarter and full-year 2017. We will then end the call with a question-and-answer session, where Paul, Richard, and I will be available. Now, before we begin, I would like to remind you that Mr. Sarvadi, Mr. Rawson or myself may make forward-looking statements during today’s call which are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions. In addition, some of our discussions may include non-GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from any forward-looking statements and reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures, please see the Company’s public filings including the Form 8-K filed today, which are available on our website. Now let me begin today's call by discussing our fourth quarter results which included strong bottom line results driven by continued double-digit worksite employee growth, effective management of our direct cost programs, and operating leverage. Adjusted EPS increased 76% over Q4 of 2015 to $0.58 and adjusted EBITDA increased 37% to $23 million. Our fourth quarter results were driven by a 13% increase in average paid worksite employees over Q4 of 2015. Client retention remained strong again averaging over 99% for the quarter. Net hiring by the client base continued to be weak compared to our historical levels and in fact was overall a negative for the quarter. Gross profit increased by 14% over Q4 of 2015 with both benefit and workers' compensation costs managed to…

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Thank you, Doug. And thank everyone for joining us this morning. We're very pleased with the record results we’re reporting today and our outlook to extend our double-digit growth and profitability into a third consecutive year in 2017. Our unique business model designed to provide consistent predictable high growth combined with our strong cash flow positions Insperity to continue to provide superior returns to investors in the years ahead. Today I will focus my comments on three primary areas. First, I'll provide some color regarding our record level sales and client retention including our full-year results and our recently completed fall campaign. Second, I’ll fill in the picture of our year-end transition, which determines our starting point for the New Year in both volume and pricing and I will highlight the key initiatives driving our expected double-digit growth acceleration and profitability throughout 2017. Then I'll complete my remarks with a view of our long-term market opportunity in light of a new administration in Washington. 2016 was a record setting year in both new sales and client retention for Insperity, which sets the stage for a strong 2017. For the full-year, new sales exceeded 40,000 worksite employees and client retention reached a historical high of 86%. In our residual income business model, the most important factor to driving growth and profitability is client retention. This 86% record level follows a previous record 84% of client retention rate in 2015, both of which are substantially higher than our historical 80% average for most of the first 30 years of the Company's existence. Our client attrition measured in worksite employees lost due to terminating clients has had a historical pattern of losing 10% to 12% of the worksite employee base in January and February due to the year-end churn of client accounts. The…

Douglas Sharp

Analyst

Thanks Paul. Now let me provide our 2017 guidance beginning with the full-year. As Paul just mentioned, we are forecasting the 11.5% to 13% increase in average paid worksite employees over 2016 resulting in a range of 185,000 to 188,000 for 2017. Our forecast is based upon the starting point, coming off of our strong year end sales and client renewals, partially offset by weak net hiring in our client base in Q4 and the layoffs that occurred in January. We are forecasting an acceleration of worksite employee growth over the remainder of the year based on a higher number of trained business performance advisors, continued high client retention in a nominal level of net hiring in our client base throughout the year. As for our gross profit area, we have gone through our usual budget process of analyzing client mix, pricing and direct costs, including healthcare and workers' compensation claims trends. As a result, we were initially budgeting for our gross profit for worksite employee to be in line with 2016, which is consistent with Richard's comments last quarter. Our budget process is intended to begin the year with a conservative forecast for direct cost trends and leave the upside to favorable developments as we manage pricing and direct costs over the course of the year. In addition, our 2017 forecast excludes the favorable impact of the small business efficiency act on our payroll tax subsidy for a new business sold throughout the year, as we are still waiting on the approval of our application from the IRS. Our operating plan includes further investment in our growth including the 12% increase in trained Business Performance Advisors and the opening of four new sales offices. We are also increasing our investment in technology infrastructure, security and development to enhance our…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Jim Macdonald from First Analysis. Your line is open.

James Macdonald

Analyst

Yes. Good morning, guys. Nice guidance there.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Thank you.

James Macdonald

Analyst

Could you go in a little bit more detail on your direct cost program, specifically how the health trends are going and how your pricing is in that area?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Sure. Yes, Jim as I mentioned on our call the last quarter. We have seen a very positive year in 2016 for our trend in increasing cost of healthcare. And we because of what's going on in the marketplace now and coupled with the fact that we renegotiated our administrative contract with UnitedHealthcare in the third quarter of last year that started effect in January of this year. We're going to see another very low year trend increase in healthcare cost. I would say conservatively in the 2% to 3% range, which is obviously quite good. And so that will translate into pricing for customers that are new and renewing in that they won't have such big increases. So for us, it's not a matter of the revenue side of the defense, it's a matter of the direct cost side and how low we manage those trends. We are continuing to see customers – new customers that are sold come in with and select a lower cost, higher deductible plan. And we're also seeing new employees that are hired in the existing clients when they get to come in and select. They're also selecting lower cost higher deductible plans. So all of those facts kind of start to drive our drivers to the low cost, but at the same time, you'll look at the – you see the revenue side because that's where we get the allocations, they'll be lower to.

James Macdonald

Analyst

And switching gears a little bit, you talked about some of your new workforce administration offerings, but in general, can you talk about your adjacent business units and is that area growing faster than the core or still growing about the same? In other words, is the gross profit from that increasing or decreasing?

Richard Rawson

Analyst

Yes. It's actually – this is interesting because of the worksite employees are growing at 13%, 12.5%, the contribution at the gross profit line for the business performance solutions has got to be a lot higher than that in order for us to maintain the same level of gross profit per worksite employee per month contribution. And so that's what we're seeing for 2017 will be a same similar at the gross profit per worksite employee per month contribution, but they're actually growing at a higher rate.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Actually, Jim, we want through some organizational changes over the course of last year in those units to control some cost and to allocate to get the sales group in with the rest of our sales organization get the technology group further integrated into our technology organization and the same with operations. And those moves really did help on managing the cost side and now they're really in a position to move forward. Good example that is this new bundle in workforce administration in the core and like I mentioned in my comments, I believe we could see some real acceleration there that in this case would move that number up from what Richard was talking about. We didn't want to bake that in because it's too new, but we're really excited about these what used to be kind of individual business performance solutions and strategic business units that are now integrated further into the organization and now these services can be packaged together and we really think that’s going to lead to faster sales growth in those units.

Richard Rawson

Analyst

Yes. Part of the technology platform for the workforce administration which is why we decided to move to it is because it actually is the same technology platform that works very well for our mid-market prospects and customers that decide not to go into workforce optimization. So regardless to the size, we now will have one platform to deliver the basic payroll and other components. And so that automatically will create some operating efficiencies as we move through 2017.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Tobey Sommer from SunTrust. Your line is open.

Kwan Kim

Analyst

Hi. This is Kwan Kim substituting for Tobey. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is with the surging NFIB small business optimism, which in December hit the highest mark since 2004, what are some of the concerns you are hearing from your customers post election? And when do you expect the level of optimism to translate to increase hiring?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

That's a good question. It’s kind of a crystal ball type question and we did see as I mentioned in my comments, it kind of an uptick in business owner sentiment, but we did not see that translate into hiring yet. However, year-end is always a little bit quirky in terms of how hiring works. And so it's kind of hard to tell there's a lot of churn and fluctuation going on at that time. But I do believe that as we say some of these policies get into effect and really just the optimism of the business owner community, it will translate into hiring over the course of the year. Now we built into our forecast model kind of the same level of net hiring we had over the last year which was a low year compared to historical averages. But we thought it was best to kind of leave that as upside in the model and hopefully, we'll start to see that higher income in over the next couple quarters.

Kwan Kim

Analyst

Thank you. And could you update us on the IRS approval of PEO applications to get the double payroll taxation issue out of the way?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

You bet. Sure, we're hopeful that that will be resolved fairly soon, but you never know since it’s the IRS. And for just for everyone to refresh your memory this bill was passed in December of 2014 and the requirement of the statute was that the rules would be promulgated by mid-2015 and everything would go into effect in January 2016. Well, the rules finally just got initially published last year and now another round of those recently, they do start taking applications in the fall, but as up to our knowledge, none have been approved at this time. And so it's taking a little longer based on just the way our government works, I guess, but sooner or later, we'll have that approval and that we hope it sooner in the year than later and that would have a nice effect if the gross profit line and would help us not have to build an additional cost for new accounts that come on later this year. But we're not about to build that into a model until we have that paper in our hand.

Kwan Kim

Analyst

Thank you. Last one for me. Are there other legislative initiatives that you have your eyes on as potentially being impactful in your business?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Well, obviously we just – whatever happens in a repeal-and-replace environment, we will be all over that in the middle of that. But any time there's change that's going on. It's really good for us because business owners don't have time to figure out what Congress is doing. And have that trickle down through the carriers and through the healthcare community into what they need to do with their specific business in terms of their benefit plans for employees and that's part of what service we're delivering to our highly-skilled and trained business performance advisor.

Kwan Kim

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Mark Marcon from R.W. Baird. Your line is open.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Good morning. Congratulations on a great year and thanks for the comprehensive guidance. Sounds like things are really firing in the right direction.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Thanks Mark.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

I was wondering - could you talk a little bit about the workforce administration? It sounds really promising. To what extent do you anticipate existing clients switching to that as a way of maintaining retention, as opposed to being a really effective arrow in your quiver to drive new sales from new clients? And how should we think about the pricing and profitability of that solution as a substitute for your optimization?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Great, great question, Mark. Thank you for that question. We're really excited about this because workforce administration is really going to help us deliver on the promise of really expanding our customer base, casting a wider net. When we go out and see, this coming year we will see 30,000 business owners face-to-face and historically we've had a 10% or 12% close rate into workforce optimization. We think we can have that many close into workforce administration, although it’s too early to tell, but we know this bundle makes a lot of sense for someone who's just not quite ready to pull the trigger. And so we think that as an entry point bringing them into a premium service bundle like this, really attracts the right prospect into our ecosystem if you will. Now as far as moving up to workforce optimization, it is – optimization is so much more fully integrated plus the liability transfer, plus the cost ability and cost management on benefit that is a real make sense move into a workforce optimization once they've been on that a little while, we believe. We believe that because we saw even in the renewal process, customers who were considering leaving, once we presented workforce administration some of them say, yes that's what I'm looking for and went to that, but a lot of those looked at workforce administration and reaffirm what was available workforce optimization what those differences were, so we think it's really a nice way and you may remember that work the same way in our mid-market. A couple years back when we first introduced that concept.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Yes.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

So yes, we're really excited about that we think that's going to help a lot of ways, even for example of the BPAs, it's a little bit easier for them. There's less complexity in that sale. So they can get some good momentum earlier in their career possibly even ramp up faster or lower the turnover rate of BPAs, all those things are really important. So as you can tell, we're pretty excited about it. Now on pricing and competition, I think that's another important factor to understand. It is still built on a per employee per month type basis, but these are not co-employee worksite employee, so this is basically a bundle of BPS solutions that comes into our business model at the gross profit line in the BPS solution line not the markup for our HR services for co-employment. So as we see that success that's what we’ll see the upside in our gross profit per worksite employee from that contribution. The other thing that's exciting about it from a pricing standpoint is that when we go in with our premium solution as you know other co-employment solutions come in well below our pricing, and they even have some that it’s kind of hard to tell whether they're really co-employment or whether they're traditional employment or some hybrid. And so there's a lot of other lower cost offerings out there. We are offering kind of brackets that with a premium level traditional employment service and we're able to really explain the difference between our two in that – in our view of course, in inferior model that lands somewhere in between. And so we think that when clients can choose options that are both Insperity high touch options, our customer will come our way more often.

Douglas Sharp

Analyst

I think the last part to this. Paul mentioned it a minute ago and that is this workforce administration because it is a bundle of several items put together. It is the only offering in the marketplace at this point that is build on a per worksite employee per month basis. In other words, we've got several other folks that have offerings that offer some similar stuff, but it's all, a la carte and so because another advantage for us in our business performance advisors that they could sell less in a per employee per month basis.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

It sounds like a great addition. When you said brackets, so relative to some of the lower cost options that are out there, some of which are directly comparable and some of which seem like they might be, but they really aren't this would come in below those, but above some of the really low scale?

Douglas Sharp

Analyst

Right, that’s correct.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Yes, Mark, when I think you'll have other competitors in the PO space, we will have to justify value maybe for the first time in stead of sell on price.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Yes. And then the gross margins on this would be comparable to your general BPS gross margins?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. Oh yes.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Great. And then on the HCM – how different is that going to be?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Well, it's really amazing because it's going to be quite different here. We've had them side by side, where we can look at them with users in the road. And I would say its like moving from more of a portal environment where you can tell you can move in from here to here and here and you're using different applications within a portal. It’s like moving to a fully integrated HCM solution where it's just much more intuitive and quicker to get to everything that you want on an ongoing basis. It’s just a lot closer to you and gives you that feeling. So the folks that sat in front of the screen and used it, they were pretty excited about that and so…

Mark Marcon

Analyst

That's great. And then a couple of quick follow-ups, just average client size, how was that trending both in terms of mid as well as your core?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Yes. It's been moving up some on both fronts and some were kind of keep an eye on and we'll kind of weigh in how the workforce administration option now plays into that, but again and also as we add more mid-market account you are going to have that average naturally move up, but it's been moving up.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jeff Martin from ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Good morning.

Douglas Sharp

Analyst

Good morning.

Richard Rawson

Analyst

Good morning, Jeff.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Paul, could you talk about the bundled nature of the premium workforce administration offering that's going to be coming out; how that compares with what was, from my understanding previously, an a la carte? And which services are going to be bundled and how much flexibility there's going to be to that.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Sure. There is still will be a bundle plus approach to that where we've put in the bundle what folks really basically have to have to payroll time and attendance, some HR support through our online support with a person available for escalation of an issue, and all the employee administration and process support that comes within an HCM system. But coupled with that, it's really important to understand, our strategy is a software with a service mindset. We are a service company with great technology not a technology company trying to build a service organization. That's a completely different scenario and that's why I think we'll have a competitive advantage of the marketplace. Our support people, our client service people, our HR professionals, they're not technology people teaching how to use software. They are HR professionals, helping you get out of the software, what you intended to do in the first place when you bought it. So in addition of that is that level of care from an account manager, from someone who knows your company, and cares about your business and cares about your success. That's what makes it a premium bundle in that space. And we think it’s – what we've seen so far is pretty encouraging, it seems to be quite a game changer out there.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Okay. And then wanted to touch on the starting point for the year. You mentioned net loss of 1,400 worksite employees in January. Is that all hiring within or negative net hiring within the client base or is there anything else to that?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

That was it; it was basically the net change between layoffs and new hires in the base and it was more than we expected. I really didn’t expect to see that as a starting point, because it does seem really that consistent. I mean the year end labor market was not great, but not bad. But we've had periods in our history where the reality of our numbers, which comes directly out of – remember we’re the HR department. So we are processing every new hire and we're processing every termination. So our system doesn’t lie. But sometimes we've had in the past, we don’t line up exactly on a month-to-month basis with what you hear in the labor report out there. This is one of those types.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Well, if you take sentiment as a leading indicator, it would seem that that could reverse pretty quickly.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Yes. I would think so plus your normal seasonality hiring, hiring budgets get put in place and hiring plans get put in place then you have to implement, take 60, 90 days to get folks in there and before they're enrolled and paid. So it doesn't make us pessimistic at all about the net change over the course of this year.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Do commission and overtime trends conflict with that negative hiring that you saw in the quarter?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Yes. Our overtime was still in the 10% range with the capacity measure which is still a positive. And let's see commissions I need to take a look at here. I think they are in the 6% range which is pretty normal also. Again those data points are solid, sentiment strong, usually that means hiring is on its way.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Okay. One last question, if I could. The mid-market additions that you have that will accelerate the growth in the back half of the year in terms of the worksite employee base, could you give some detail as to how many clients those are and how many employees are tied to those clients?

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Well, its several clients and I really shy away from giving the specific employee counts because that does change over time as you bring it on new counts. But it's substantial enough to mention, but we've got our sales engine going and we were confident in those growth numbers and that just kind of help boost the confidence a little.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions. I will turn the call back over to Mr. Sarvadi.

Paul Sarvadi

Analyst

Well, once again thank you all for joining us today and we appreciate your interest and look forward to seeing you out on the road in the coming months and I look forward to putting another great year together on top of a very positive 2016. Thank you again. We will see you soon.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.