Michael Collins
Analyst · Piper Sandler.
Yes. It's Michael Collins. So geography-wise, that hasn't changed. So whether on the banking side in terms of Bermuda and Cayman, Guernsey, New Jersey, or on the truck side, if you add in Geneva and Singapore and Bahamas, that hasn't changed. So the offshore world is very small, and there's some very good jurisdictions and there are some jurisdictions that aren't quite as good. So we know what they are, but we're in the right places. Singapore, obviously, is a particular growth area. We're top 5 or 6 private trust company in Singapore now. We would never imagine that we could sort of compete in the banking world there. So we know exactly where we want to be, which is fee income. So geographies are exactly the same. And when you look at trust, private trust companies, they're pretty -- the good ones are pretty much across those geographies.
So that's going to stick. In terms of criteria, it's still going to be private trust. There's obviously other fee income businesses, the private equity likes, company administration, fund administration, which is very technology-intensive. We don't want to be in those businesses. We want to stay in private trust, which we've been in for 70 years. So, we're going to stick to that. The only thing I'd say is in terms of our price appetite, so basically, 8x EBITDA, maybe a little bit more at 10x EBITDA, if it's a bigger acquisition opportunity. And the 2 ways we can do it is a small trust company or a larger trust company. If we acquire a larger trust company and it's from a reputable seller, then we can acquire as a legal entity, if it's a little more difficult, we would just do sort of an asset purchase and choose each trust one by one. So essentially, nothing's changed. I would say if it's the right opportunity, we might consider paying a bit more. But in terms of geography and what we would be buying, it's consistent.