John Leonard
Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.
Yes. So, thanks. Remember that 5001 is up and running. We have an IND, in the U.S. and the regulators have seen our package and the preclinical work that goes with it. And despite what may have been the case with others, which I can't speak to, they've been satisfied with all the preclinical work that we've done. And so we're actively enrolling patients. You go back to the overall approach that we've tried to take in this space. And this is how we – now think about the biology and using genome editing, et cetera. We've gone all the way back to the beginning in terms of asking very fundamental questions just about how to get material into cells for starters in contrast with the preponderance of programs, which use electroporation we use lipid nanoparticles. We presented data that electroporation, no matter what’s your editing modality is introduces genome breaks in translocations. And that is something that happens in a predictable fashion, but with unpredictable results. And the work that we've done with lipid nanoparticles is just different from that. You essentially have levels of translocations of breaks that are indistinguishable themselves have never been transduced in the first place. So it starts there, and then it relates to the quality of the guides, the sequential nature of the work that we do is we introduce different genetic changes. And we carefully monitor that measuring as we go the effect. And what we've presented is that in our judgment distinct from what others have seen you have very, very low levels of off-target effects, A and B very low levels of disturbed genetic architecture. So we think that that puts us in a good position, just with the basics. Now, with respect to durability for those allo programs where we've seen graphs lost in a matter of weeks, we don't find that surprising outcome because it's well known that with reconstitution of the immune system, NK cells remove cells, that lack class one. And we're seeing that in spades, I think with other programs that our judgment falls short of what we're trying to do, where by taking a different approach. And we'll share more about that as year goes on with our allo program, that's not going to happen. We've presented data pre-clinically to show that in fact, those cells, they're treated the way we do it. We stand in our not susceptible 10-K media attacks. So we think that that augers well for not just having the material ready when a patient presents but also having persistence of the graft, which we think is really important for efficacy. And ultimately, we think that will address one of the fundamental problems in the space, which is the cost of goods. So altogether, we're hoping with allo programs, we're moving forward, we'll have the clinical data that addresses those points and shows that are thinking does in fact play out the way we believe it will.