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Novavax, Inc. (NVAX)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 9, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Novavax Third Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Operational Highlights Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Erika Schultz. You may begin.

Erika Schultz

Analyst

Good morning and thank you all for joining us today to discuss our third quarter 2023 operational highlights and financial results. A press release announcing our results is currently available on our website at novavax.com, and an audio archive of this conference call will be available on our website later today. Please turn to Slide 2. Before we begin with prepared remarks, I need to remind you that this presentation includes forward-looking statements, including information relating to the future of Novavax, its key strategic priorities, operating plans, objective, and prospects, full year 2023 and first quarter 2024 financial guidance, the amount and impact of Novavax's cost reduction plans, its future financial or business performance, conditions or strategies, its partnership, anticipated timing and outcome of future regulatory filings and actions, and the ongoing development, marketing opportunities, manufacturing capacity, and the future availability of our vaccine candidates, and key upcoming milestones. Each forward-looking statement contained in this presentation is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in such statements. Additional information regarding these factors appears under the heading Cautionary Note Regarding Forward-Looking Statements in the slide deck we issued this afternoon, and under the heading Risk Factors, and our most recent Form 10-K and subsequent Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and available at www.sec.gov and on our website at novavax.com, as well as subsequent filings with the SEC. The forward-looking statements in this presentation speak only as of the original date of this presentation and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of these statements. Please turn to Slide 3. Joining me today is John Jacob, our President and CEO, who will provide an update on our progress during the quarter for a three key priorities. Additionally, John Trizzino, Chief Commercial Officer and Chief Business Officer, will provide an update on our commercial activities; and Dr. Filip Dubovsky, President of Research and Development will discuss our clinical development and pipeline. Finally, Jim Kelly, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer will provide an overview of our financial results. I would now like to hand over the call to John Jacob. Please turn to Slide 4.

John Jacob

Analyst

Thank you, Erika and thank you everyone for joining us today. I'm pleased to be here today along with the members of our executive team to discuss our third quarter 2023 financial results and operating highlights and the important progress we've made across our three priorities. Let's begin with our first priority, delivering an updated product for the current fall vaccination season. Beginning with our launch in the U.S. and subsequent approval in the EU, we've demonstrated our ability to update our COVID-19 vaccine with seasonal strain changes and we are focused on commercial execution to gain market share and to deliver on our APA commitments. In the U.S., we started the season approximately three weeks ago with a shipment of doses to major retail pharmacies. We achieved our prelaunch goal of securing broad access to our vaccine, the only protein-based non-mRNA option in the country. Having launched several weeks after the competitor vaccines, we have limited preliminary data, and although early, we are seeing indicators of increased awareness and growing interest in our vaccine. In Europe, Nuvaxovid was approved in October. We are also awaiting authorization in Canada, UK, Australia, and New Zealand. In these markets, we have advanced purchase agreements under which we expect to deliver all of the contracted doses for the ‘23-‘24 season. Given the U.S. launch of our vaccine in mid-October, we believe it's too early to assess the true market uptake at this point in time. Market wide, we have seen lower than expected COVID-19 vaccine demand. Given the uncertainty in the U.S. market and approval in Europe several weeks behind our competitors, we expect to deliver revenue at the low end of our prior guidance for the season, with some of the revenue expected to shift into the first quarter of 2024. Importantly,…

John Trizzino

Analyst

Thank you, John. Please turn to Slide 6. As John outlined, in the U.S., we are approximately three weeks into our season launch. We are pleased that we have secured broad access to our vaccine through contracts with the majority of major retailers, including Costco, CVS, Giant, Publix, Rite Aid, and Stop & Shop, as well as top integrated delivery networks and major medical groups across the country. To date, the retail channel is the largest segment of the market with approximately 90% of COVID-19 vaccinations thus far, an availability of product was prioritized by distributors in the retail setting. Looking at the flu market, we see that the retail to non-retail channel split is currently approximately 65-35, which mirrors prior years. Therefore, we can reasonably expect that non-retail channel for COVID-19, which includes healthcare provider offices, could grow through the end of the year. Please turn to Slide 7. In the U.S., we have seen a slower season start than 2022 for COVID. At this point last season just over a half of COVID vaccines have been administered, so we expect that a significant market opportunity could remain with the potential to extend the season into the first quarter. However, we believe that multiple factors are leading to slower than anticipated vaccine uptake this fall, including distribution challenges in the U.S. market as it has converted from government purchase to commercial. The availability of multiple vaccines, COVID, flu, RSV, and updated pneumococcal for the first-time in the same season, trailing vaccine fatigue from the pandemic amongst others. Based upon the data available to date, and without a significant trend break, it is our estimate that the U.S. market could be as low as 30 million doses or as high as 50 million doses should we see a trend break,…

Filip Dubovsky

Analyst

Thanks, John. Please turn to Slide 12. Today, I will cover a couple of topics, the progress in our COVID influenza combination program, and how we're expanding the use of Matrix-M adjuvant. These topics exemplify different approaches to capitalizing on our core technology. I came to Novavax after seeing the original nanoparticle plus Matrix-M publications for influenza and understood the promise of the technology. This has been validated by the development, licensure, and commercialization of our COVID vaccine, the exact same technology is used in our combination vaccine. Please turn to Slide 13 for an update on the COVID influenza combination vaccine. As we previously discussed, the combination vaccine program is a priority because it has the potential to be a preferred product by consumers and healthcare providers. Previously, we evaluated 11 discrete formulations, and we've now selected the formulation to advance into the next study. I'm displaying neutralization responses on this slide. Neutralization responses are important because we believe they most closely predict clinical efficacy. On the left side of the slide are COVID neutralization responses. On the right, influenza neutralization responses for the three strains that will be included in future influenza vaccines. Our selected formulation compares well to Nuvaxovid as well as Fluzone High-Dose and FLUAD. Separately, we compared the geometric mean ratios of the HAI responses to these formulations. They achieved non-inferiority margins previously used in Phase 3 studies, paving the road toward late-stage development. I also want to remind you, we observed a favorable reactogenic profile with our combination vaccine that was clinically indistinguishable from the licensed influenza vaccine comparators. This appears to be a hallmark of our technology. We can increase the antigen load while maintaining acceptable tolerability. Overall, this points to a favorable product profile, demonstrating both a convenience factor of a two-in-one…

James Kelly

Analyst

Thank you, Filip. Please turn to Slide 17. Before discussing our third quarter financial performance, I would like to first share updates on three important financial themes to drive shareholder value. Today, we are sharing our updated financial guidance that includes our expectation to achieve total revenue for the COVID 2023, ‘24 season of $1.3 billion, reflecting the lower end of our prior guidance range of $1.3 billion to $1.5 billion, which was for the full year 2023. For updated total revenue guidance, we have combined the full year 2023 and the first quarter of 2024 total revenue to reflect the full delivery timing and revenue recognition of sales associated with the 2023-2024 vaccination season. Consistent with 2023, we originally expected no product sales revenue in the first quarter of 2024. However, due to the delayed start to and expectation for a longer season in the U.S., we expect some portion of revenue recognition will extend into the first quarter of 2024. In addition, outside of the U.S., some portion of the committed APA dose deliveries may extend into the first quarter of 2024. Therefore, our guidance now includes our expectation for approximately $1 billion for the full year 2023 total revenues and approximately $300 million of sales in the first quarter of 2024. This updated total revenue guidance of $1.3 billion reflects a lower U.S. sales estimate based on current market expectations offset by $150 million in favorability in our APAs plus grants and royalties. As noted earlier, our management team is leading into and focusing on our opportunity to create a robust and sustainable business platform for years to come. While we're pleased to be over $100 million ahead in our previously announced cost reduction efforts for R&D and SG&A for the full year 2023, we are prepared…

John Jacob

Analyst

Thank you, Jim. Please turn to Slide 22. I am proud of the significant progress we've made against our three priorities year-to-date in 2023, including the launch of our updated vaccine in the United States, being $100 million ahead of our cost reduction targets, paying down over $1 billion in current liabilities and enabling a potential Phase 3 initiation of our combination vaccine program in the coming year. We are excited about our ongoing U.S. commercial launch and the opportunities ahead as we begin to see the long-term shape of the business to come. This includes the potential for a sustainable COVID-19 business to generate annual seasonal revenue, a combination COVID flu program to capture significant future market opportunity, and our Matrix-M adjuvant to further strengthen and diversify our revenue generation opportunities for the company in the future. As I said earlier in the call, we are leaning into and focusing on our opportunity to create a robust and sustainable business platform for years to come, which includes an optimized and differentiated product presentation in 2024 and ‘25, as well as additional restructuring to create a more efficient business model, which will facilitate the late stage development of and a smooth transition to, the anticipated launch of our combination COVID-19 influenza vaccine in 2026. I remain confident in and grateful for our employees' dedication to advancing our objectives. We are also appreciative of the ongoing support of our loyal investors as we strive to deliver on our objectives with the intent of driving long-term shareholder value. And with that, we will now take your questions.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Roger Song from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Roger Song

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Great. Thanks for the comprehensive update. So a couple questions from us. Maybe start from the U.S. market. Understanding you're updating the guidance to $50 million to $150 million sales for this season. I want you to give us a little bit kind of color how confident you about that guidance given based on the third-party database seems you're still way behind that number so far and just curious about your thinking around the season how Novavax will capture further market share in the -- toward the end of the season and also more importantly, how do you think about the next season and the future to come in terms of the potential market share for Novavax protein-based vaccine for COVID. Thank you.

John Jacob

Analyst

Hi, Roger. Thank you for your question. Appreciate you joining the call. Roger, obviously, it's very early in the season right now. We're just a few weeks in with a few weeks of data before us. We've seen some very strong sparks that I'll ask John Trizzino to elucidate here for you on the call of early interest in the vaccine. And it's still one of the biggest unknowns is how large the market will really be. And that's something that no one's really sure about. And so I'll ask John to comment on a few of those things. But that remains the largest uncertainty is market size in the U.S. as we go through the...

John Trizzino

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks, John. Hey, Roger. Look, I think we're learning a lot every day about this current ’23-‘24 season with some number of factors that we talked about during the presentation about the late season start, the dynamics associated with multiple vaccines being in the market, the distribution strategies challenges that have been there. And then I think we're also dealing with total market size and some fatigue here. But related to us, I think that there's an opportunity for the balance of November and December as we look at ongoing pharmacy vaccinations. I think we also are going to see some significant growth and change in the non-retail sector based upon how low that that is right now. I wouldn't expect that there would be consumer behavior significant change of not going to the doctor's office. So I think we'll see that. And then we'll see it being a little bit elongated into Q1. As far as some of the early metrics that we're seeing, look, I think overall we said we were seeing low-single digits. In some of the national, in one in particular, national retailer, we're seeing 10% market share. This is where we're on a level playing field their product in the pharmacy and we're having good recommendation coming from the pharmacy, so we know we remain optimistic about the balance of the season. Obviously, that is all a controlled enthusiasm, if you will, understanding that we're kind of third to market. And we're also dealing with kind of consumer behavior where I'll just get the same vaccine that I had before and we're beginning to see from that ship taking place in the marketplace, so stay tuned.

Roger Song

Analyst

Got it. Yeah. Thanks, John.

John Jacob

Analyst

And roger the other part of your question was confident about next year and I think right now it's too early to tell as we said we got three weeks of data in our hands here, but we've seen that spark like John mentioned major retailer up to a 10% share and next year we anticipate having a better presentation unit dose vial right, BLA, a full label including pediatric data et cetera. So right now, we're much better than we were in years before when it comes to being on a more even playing field with mRNA but next year we're taking the learning from this year it's a transition year in the U.S. and really leaning into position ourselves very well for market penetration in 2024.

Roger Song

Analyst

Yeah. Okay. Great. And then so in terms of the ex-U.S. APA, can you let us know how likely this current $700 million in total, I think around $400 million for the remaining of the year into 1Q, will be further renegotiated or are those APA already set for the delivery upon approval? And also, you already got just recently got approval if that start to deliver based on the order. Thank you.

John Jacob

Analyst

Jim Kelly you want to handle that?

James Kelly

Analyst

Hey, certainly. So with our APA's including our guidance for the fourth quarter and first quarter, these are security APAs. They're tied to committed delivery schedules, of course, in the case of Europe, we have that approval, it's about getting the doses in the market. And for important markets like Australia and New Zealand, we're in the process of completing those regulatory filings to enable us to deliver those doses. Importantly, they're southern hemisphere, so when those doses arrive, they're going to have the type of shelf life to be meaningful to them as they enter their season. Now all of these APAs, they do come with stipulations that we have to deliver on time per the agreement, and if not, they can attempt to renegotiate. We currently have the expectation that we'll get them there on time per the agreement.

Roger Song

Analyst

Excellent. Great. Thank you. Maybe just one last one from me. Is the -- it's good you can directly move into the COVID flu combination trial, Phase 3 trial next year. Just given the additional operational expense cut for 2024, how do you think that will impact that Phase 3 plan and will you be able to sufficiently fund that trial without a partner? Thank you.

John Jacob

Analyst

Good question, Roger. Go ahead, Jim.

James Kelly

Analyst

Yeah. Great question and all I'm first reference back to what is I think a pretty exciting update from Filip today about a very lean approach impact and potentially accelerated path to get our combination product to the market as early as 2026 with a single pivotal study. I mean this is an important game changer. I think many folks heard something very similar from Moderna recently, and we think it enables us a path to market in a highly capital, I'll call it efficient manner. Okay. So with respect to the update we provided today, where we are going to drive our R&D and SG&A to below $750 million next year. That is inclusive of beginning this study next fall. And so we have contemplated that, that we are both focused on creating not just the competitive COVID product, but also accelerating our combination product while establishing a lean and focused organization to do so. And if you wouldn’t mind, I’ll talk a little bit about the cash runway that enables that. I described to you three really important components and I'm going to describe these components before factoring in the U.S. market opportunity which I think John did a really nice job highlighting. We can see a path through the end of 2025 to over $2 billion in cash through three critical pieces. I described as of today over $960 million in cash and expected cash combining cash on hand, accounts receivable, plus that $175 million expected contingent payment from Canada. Add to that, the $600 million at midpoint of current season ‘23-‘24 sales in the fourth quarter and first quarter in next year. And then we described over $750 million outstanding APA contract value for ‘24 and ‘25. You net out some of the up fronts and you've got clear visibility of over $200 or excuse me $2 billion in cash. Then as you seek to execute against that, lean and focused organization, reducing our cost structure to ensure we are prepared with financial strength for both next fall and to accelerate and invest in that combination program. So hopefully that's helpful.

John Jacob

Analyst

And Jim and Roger also that doesn't include what Jim just laid out that over $2 billion runway over the next 24 months does not contemplate any, anything else from U.S. from Europe from other markets like South Korea which just placed a new order with us from our R21 vaccine which just received to authorization or from things like UNICEF and low-income countries, all additional opportunities for the company to generate revenue in the coming years and even in the coming quarters potentially. So what Jim laid out is just what's primarily secured revenues already contemplated through APAs. One other point is on the $600 million Jim talked about between Q4 and Q1, the vast majority that is secured revenue through APAs, which we intend to deliver the full doses for and the minority of that is the first year launch in the United States So just to give you the opportunity we have before us from a revenue standpoint, a cash standpoint to carry us independently forward to our CIC program launch, and then the upside potential beyond for all of those other pieces.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Eric Joseph of JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Eric Joseph

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. In the U.S., looking across the pharmacies that you've contracted with to carry the updated vaccine, can you just -- like, well, how should we be thinking about their aggregate market share as it relates to seasonal vaccines, perhaps prior COVID seasons, flu seasons? Really getting at the question of how much of a ceiling, Walgreens not being a part of the mix, not being a carrier represents for your product uptake. And I guess should we see perhaps Walgreens revisiting that decision over the further season? Thanks.

John Jacob

Analyst

All right, Eric. I'll ask John T to comment. First John maybe on channel share and then the dynamic with Walgreens to…

John Trizzino

Analyst

Yeah. So I think you're talking about what is historical channel mix and then what is it looking like so far this year. So I made reference to some of that in the presentation where for flu, what we're seeing this year is about 65% in retail and 35% in non-retail. That's approximately accurate for the last five, six plus years or so. And typically, for a seasonal vaccine, for COVID last year, similar statistics and there was about 60%, 70% in retail and a balance in non-retail. We're just not seeing that at the moment. We're seeing sub, let's call it, a few hundred thousand doses in the non-retail channel based upon the IQVIA data that we're seeing so far. So we expect to see that change a bit in market mix. Consumer behaviors and actions don't change dramatically in that short period of time, but we're monitoring that to see if that's true. But so far, it's heavy, heavy retail sector and not yet seeing that shift. What we're also seeing is a season that's elongating. Typically for flu, you'd see 50% of the volume before the end of October. Again, we're not seeing that for COVID and we saw that for COVID last year. So there's a push for multiple reasons. I think there's a heavy burden on pharmacy vaccinations that is affecting all that. And so, we're monitoring it closely, as we said earlier on in the presentation, we're only three weeks into data that we're seeing. And so more to come over the next few weeks as we monitor that mix in the market.

James Kelly

Analyst

And, Eric, I believe the other part of your question was specific to Walgreens for John. And so, we're in over 14,000 retail outlets in the United States right now with broad distribution and also working with the idea and to make sure if physician network or other channels want the vaccine, it's readily accessible to them including our participation in the U.S. government bridge program, but John you may want to just put into context the Walgreens piece that Eric’s specific question there I believe.

John Trizzino

Analyst

Yeah. [Technical Difficulty]

John Jacob

Analyst

Hello, operator?

Operator

Operator

We can hear you.

John Trizzino

Analyst

Sorry. And it's important to understand that we're seeing that through that retail locations for all of the retailers. A great relationship with CVS. I think they're seeing a lot of vaccines coming through their locations. We're talking about programs to evolve that communication into the pharmacy to make sure that there's awareness looking at all any and all other opportunities to create awareness for the consumer as well as awareness for the health care provider and mentioning that earlier that, that awareness and acknowledgement is up over the last couple of months and we expect to see that trend continue.

John Jacob

Analyst

Eric, I’ll just add. Thank you, John. I'll just build one point on top of what John so clearly stated there which is that based on CVS alone that roughly 75% of all Americans are within 5 miles of one of their retail outlets. So the vast majority of Americans are very close, if they want our vaccine, they can get our vaccine that was the goal. Would we like to have Walgreens? Absolutely, we continue to work with them. They’re a good partner and will be for the long run, but despite that we’re close to most Americans and if they want our vaccine have access to it that's the important thing.

Eric Joseph

Analyst

Okay. Great. Maybe I can ask one follow-up for Jim, just thinking about sort of how the OpEx efficiencies perhaps should be recognized over the course of 2024? And maybe it's too early for this, but just in thinking about sort of the longer-term outlook, how whether we should anticipate sort of resumption of or build of OpEx in 2025, particularly as you think about obviously self-funding the CIC Phase 3 trial? Thank you.

James Kelly

Analyst

All right. Excellent. I'm going to begin this with what I'll call a profile of profitability that we're driving to. When we think about a long-term sustainable profitable organization, we're looking to -- I would call at least 50% commercial contribution margins. And what I mean by that is, sales minus COGS minus SG&A. All right. And then, of course, you reinvest in R&D under that. In doing so, you really got to get your gross margins and sort of sales minus COGS and that 70% to 80% range. So start with that as, hey, what's your blueprint to drive this company to be enough fishing and capital or cash producing entity, that's the vision. And then as we look at the evolution of that through ‘24 and ‘25, while we are describing an urgency to evaluate and act and drive to this cost structure. We're not today announcing, for example, a specific restructuring. We're previewing it for you, but you witnessed us earlier this year act with speed. And so you should expect that we will do so, so that we can recognize as much of those savings as early as possible to fully drive towards that $750 million or less in R&D and SG&A for 2024 while continuing to accelerate the CIC program and driving to a filing in 2025 that in turn could enable a launch as early as 2026. So those are the, I'll call it the blueprint, the guiding principles for where we're headed.

Eric Joseph

Analyst

That's very helpful. Thanks, Jim. Okay. Thanks for taking the questions, guys.

John Jacob

Analyst

Thank you, Eric.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brendan Smith from TD Cowan. Your line is open.

Brendan Smith

Analyst

Hi. Great. Thanks, guys for taking the questions. Just a couple quick ones from us. First, I wanted to clarify something I think I might have heard. For the ex-U.S. approvals, are you still in the process of completing some of these filings, or are they all done and you're just waiting on actual approval? And can you maybe provide any additional color you have on the potential timing or cadence for the remaining ex-U.S. approvals, kind of just based on your conversations there? It's kind of really related to Roger's earlier question, trying to understand just the possibility that any of those might get pushed a little past Q1 just kind of based on the cadence. And then related to that, can you kind of tell us how you're thinking about that $300 million in Q1? Have any of the Q4 APAs renegotiated at all or have you actually confirmed delivery in Q1 with some of these territories? Or is this kind of just a best guess based on the current trajectory of how things are going? And then, yeah, and then I have a follow-up. Thanks.

John Jacob

Analyst

Yeah, John Trizzino, why don't you take that first question and then we'll hear the follow-up.

John Trizzino

Analyst

Yeah. So ex-U.S. approvals, we are still waiting on several -- we have U.S. and EMA at this point. We're waiting on UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Taiwan, and also have expectation for WHO regions to be received within the next few weeks. And certainly that will allow us to make those deliveries on many of them before the end of the year and the possibility that some of that timing right roll over into Q1 as we've provided some guidance for in that kind of. I'll leave the explanation of the $300 million in Q1 to Jim.

John Jacob

Analyst

Yeah. Go ahead, Jim.

James Kelly

Analyst

Yeah, certainly. As John mentioned, we've got secured orders for delivery. If you look at the midpoint of our guidance, you are going to see that we've got APAs within that guidance that are approximately $500 million, so-call it sort of 475 to 525 spread of the fourth quarter and the first quarter. And with that said the way things are moving with our supply chain. We've got inventory ready to go. It's really about lining up those deliveries and with some of them like the European deliveries there could be some -- it could end up hitting in the fourth quarter in total, but we just don't want to over promise.

John Jacob

Analyst

Yeah. The bottom line is we don't expect any of this to drift beyond Q1, right. Jim, anything to add to that?

James Kelly

Analyst

No, that's it.

Brendan Smith

Analyst

All right. Great. Thanks so much. And then just on the cost cuts, can you maybe expand a bit on maybe where some of the new R&D cuts will be coming from, how they're distributed across 2024, and maybe whether these are being accounted for elsewhere in your filings, just kind of trying to get a little bit of a sense beyond the plan really what they'll look like and potentially if there's been any tangible changes and like accounting methods or the past few or upcoming quarters? Thanks very much.

James Kelly

Analyst

Yeah. So, we share with you that we're going to be reducing our R&D and SG&A by over $200 million, and also reducing our supply chain related expenses by over $100 million for a total of over $300 million in savings. Where did these come from? I should first say, this is not a function, I would say of forward-looking accounting. It is not. This is about real savings, real cash, real improvement to our cost structure. Where these come from? It's a focused evaluation that begins with the markets we serve and the return on net investment as we pursue the COVID opportunity and prepare for the combination opportunities. So start with focused investment. Then you assess your people, your sites, facilities, capabilities, capital investments to support that. You then evaluate third-party vendors and what it takes to have them along assisting us on that journey. And you resize and reshape all of it. So I'll give you specific examples of thinking along supply chain. One, we got to better manage the alignment of supply with demand. We got to avoid these write-offs, since ENO (ph). This has to do with how much we do at risk. As we further sharpen our focus on the demand signal, we've got to knock that out. Then you look at your internal operations and based on that you got to be leaner. I'm talking about facilities, reduced idle capacity, and any overhead support. And then we've got to continue to negotiate aggressively, third-party agreements relating to our supply network. So that's how you come after your supply side. On the R&D side, you heard from Filip a lean focused approach with CIC. That's how you do it. You get to market faster with CIC in a more efficient investment profile and then everything I said about commercial market and infrastructure in overhead we're going to drive for higher efficiencies to support this leaner focused company.

John Jacob

Analyst

And Jim just to build upon that and thank you for that clarity. The company was originally scaled and built for a much larger opportunity in a global pandemic and we demonstrated early this year with decisive action as a leadership team, management team and board that we can make the right decisions to scale down that business. And in fact, we're proud of the fact that this year, we're over $100 million ahead on the 2023 cost reduction targets that we announced earlier in the year and we did so without damaging our capabilities to operate. That's really key. And now as a new team here, management team, since I joined in the beginning of the year, we've had line of sight on strain selection to shots and arms cycled this year and an assessment of how the COVID market is unveiling itself post-pandemic. And with that line of sight and the knowledge of the capabilities we need to continue to operate efficiently and bring forward our program, we're confident we can make the real cuts, as Jim said, not by accounting function, but by reducing scope and scale and taking expense out of the system to make this company leaner and more focused and more competitive and able to independently bring forward that CIC program to a filing status. Do you have anything to add to that?

John Trizzino

Analyst

It's that focused, the way we're operating day in and day out, we’re laser focused on driving towards everything you just said, John.

Brendan Smith

Analyst

All right. Great. Thanks very much, guys. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Mayank Mamtani of B. Rally Securities. Your line is open.

Mayank Mamtani

Analyst

Good morning, team. Thanks for taking our questions. So maybe just a follow up to prior comment on cost of goods expectations for Q1? Any early insight on sort of the returns expected retail and non-retail segments? Now, you're trying to manage this as real time as possible. And I also noticed your grant revenue was particularly high today, and there were some write-offs, I guess. Could you just clarify what's sort of going on in that line item?

John Jacob

Analyst

Hey, sure. There's three particular pieces you hit there. One is, hey, what are we learning about returns? A second one has to do with grant revenue and what are we seeing there? And forgive me, Mayank, what's the third one?

Mayank Mamtani

Analyst

Yeah. The cost of sales line item today that was reported for COGS line (ph)?

John Jacob

Analyst

Yeah. You got it. Okay. So, beginning with returns. Hey, our return window really opened the 1st of November, so too early to tell what were pleased with this hey, we have really good, I'll call it specially distribution uptick and also sell through to ensure we've got our vaccine across the country available, but too early to give feedback on returns. We're going to be monitoring that one very closely, of course. On grant revenue, you are seeing across both grants and royalties that we’re up ticking our guidance by $100 million. Why? Filip has done an exceptional job working with our partners in the U.S. government to, enable us to take full advantage of that 1.8% [indiscernible] revenue. And in addition to that, there were multiple milestones tied to our success in being prepared for the U.S. market. We met them. And that's why you're seeing improvements there in addition about $12 million this quarter Matrix R21 revenue related to the malaria R21 vaccine as our partner Serum is preparing to launch as early as next year. So really important advancement there. Okay. Let's talk a little bit about the COGS line. What you're noting is that we had COGS in a quarter where we had no revenue. We had COGS of $99 million. All right. Let's talk about what's happening there. Does it benefit from the SK Bio settlement of $22 million? I think you know that, so that would take it up to about $121 million. What is in that? You've got $85 million or $82 million in excess capacity. We noted that. Add to that some scrap and overhead. What I mentioned to you is, hey, we got to be better. We can't have that happen. We got to be more focused on that front. And then finally, some unabsorbed overhead, about $20 million. Again, this is a part of being lean and focused. These are the types of things we're seeking to drive down. Hopefully that helps you.

Mayank Mamtani

Analyst

Yeah. Super helpful, very comprehensive. And then maybe just sticking on that regulatory milestones that I think was noted also in your Q, including for under 18 year old, maybe for higher dose that you're looking at for the elderly. Could you just fill update on what all is going on there for the updated ’23, ‘24 vaccine? And then also a similar roadmap for the CIC program, what sort of those optimization work remains. And also if you anticipate any ex-U.S. regulatory guidance to also come along with all the discussions we're having with the FDA?

John Jacob

Analyst

Mayank, why don't we ask Filip to address some of your questions on the clinical programs and the related regulatory milestones there. Filip?

Filip Dubovsky

Analyst

Thanks. You managed to squeeze a lot into that once run on sentence, Mayank. So we laid out the regulatory timings for CIC in the U.S. We think that's going to be most important market force right. It's product that we see demand from consumers as well as from health care providers and that’s our focus. The time once we laid out was their potential regulatory filing in 2025 with potential regulatory approval and in the market in ’26. Now as far as a high dose of product that this program was supported by U.S. government, we've finish enrolling that study or we will today. So the timelines of that aren't going to be available until the following year. Pediatric data, we previously said that we would be filing the – or we would have data available in the first quarter of next year. And we think that older age group will be relevant for the following season.

John Jacob

Analyst

I think we have time for one or two more questions here.

Mayank Mamtani

Analyst

Okay. I'll jump back into you. Thanks for the taking the question.

John Jacob

Analyst

Thank you, Mayank.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Alec Stranahan of Bank of America. Your line is open.

John Jacob

Analyst

Hi, Alec.

Alec Stranahan

Analyst

Hey, guys. Great. Thanks for taking our questions. A couple from us as well. The first is on the multi-dose format, given the demand kinetic you've seen to date. Do you see a risk of some doses in a vial not being used and what happens to those doses? Are they shipped back to you guys and how does that feed into the price or reimbursement to pharmacies? And then I've got a follow-up.

John Jacob

Analyst

Yeah. Good question, Alec. I’ll let John Trizzino address that one on returns.

John Trizzino

Analyst

Yeah, Alec. Look, we're in a five-dose vial, and I think, of course, it would, anticipated for future we'd be in some kind of unit-dose presentation and that's what the marketplace wants, and we're moving in that direction. As far as the use of those vials, we've made sure that there's flexibility to the healthcare provider in the use of that vial. So if not all five doses are used, there's an opportunity to return partial vials, and we're tracking that through a third-party provider of that returns process. So it's been made clearly communicated that our intent is to provide access getting product on the shelf and available that then it's good utilization of whatever is available and that period of time and that there is a returns provision in place that allows for that with no cost and economic disadvantage to the health care provider and then we monitored that on our end.

Filip Dubovsky

Analyst

And then quick comment on [indiscernible] pharma products highly common to have a return provision services far from uncharted territory will have the regular gross in that entry will make an estimate we've got visibility on our return rate as we seek to close the books for the fourth quarter based on both actual returns come in and then visibility through the channel. So this will be an important part of our revenue recognition go forward.

John Jacob

Analyst

And Alec, you said you had another question.

Alec Stranahan

Analyst

Yes. Just a quick one. I noticed some new language in the queue around the withholding the installment payment to Fujifilm. Is this due to a breach of contract or something else? Are there other vendors that you may seek to withhold payments to for similar reasons and just high level how you see the arbitration playing out? Thanks.

John Jacob

Analyst

Kelly, you want to take that one?

James Kelly

Analyst

So absolutely. Alec, you're exactly right. We have disclosed that with respect to the remaining two payments that were targeted for the third and fourth quarter, that's $68 million total, that we are currently in a dispute or difference of opinion with Fuji at this time, it's a legal matter, so I can't speak too much about it. You might remember that those payments were each subject to commercially reasonable effort to mitigate our exposure, and I think that's all I can say at this time.

Alec Stranahan

Analyst

Thank you.

John Jacob

Analyst

And time for one more question.

Operator

Operator

And our last question comes from Vernon Bernardino, a Private Investor. Your line is open.

Vernon Bernardino

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question from H.C. Wainwright. Can you comment on what regulatory concurrence is being discussed for a final clinical study design for the combination vaccine? And I'll just throw the follow-up now. For the ‘24-‘25 season, can you give us your thoughts on what dynamics you expect regarding authorization of your updated vaccine and its role after that season? Thank you.

John Jacob

Analyst

Hey, Filip, you want to take the first part of Vernon's question?

Filip Dubovsky

Analyst

Sure. So, the major focus with us is going to be with the FDA, and this is really going to be part of a pre-IND discussion with them. Since we're filing an IND in the U.S. to support the U.S. study. That's an interaction that we have planned for the first quarter. We are going into that with a lot of data to bring to them, and that's why the timing is in the first quarter of 2024.

John Trizzino

Analyst

Yeah. So let me follow up on that next question, Vernon, on plans for ‘24-‘25. We're intending to have an updated profile for the vaccine that's being offered. We're looking at a unit dose presentation available on a more timely basis than we were able to this year, so earlier in the season availability. And then, of course, it's our reasonable expectation that we would be under BLA for the ‘24-‘25 season as well. So I think those are significant factors that are driving an improved uptake in market share and presentation to the marketplace.

John Jacob

Analyst

Thank you, Vernon and operator, I believe, we're at time at this point.

Operator

Operator

And this will conclude our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to John for any closing remarks.

John Jacob

Analyst

I want to thank everyone for their time and energy and for your questions and wish you a great close to your week. Appreciate you all, thank you.

Operator

Operator

The meeting has now concluded. Thank you for joining and have a pleasant day.