David Butters
Analyst · Michael Webber of Wells Fargo. Please ask you question
So couple of things that I think have given the momentum more energy than I had anticipated; first of all, I think there was a fundamental decision by the partnership and Enterprise that they wouldn’t force everyone to take a 10-year contract on the term or site. And that was a major factor that helped with the customers. 10 years is a long term partly because they can’t hedge with ethane or ethylene. The second is I think there were a couple of other companies that were talking about the potential of a specific ethylene terminal and I think some of the customers were thinking, well, let’s try to play one versus, yes, who is going to do it, what kind of better terms I can get from one or another and things were a bit slow. When we shook hands on our joint venture and announcement, suddenly the Enterprise/Navigator deal appeared to be solid. When you explain all the advantages that Enterprise has in creating a terminal because of the connectivity throughout Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, anywhere there is a ethylene cracker, there’s an ethylene pipeline owned by Enterprise to bring it to someplace. You recognize that this storage facility -- our common storage facility in the heart of Mont Belvieu also created a strategic advantage for producer to be able to warehouse some of that excess ethylene and now having it stored there if they found good opportunity to move it outside of the country, boy, it’s an easy little run down from Mont Belvieu to Morgan’s Point. That kind of concept was not lost on people. And the fact that it is a transaction that most people including ourselves believe is absolutely going to happen and happen more quickly, have brought in other players who say I cannot miss out because there may not be a second terminal, and indeed my guess there won’t be. This is never going to be a giant business, i.e., ethylene exports. It is not like propane. It is a market that’s much smaller and it’s a niche market, but it’s a market that if you’re there, as we are, so there is a terminal operator, an owner and you have these instruments, i.e., ships that can effectively move that product, you are having an enormous advantage to capture unusual ability -- unusual profits. But it’s never going to be -- make it clear, it’s never a giant business. It can’t be giant. But it’s a niche market with high-quality things that I love, long-term contracts, specialty-natured technical op -- top technical operations, customers that are high creditworthy customers and long-term charters and the long-term asset.