Howard Yu
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open
No problem, Jason. So, as it relates to VBP, let me go ahead and provide a little bit of quick framework here. For us, our China business on the specialty side is about 100 – actually a little bit over $175 million, a $100 million or over $100 million in the implant side, and over $75 million on the ortho side. Remember that most of our business we focus is on the private sector. That's about 70% of our collective business there and that's a faster growing segment we see that as being more opportunities to differentiate with innovation. VBP is primarily impacting the public sector. And so, of course the goal of VBP as we know is to reduce treatment costs and therefore expand access overall. DSOs will certainly be involved in it as well. And at this point, we do expect a little bit of spillover into the private sector. So, as it relates to the outcome of VBP and where we sit today, implants, it's a national program, the bidding is complete, and it's being currently rolled out. Envista, our brands have won in both categories as well. And so, we expect that it's going to be reasonably favorable for us as it relates to being a selected vendor, but recognizing of course that the pricing on that side will probably be about a 50% drop. On the ortho side, much smaller so far, VBP has only impacted about 15 provinces. We think that it's less than 10% of the collective market there. We were, as Amir said in the comments, the only multinational selected to win on the bracket and wires side. We think that the pricing there is going to be a headwind of about 35%, roughly. And in both these cases, we're reasonably pleased with the outcome certainly being selected there. Your next question around margins, maybe I'll address the Spark question. Spark is currently in investment mode. Clearly, we're seeing the momentum and are very encouraged by our growth on that business. And so, we'll continue to invest there. For the duration of 2023, I think we're going to continue to be in investment mode. Clearly, that business is dilutive to our margins today. We think that longer-term that we can get the margins up above fleet average, but today it is dilutive and will be likely for the duration of 2023 as well. The one thing that we have seen that certainly is very encouraging as it relates to our investments is that quarter-over-quarter sequential productivity and the automation investments are paying off. And so, we're continuing to see that improve quarter-over-quarter.