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Nuvve Holding Corp. (NVVE)

Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, May 14, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Nuvve Holding Corp. First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. On today's call are Gregory Kolon (sic) [ Poilasne ], Chief Executive Officer; and David Robson, Chief Financial Officer of Nuvve. Earlier today, Nuvve issued a press release announcing its first quarter 2024 results. Following prepared remarks, we will be opening the call up for questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call may contain forward-looking statements. While these forward-looking statements reflect Nuvve's best current judgment, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those implied by these forward-looking projections. These risk factors are discussed in Nuvve's filings with the SEC and in the earnings release issued today, which are available on our website. Nuvve undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect future events or circumstances. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Gregory Poilasne, Chief Executive Officer of Nuvve. Gregory?

Gregory Poilasne

Analyst

Thank you, and good afternoon to everyone here today. Thank you for joining our first quarter 2024 results call. We are pleased to have the opportunity to update you on the progress we are making in scaling our business and positioning Nuvve for our future growth. The global environment in the electric vehicle space remains tough. The negative perception is real, especially in the consumer space. We can also see that through the outcomes of companies such as [indiscernible] Tritium, and free space such as Proterra. Since Nuvve became a public company, our focus has been on the School Bus business, which is heavily supported by EPA funding. This funding is essential for school districts to adopt clean transportation and bring the cost of school buses down. The current process of reducing funding makes the adoption [ Accurium ] like in nature. School districts are waiting for the outcome of the funding before making the decisions. The first quarter 2024 as always been expected to be in between 2 different fundings, and we have known it, it will be soft. We remain very excited about our leadership position in the School Bus space, and it's still one of our key revenue drivers for 2024, so it makes the revenue very lumpy. In order to smooth out our revenue and expand our business, we have recently announced 2 key projects. The first one is with the Fresno Economic Opportunities Commission. In January, we announced that Nuvve has been selected by the Board of the Commission to deliver on the $16 million transportation and renewable energy project. I can share with you today that we have signed a contract with Fresno EOC to execute on these projects, one key subsidies have been finalized, which we expect to be over the next 60…

David Robson

Analyst

Thanks, Gregory. I will start with a recap of first quarter 2024 results. In the first quarter, we generated total revenues of $780,000 compared to $1.85 million in the first quarter of 2023. The decrease was primarily driven by the reduction in charger hardware sales impacted by the timing of EPA funding award. Margins on product and service revenues were 34.7% for the first quarter of 2024 compared to 21.2% in the year ago period. The increase is primarily due to a higher mix of service revenues and improved pricing on hardware sales this quarter compared with last year. As a reminder, margins can be lumpy from quarter-to-quarter depending on the mix. DC charger gross margins at standard pricing generally range from 15% to 25%, while AC charger gross margins are approximately 50%. But in dollar terms are a small fraction of the revenue of the DC charger. Risk service revenue margins are generally 30%, while software and engineering service margins are as high as 100%. Operating costs, excluding cost of sales was $7.5 million for the first quarter of 2024 compared to $7.9 million for the fourth quarter of 2023 and $8.3 million in the first quarter of 2022. We have continued to drive efficiencies through 2023 and into 2024, resulting in lower overhead costs. We expect to realize additional improvements in our operating expenses in future quarters this year. Cash operating expenses, excluding cost of sales, stock compensation and depreciation and amortization expense declined to $6.3 million in the first quarter of 2024 versus $6.9 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 and $7.2 million in the first quarter of 2023. Other income was $0.5 million in the first quarter of 2024, up from $0.2 million in the year ago quarter. The current period benefits from a noncash…

Gregory Poilasne

Analyst

Thanks, David. Though this first quarter 2024 has been soft, this does not come as a surprise. Our expectations for 2024 have not changed. We expect the School Bus business to pick up in the second and third quarter with the EPA Round 2 and Round 3. We are also executing on the awards that we have received at the beginning of the year with some of them contributing to our 2024 revenue. We look forward to sharing more with you in the near future.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Brian Dobson with Chardan.

Gregory Pendy

Analyst

It's Greg Pendy in for Brian Dobson. Just a question. In light of the $15 million to $20 million in revenue guidance and right now, it looks like the inventory uptick to, I think you said $6.1 million. How much -- what do you think a normalized year-end inventory level could be? Do you think it could be around $2 million? Or just trying to get a feel where the $15 million to $20 million, how much you can burn off for working capital and inventory?

David Robson

Analyst

Greg, I think that inventory level can come down a couple more million dollars between now and the end of the year. Of course, it really depends on the timing of when we deliver orders. But I think about it as, call it, longer term, 3 to 4 months of inventory on hand of future sales.

Gregory Pendy

Analyst

Okay. And then just one more question. You mentioned the EPA rounds hitting in 2Q and 3Q. Can you kind of give us a little bit more color on notable dates that we should be looking out for within those 2 quarters?

Gregory Poilasne

Analyst

David, do you want to take that?

David Robson

Analyst

Greg, I just cut out 1 second. Can you just repeat it one more time? I didn't hear.

Gregory Pendy

Analyst

Sure. Sorry about that. Just in light of the EPA around hitting in 2Q and 3Q, can you call out any notable dates we should be looking out that would be publicly released on some of these school bus orders or time lines?

David Robson

Analyst

From what Gregory said in his remarks, is really the timing of when we see those announcements coming out in the Q2 to Q3 timing, but I don't have any more precision on that.

Gregory Pendy

Analyst

Okay. No problem. All right.

Gregory Poilasne

Analyst

And may be to answer more the question there is really about when we get the orders from the school districts, right? So I mean the Round 2, there are a few -- they are some that could be larger orders, and so we might publicize that. But it's really -- the time line is really in the hand of the school districts very often, right?

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Gregory Poilasne for any closing remarks.

Gregory Poilasne

Analyst

We appreciate everybody listening in today, and we are looking forward to sharing more with you on the progress we are making. We're very excited about 2024 and on. And looking forward to our communication at -- for about Q2. Thank you. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.