Christopher D. Maher
Chief Executive Officer
Okay. So I will I will unpack a few things there. So first, you know, Eric's been helping us for the last 2 years with the strategy and with recruiting. he is functioned as a consultant. He was not an operating officer of the bank. And this opportunity to bring him on as an operating officer, I think, will help him be even more effective for us both in recruiting talent and in bringing client relationships we are bullish on that. We feel very comfortable that the pace at which that business is growing that it should be a long term part of our portfolio, and that, you know, although the 2.5 percent is not the best funding around, this environment, 2.5 percent funding that you can grow. Something you can make money off, and we can expand our margin on. So we feel very good about that. In terms of kind of direction, no different direction. We would be hopeful that we might be able to hire teams in a little bit of a faster fashion. We think that the productivity of the existing teams has the potential to improve for 2 reasons. Obviously, Eric Cumming, I think, a great leader. A lot of folks know him. In addition to that, we only rebranded the Flushing branches on September 20. We started advertising the OceanFirst brand in New York in October. So. And we tried to have a pervasive campaign, you know, with it is a subway, Long Island Railroad, print, social media, all sorts of stuff. I think that as our brand becomes more recognizable in New York, going to help us attract more talent. it is also going to help us attract clients, and it is gonna make the, you know, client experience a little bit easier. So we are just weeks into having 1 brand, but we think with that brand in New York, and Eric's addition, we have an opportunity. Also asked about geography. The strongest, you know, geography for the premier teams has been and will continue to be New York. that is where Eric had his focus for the last 20 plus years. And the strength of that franchise is in Long Island, the boroughs in Manhattan. And that is exactly where these 30 plush and branches help us out. So, you know, we think there is a potential to grow a little faster next year. But, obviously, when Eric's got himself settled here and all that, we will refresh our targets. I appreciate that. Can you speak a little bit more on where the deposit growth this quarter came from? Maybe touch on flushing trends any success on fighting off any attrition? It seemed like Premier was most of the core deposit growth. And then you added some wholesale as well. So just kind of speak to where the deposit growth came from in the different channels. It was really the deposit growth was all commercial. So it was Premier, and we consider Premier largely commercial. I mean, some of it is high net worth people, but they function more like commercial folks than non. Than consumers. So most of it was premier, CNI, CRE, those verticals. The retail base across both the OceanFirst and the new Flushing franchise was stable. And, you know, we feel comfortable with that. We were in that awkward period where we did not wanna advertise the Flushing brand. And we could not advertise the OceanFirst brand. So we will have a better update on that as we get through the fourth quarter. But consumers within a kind of a range is kind of range bound right now. We hope to be able to grow that and retire some of the you know, brokered and wholesale as I talked about earlier. But we will give you an update on that next quarter. But so far, we are feeling very good about the stability in the franchise. And thus far, I think Patrick used a 40% beta on Fed increases. that is the best we can guess now, but that seems to be what is going on. that is great. And my last question is, you talked a little bit Patrick talked a little bit about the EPS gap for next year and the wildcards on OpEx. The guidance is really strong on the OpEx side. But what are some of the wildcards on better revenue? Is it is it really loan growth acceleration? or NIM? Just kind of your thoughts on where the revenue has upside, potential upside next year. I think the upside in. We are gonna have to be, you know, very thoughtful as we kinda go through the next year, Patrick. Mentioned, we have got more than $1 billion of assets repricing in the next quarter. And we average about that going forward in 2027. it is a little more than 3 billion in, 2027. The upside would be where those rates go to. Which is a to some degree, a factor of competitive pressure. But it is also a factor of, you know, building good relationships and having the ability to get you know, paid for the relationship that you bring to the table. So I think in terms of margin, any incremental progress over where we have guided, is more likely to come on the asset side. And then, potentially, you know, we could see you know, a little bit of movement of fees over time too if the origination volumes continue to grow, that may bring more swap fees for us.