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Oil-Dri Corporation of America (ODC)

Q4 2020 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 14, 2020

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Company Representatives

Management

Dan Jaffee - President, Chief Executive Officer Susan Kreh - Chief Financial Officer Molly VandenHeuvel - Chief Operating Officer Jessica Moskowitz - Vice President, General Manager of the Consumer Products Division Flemming Mahs - President of Amlan International Laura Scheland - VP, General Counsel Leslie Garber - Manager of Investor Relations

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2020 Investor Teleconference. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Dan Jaffee, President and CEO of Oil-Dri Corporation. Please go ahead.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Great, thank you. Welcome everybody to our fourth quarter and fiscal year end teleconference for Oil-Dri Corporation of America. This is actually our completion of 80th fiscal year. Joining me today will be our CFO, Susan Kreh; our Chief Operating Officer; Molly VandenHeuvel; our Vice President and General Manager of the Consumer Products Division, Jessica Moskowitz; the President of Amlan International, Flemming Mahs, our VP and General Counsel Laura Scheland; and as always our Manager of Investor Relations, Leslie Garber who will walk us through the Safe Harbor Provisions.

Leslie Garber

Analyst

Thank you, Dan and welcome everyone. On today’s call comments may contain forward-looking statements regarding the company’s performance in future periods. Actual results in those periods may materially differ. In our press release and our SEC filings, we highlight a number of important risk factors, trends and uncertainties that may affect our future performance. We ask that you review and consider those factors in evaluating the company’s comments and in evaluating any investment in Oil-Dri stock. Thank you for joining us. Dan.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Thank you, Leslie. I’d like to turn it over to Susan to go through our financial results for the quarter and fiscal year. Susan.

Susan Kreh

Analyst

Thank you, Dan. Fiscal 2020 was a record year for Oil-Dri, both for net sales and net income. Consolidated net sales for the year of $283 million reflected 2% increase over the prior year. This growth was primarily due to increased demand for our cat litter and animal health products. Total annual cat litter sales within the U.S. and Canada increased by 9% compared to the prior year. In addition, our co-packaging coarse cat litter business, which is reported in our business-to-business products group also grew 6% over the prior year. In addition to growth in cat litter, our full year sales of animal health products increased 12% versus the prior year, driven primarily by growth in Latin America, Mexico, Africa, and Asia, excluding China. On the flip side and to a lesser extent, demand and less revenues in our agricultural, fluids purification, industrial and sports products were all negatively impacted by COVID-19. And while revenue grew by 2%, annual consolidated gross profit increased 16% with margins improving from 24% in the past year to 27% in fiscal 2020. Now, for those of you who follow us on a regular basis, you might recall that in some of our businesses freight is a prepay and add, and therefore we use gross profit per-ton as our key metric to manage the business, and in fiscal 2020 we set a new record increasing our gross profit per-ton by 15% over the prior year. This improvement was driven by lower natural gas and freight and warehouse housing costs, which were offset by slightly higher packaging and non-fuel manufacturing costs. Also called out separately in our financials and included in our operating results was a pre-tax gain of $13 million associated with the fourth quarter prudential intellectual property and licensing agreement. Our selling, general…

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Great, thank you. Great recap Susan of great year, so that makes it fun. Before we open up the line for Q&A, I would just like to remind you to please prioritize your questions and ask your most important question first and then after you do get to the end of the queue, so that you allow other investors to ask their most important questions. So let's go ahead and open the line.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Ethan Starr who is a Private Investors. Your line is now open.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Good morning.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Hi Ethan.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

You've been hiring more people for Amlan and you increased your ownership in the Mexican subsidiary over last year. So I'm wondering, what are the prospects for Amlan over the next year, particularly with regards to Varium and has Varium been licensed in more countries and U.S. states?

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Okay, Flemming, why don't you handle that question?

Flemming Mahs

Analyst

Sure, thanks for asking. This is exciting ground for us and we're moving quickly with the investment to move Varium and our portfolio into markets that we have not addressed in the past and we see good opportunity for growth opportunity.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Okay.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

With regards – let me just add, with regards to Mexico, Susan I don't think we increased our ownership during the year. It might have just gotten more transparent, but our ownership in Mexico stayed the same in fiscal 20. Susan, is that correct?

Susan Kreh

Analyst

No, we did move up from 51% to 78% during specific year.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Oh! Alright, so then I stand corrected. Ethan, once again your ahead of me on the curve.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Well, it was in the K.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Oh! I do remember that move. Okay no, now I was forgetting that secondary move. Yeah, it’s there, your right.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Okay, any other color on this?

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

I mean, Susan, I don't know if you want to add any color to it. It was a matter of consolidating ownership and taking out some of the lesser players, so that we could have a greater influence on this business.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Okay, any more licenses for Varium in other countries and states.

Flemming Mahs

Analyst

We're continuing to add more licenses in more countries and we are continuing to add more supports to really push promotion as you've seen on the marketing side. There's been a lot more activity than in the past and that will also continue.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Okay, thanks. I’ll get back in the queue.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Robert Smith of Center for Performance. Your line is now open.

Robert Smith

Analyst

Alright, so thanks and good morning.

A - Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Good morning, Perfo. The Center for Performance Investing, its long [ph].

Robert Smith

Analyst

So, alongside Ethan’s query, what are the principal objectives in Animal Health for this current year. I mean, do you have some targets that you're working against as far as - as the progress you're going to make?

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Very much so, yeah. I mean and Flemming’s kind of bullish [ph] on what I'm going to say, but as we're bringing on new people, salespeople, text service, support team, we've got a metric of revenue per headcount that we're trying to achieve, so that we make sure that we are getting the bang for our buck that we're expecting. And then as we achieve those, we are then going to roll on more people and keep the snowball rolling. But we're absolutely measuring our progress as we go. Flemming, anything you want to add to that?

Flemming Mahs

Analyst

No, I mean, the opportunity is still material and very exciting and so we're continuing to execute and expand our presence. I mean we've seen in the past where we are present with people. We do a lot better than when we go through a third party, so that's a key to growth, to have a presence and build our brand.

Robert Smith

Analyst

What do you principally have to overcome to move this along more quickly, in your opinion? What are the major things that you have to get over?

Flemming Mahs

Analyst

Probably education, you know that we have been a small player in the past and present in the distribution channel primarily, and now we're moving into the key accounts in the industry and getting our presence and brand awareness and our scientific information in front of them, so they can make a – they always make a very educated decision, but get to know us and building those relationships.

Robert Smith

Analyst

And in the commentary there was a reference to Mexico and equipment in Mexico. What is the equipment?

Flemming Mahs

Analyst

It's primarily swine artificial insemination and swine farm equipment.

Robert Smith

Analyst

Okay, thank you. I'll get back in the queue.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Thank you, Bob.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Ethan Starr, who is a Private Investor. Your line is now open.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Yes, it's really nice that you got a $13 million one-time payment in the fourth quarter. But as an investor, no matter how you sugarcoat it in the press release, the bottom line is you’ve lost money on an operating basis, and I'm just wondering – trying to understand why SG&A increased so much in the fourth quarter over last year and I hope it's not a trend.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

No…

A - Susan Kreh

Analyst

I can jump in.

A - Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Okay, you go ahead Susan.

A - Susan Kreh

Analyst

What I would say – what you said is true Ethan, but the reason I was trying to highlight the investments that we made, those were significant. They were about $6 million worth. We wouldn't have done those had we not had that $13 million or maybe likely would not have done that. It was opportunistic for us. The other thing we have in the fourth quarter is the bonus is significantly higher than it was last year.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Okay. Well, how much of that was like investments for the future, like the maintenance and advertising and how much was the bonus accrual?

Susan Kreh

Analyst

They were each about $6 million.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Oh! So $6 million in an investment and $6 million in bonus accrual.

A - Susan Kreh

Analyst

Yeah.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Okay, so the bonus accrual alone now, was the – does the $13 million one-time payment affect the bonus accrual?

A - Susan Kreh

Analyst

Yes, it does.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Oh! Okay.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Yeah, and we were a double bonus before that as well. I mean we had already maxed out through the third quarter. So yes in affected it, but really ultimately went back to the shareholders, because we – our bonus program caps out at double bonus and we were a double bonus through three quarters.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

No, the first three quarters were great. [Cross Talk] Go ahead.

Susan Kreh

Analyst

No, I was just going to say that last year we didn't pay a full bonus, because as you recall the first two quarters of fiscal ‘19 were a real struggle as we went live on our JVE [ph] ERP.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Sure. But you know, I really would appreciate it you know – I don't know, I mean perhaps you didn't know the full extent of the bonus accrual when you had the last conference call, but you know you specifically mentioned in the last conference call that the $13 million had already been received, yet you didn't you know make any mention of the huge increase in SG&A, which would've been appreciated had you known about it then.

A - Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Duly noted.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Okay, I'll get back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from John Bair, Ascend Wealth Advisors. Your line is now open.

John Bair

Analyst

Thank you and good morning. Hi there! Can you speak at all to the trends you’re seeing right now with regards consumer de-stocking. Has that kind of stabilized out or you’re starting to see a more normalized trend in that and also I was kind of interested. In you press release you said there was an increase in the coarse – what was it, co-packaged cat litter business was up and is that trend – I mean that kind of goes counter to what you know we've been seeing over you know the past couple of years. So I’m kind of curious where that plays out or how that plays out?

A - Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Sure. I’ll let Jessica take the destocking and restocking question and then I'll close with the co-pack answer.

Jessica Moskowitz

Analyst

Yeah, thank you for the questions. So we have seen things start to normalize again as it relates to the loading and then de-loading from COVID. Obviously you know can't predict -- don't have a crystal ball to predict that. We do expect to see potentially some additional loading again around the holidays as well, but I would say in general we have seen things start to stabilize in terms of you know the big swings up and down from an inventory loading perspective.

John Bair

Analyst

Okay.

A - Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Again, on the co-pack business, our major partner there has done a good job of getting – offsetting the U.S. decline in coarse cat litter as scoopable cat litter has become the cat litter of choice for consumers. They've done a good job of offsetting that with international business and so we've benefited from that, so that really was the key driver there.

John Bair

Analyst

So are you shipping that internationally or is that internationally sourced?

A - Dan Jaffee

Analyst

No, no, it’s all coming out. We make 100% of it. It's all coming out of our Georgia facility.

John Bair

Analyst

Okay, and then they ship it? I mean how do you – do you bury those costs or how does that [Cross Talk]

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

We make the product available to them on an [inaudible] basis and they handle all shipping, whether it's domestic or international.

John Bair

Analyst

Okay. Okay, well I've got another question, but I’ll pop back and…

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

You can ask it – I mean Ethan’s already done a couple. Ask your question and probably Bob will have a question.

John Bair

Analyst

It’s a fairly quick one. Just kind of curious on what you're seeing trend wise with orders for product coming through sources such as say Amazon online or Chewy or that kind of demand. Can you tell us anything about that?

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Sure, I'm going to let Jessica answer that, but I'm first going to give you my 50,000 foot view on e-commerce as it relates to cat litter. If you think about e-commerce, it makes the most sense for things where freight is a very small percentage of the delivered cost of goods. There's a reason why big box stores and grocery stores have been able to be very competitive on bulky, low priced items, because they can buy in full truck loads and then their distribution model allows the consumer to benefit from that. When you decide to buy one bag of cat litter and have it stuck in a box and you know overnight it to you, the cost of that is greater per unit than putting it in a truckload, sending it to a distribution center and putting it on the store shelf. So ultimately somebody has to bear that cost in the equation. It either has to be the manufacturer, the “e-tailer,” the Amazon or Chewy or the consumer. The consumer has to say, ‘I’m willing to pay an extra 30%, 40% for my litter, because I don't want to be carrying it home.’ So just recognize that while e-commerce is having a major impact and its currently having a major impact in cat litter as well, it's because someone in that equation is making the decision to participate to that extent. So I'm just going to leave it there. It just doesn't – it will never be as competitive from a cost per unit standpoint as the full truckload of brick and mortar model. Now having said that, especially during COVID it's been going crazy and I'll turn it over to Jessica.

John Bair

Analyst

Yeah, okay.

Jessica Moskowitz

Analyst

Yeah, just to echo Dan’s comment, we have continued to see an increase in e-commerce, you know again driven partially by COVID and partially by kind of a long term consumer trend erring toward buying online.

John Bair

Analyst

I would think certainly within urban areas you would be seeing and I don't know if you're able to determine that or not, but within urban areas I would imagine home delivery through one of those e-tailers would make a lot more sense than outside, just you know, so anyway. Okay, very good, thanks. I'll get back in the queue.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is a follow-up question from Robert Smith of the Center for Performance. Your line is now open.

Robert Smith

Analyst

Yeah, so maybe you could say something about the opportunities for animal health here in this country.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Right, Flemming I'll let you field that.

Flemming Mahs

Analyst

Yeah, I mean, it's an untapped market for Amlan and Oil-Dri and the product fits well. We know there's a lot of emphasis in the market for antibiotic alternative, antibiotics reproduction, no antibiotics ever. It’s something I think Tyson is even taunting saying they are – 60% of their production is no antibiotics ever, and so our product positioning is well fit. We are just leading the feet on the ground to really get our positioning in place with you know the U.S. 80% of wholesale production is probably 10 accounts or less. So we are just getting the people in place to move forward and it's a great opportunity.

Robert Smith

Analyst

So, is there any particular regulatory matter that has to be overcome?

Flemming Mahs

Analyst

No.

Robert Smith

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Joseph Gabelli of GAMCO Investors. Your line is now open.

Joseph Gabelli

Analyst

Hi guys, thanks for taking the question. Could you just discuss what drove you to buy back some stock in July and maybe update us on your thinking and strategy around share repurchases going forward?

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Sure. Susan?

Susan Kreh

Analyst

Sure. Our thinking around the share repurchases in July were just our cash position and honestly, you know we're not making anything on our cash. It’s basically sitting in the bank. So we did an evaluation around what good buyback share price points were and because the stock price was under what the evaluation said, we decided to go ahead and buy some back.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

[Cross Talk] A big part of that calculation is avoiding the dividend or retiring that, not paying the dividend on those shares. So when you're paying almost a 3% dividend and earning nothing on your money, you can definitely benefit from share buyback and it benefits the shareholders. What's your perspective on the share repurchase? Joe [ph] that was a question for you.

Joseph Gabelli

Analyst

Well, obviously it's another tool for capital allocation depending on where you can get returns and what do you think the stock is worth relative to where it's trading?

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Yeah, we tried to rather do a special dividend when we got that big influx of the one-time licensing. We said lets – this is the way of sort of returning some value to the shareholders and through our share repurchase. So that was part of the overall equation.

Joseph Gabelli

Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our final question comes from Ethan Starr, a Private Investor. Your line is now open.

Ethan Starr

Analyst

Yes, do you know what's the potential for growth in both of them branded and private label cat litter markets? You know, you’re still adding more accounts there and how is that one going? Are more SKUs in various accounts and new accounts?

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Yeah Jessica – I mean, you can certainly talk about it, because it's out there and it's public. The Blue Jug at Wal-Mart which we're seeing some good results from and any private label lightweights that we’ve – you know if that business is continuing to grow.

Jessica Moskowitz

Analyst

Yeah, so Ethan I would just say we do continue to see both growth organically of our existing SKUs as well as kind of creation and expansion of new SKUs and new customer acquisitions. So we – you know as we have successes with customers and key customers, you know obviously those become great data points to go out and expand the business and private label lightweight has been very successful, both on the private label side, as well as the branded side and really leveraging the trends that we're seeing in lightweight. So excited to continue to see growth and again go through organic growth, as well as customer acquisitions.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

Anything – I'll add just to expand the question and I’ll have to wrap up into all of North America. We're seeing even more rapid growth on private label lightweight north of the border in Canada for two major reasons. Number one, private label’s always been about 20% of the category in the United States, with 80% being branded sales. Canada being more like Europe, it's more like 40% private label and 60% brand, so you've got a more developed market. You have a consumer more attuned to private label and buying their cat litter that way, so that's been good for us. And then about a year ago, and I've mentioned this before, you know our largest competitor, Nestlé Purina, went all lightweight in Canada and so they sell only lightweight offerings. They have 17 lightweight SKUs in Loblaws and Walmart Canada and no heavyweight SKUs, zero. And so they've clearly educated the consumer on the benefits of lightweight and they can buy a brand or they can get a national brand equivalent made by us in the private label, in the own brand. So we're seeing great results north of the border and we obviously hope that trend will make its way down of the United States and that'll be all good for Oil-Dri.

Dan Jaffee

Analyst

So, thank you all for your focus and attention and your loyalty. We had a great fiscal ‘20. I want to thank our frontline workers for making it possible. You know they came in everyday and Molly and Aaron Christiansen and their team kept them safe and healthy, exercising really strict social distancing, wearing masks, three times daily cleaning, everything we could do to keep COVID out of our facilities. As far as we know, no COVID emanated from our facilities. We did have a few teammates and not many, who did contract COVID, but all the tracing pointed to spots outside Oil-Dri and because of their work, we were able to deliver a record year and we look forward to you know continued momentum into fiscal ’21. So we'll be back to you in 90-days or so. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Well, ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.