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Okay, yes, excellent. We saw a broad based improvement across nearly all markets in that timeframe, specific changes and unique niches here and there. So I think some people I’d say in the MRG space, when automotive OEM first started slowing down, were eager to build inventory to be ready for the rebound. I think some of those people are now sort of slowed down on let's say, their rebuild for that. But in many other areas, we're maxed out and people are quite eager for product. It's strong; I say it’s strong, really across all three geographies, in terms of that sense. Now, if we're going to go to conductive right now, our conductors business, I tell you is about $15 million, $20 million of EBITDA per year, a small portion of that being lithium-ion batteries today. But if we were going to look out, let's say five years, you can see that roughly double for us. And of course, at that point, lithium-ion batteries would be a much larger part of it. Today in that space, with why we play is with Acetylene Black. There's other materials, there's conductive materials that go into lithium-ion batteries into the electrodes, specifically things like carbon nanotubes, when you think about it, those materials are really one dimensional materials. And like wrappings to well, we put in a three dimensional additive, and that's got a certain synergistic effect with these other materials. And that's the space where we play now. And, one is obviously very much tied to working with other people who were doing some of those other materials and developing the battery technology itself.