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OFG Bancorp (OFG)

Q2 2019 Earnings Call· Mon, Jul 22, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for joining OFG Bancorp's conference call. My name is Maria and I'll be your conference operator today. Our speakers are José Rafael Fernández, President, Chief Executive Officer and Vice Chairman; and Maritza Arizmendi, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. A presentation accompanies today's remarks. It can be found on the Investor Relations website on the home page in the What's New box, or on the Webcast, Presentations & Other Files page. This call may feature certain forward-looking statements about management's goals, plans and expectations. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties outlined in the Risk Factors section of OFG's SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially from those currently anticipated. We disclaim any obligation to update information disclosed in this call, as a result of developments that occur afterwards. We also direct you to the explanation of non-GAAP measurements that are included in our presentation and news release. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Fernández. José Rafael Fernández: Good morning. Thank you for joining us. Please turn to slide 3. We're extremely pleased with our second quarter results. OFG has continued to deliver on all fronts. Our levels of small business, auto and consumer loan production; core deposit growth, credit quality and capital; and the number of net new customer growth, all confirm the effectiveness of our differentiation strategy. As a result, we generated a 23% increase in earnings per share or more than a 3% increase in net revenue. And our return on assets, net interest margin and efficiency ratios are continuing at levels similar to the top-performing peer mainland banks. Looking ahead, Oriental will further consolidate its position…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Brett Rabatin of Piper Jaffray.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Hey, good morning everyone. José Rafael Fernández: Good morning, Brett.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Wanted to first ask - José Rafael wanted -- I saw that the CIO, Portela resigns and the Governor's not going to run for reelection. Can we talk about this, the macro and how this is impacting Puerto Rico? And what's going on with the recovery funds? And maybe just some thoughts on the broader implications of the current events? José Rafael Fernández: Sure. So it's been and – and we’re going to have since the latest events have been developing. It's a fluid process as we speak. You heard last night, the Governor is not running for reelection and resigning to his own party presidency. So right now it's too early to tell what the economic impact is. We are not seeing any impact so far. So from that perspective that's what we're seeing. Longer term, if this situation is not addressed proactively by the leadership of the legislature in Puerto Rico it could have economic consequences on the longer term. I am confident that levelheaded minds will prevail and confident that the legislature will assume their role and make the right decisions to stabilize the situation here in Puerto Rico in terms of political situation and let's get on with business. That's kind of how I see it. Certainly, it provides opportunities going forward to continue to achieve higher levels of governance, higher levels of transparency and focus on what's really important for the people of Puerto Rico which is economic growth. And I view this -- albeit uncertain on the short term. I see this as an opportunity also to execute on the right path for the future of Puerto Rico. And again focusing on having true governance and having total transparency and focusing on economic development which is at the end what's going to bring credibility from Washington and from investors alike.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. That's a good summary and talking about economic activity. And you talk about market conditions continuing to improve and I see that June auto sales were actually up year-over-year while a lot of the other data is kind of mixed. Can you maybe elaborate a little further on market conditions? Is that purely on the credit side? Or are there other things that you would point to that are notable in terms of improvement? José Rafael Fernández: So you mentioned auto. That's one aspect. Consumer strength continues to build. Certainly our commercial client finances are stronger and that is clearly being seen in the last year or so. They're growing and improving significantly. We're seeing more liquidity on the consumer side. And therefore spending is steady and slightly growing. So from our perspective and what we're seeing from our client base and what we see here on the ground is that the economy continues to benefit from the back-winds of insurance funds, federal funds as well as the rebuilding efforts that are being put in place.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. And maybe if I can just sneak one last one in. Just thinking about growth is it fair to assume that the recent improvement continues? Or can you give us any color on what you see from the pipeline and just how you expect the back half of the year to unfold from a growth perspective? José Rafael Fernández: So Brett may I clarify your question? Are you referring to growth -- oriental growth or economic growth?

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Oriental growth, the loan portfolio. José Rafael Fernández: Got it. Yes, yes, yes. We're encouraged with what we're seeing honestly. We see good pipelines on the commercial side. We continue to take advantage of the disruption going on in the auto portfolio or the auto market with the consolidation that occurred last year and we're seeing good opportunities there. We're very focused on the retail side and particularly on the small commercial businesses. What we're seeing is a good pipeline and we're seeing good opportunities with good credits. So we're encouraged by that.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. Great. Appreciate all the color. José Rafael Fernández: Thank you, Brett.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Alex Twerdahl of Sandler O'Neill.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Good morning. José Rafael Fernández: Hi, Alex.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Just first wanted to drill into the provision a little bit. If you exclude that $8.8 million that was specific to a loan sale, provisioning came down quite a bit down to $8.9 million which is kind of much lower than the sort of the run rate you guys have been running at yet, charge-offs are pretty much in line, loan growth is pretty solid during the quarter and while NPLs declined, it wasn't that huge of a decline. So, I mean, can you talk a little bit about sort of the -- as it relates to some of the improved economic conditions you've cited in the past specific measures et cetera, is this new level of provisioning or is this a new level of provisioning a kind of $8.9 million per quarter? Or is there something else kind of that we're not seeing that might be working underneath the surface that we should be considering? José Rafael Fernández: Yes. So Alex, from our perspective, a little bit of adding to what I already have mentioned regarding the economic conditions and the strength of the commercial clients' finances. That is the reflection that you're seeing on the reduced provisioning. It is a reflection of a stronger economy and stronger balance sheets and certainly stronger consumers. As we go forward, we feel that as the economy continues to grow and we continue to -- we will continue to see improving trends and that's what we will be looking at in terms of provisioning. We will look at the environment. We will look at the current credit performance and we'll provision accordingly. But we don't give a guidance in terms of provisioning going forward.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. So I mean kind of probably putting some words into your mouth, if everything kind of continues along the path as it has been, provisioning levels should be more similar to what we saw in the second quarter than the first quarter prior? José Rafael Fernández: So -- well yes, let me just repeat a little bit. We're very encouraged with what's going on. We're really excited about the growth prospects that we're seeing and that is directly related to how the economy is behaving as opposed to the last 10 years and how the strengths of the commercial clients continue to build. And as to the provision going forward, we don't give a guidance, but it will reflect whatever the environment and our portfolio -- credit portfolio performs. We don't want to give a guidance on the provision.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. Understood. And then, just talking a little bit about -- you said improved market conditions prompting the loan sale. What metrics specifically do you look at for that? Is that just purely appetite for distressed loan purchases on the island? José Rafael Fernández: So, remember we sold residential mortgage loans. These are distressed that we acquired from BBVA. The way we monitor it is it has a couple of variables, but let's just share with you a couple of them -- two of them which is, one of them is demand. There is a higher demand for this type of assets in the recent months. And certainly residential home prices have stabilized and started to show some upticks. So that's what kind of give us -- gave us a good moment to sell those or to put them for sale and we should be closing in the third quarter.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. So with the loan sale or any sort of reduction of NPLs, was that required by regulators or internally before you were able to announce the Scotiabank deal? José Rafael Fernández: No, no, no. This is something of our business plan and this is something that we are on the lookout every day. If you think of it, we don't want to have nonperforming assets in our balance sheet. So, if there is an opportunity that is opportunistic and we feel it makes sense for us, we'll do it. If there is no opportunity for us and it makes more sense for us to work those loans out, we will work them out. It's an NPV analysis that we do. So it has nothing to do with anything related to the previously announced acquisition.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Great. And then just final question for me. It looks like deposit costs kind of in several of the categories increased in the second quarter higher than we had seen some of the increases at least in the first quarter and maybe kind of average over the last couple of quarters. Is that reflective of the whole market moving higher in Puerto Rico for deposit costs? Or is it more specific to OFG related to some deposit promotions that potentially were offered in the second quarter? José Rafael Fernández: A couple -- I think all of the above. I think on the term CD kind of a market the -- there's a little bit more competition. Some of our competitors have in the past been somewhat more aggressive on the one, two-year, three-year term. And we also saw a great opportunity for us to reduce our institutional funding. So, when you see us growing CDs, it is because the cost of those CDs is lower than the brokered CDs or the other type of institutional funding that we might use. So that's kind of the spirit behind it Alex. It's a little bit of the market kind of addressing the market price, but also it makes sense to us to become -- to increase our core retail funding base through the CD market.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. José Rafael Fernández: You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Glen Manna of Keefe Bruyette & Woods.

Glen Manna

Analyst

Hi, good morning. José Rafael Fernández: Good morning Glen.

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Good morning.

Glen Manna

Analyst

I just wanted to get a little bit better handle on the NIM. Obviously, with the average balance sheet and the timing of the securities sales and kind of pay-downs of the brokered deposits, when I pencil it out, I would get an end-of-quarter NIM that was probably heading into the third quarter about 10 basis points higher than the average NIM for the second quarter. I guess Maritza, am I thinking about that right? José Rafael Fernández: We don't try to forecast here our guidance. In terms of NIM we -- again, we look at the NIM relatively stable as we're seeing it in this quarter but it's not too far from what you're saying Glen. Let's just put it that way.

Glen Manna

Analyst

Okay. And when you think about the sales and kind of a buildup in excess cash that happened in the quarter, looks like you're going to be holding some cash. Is that kind of getting ready ahead of the acquisition? Or could we see the possibility that you could sell down or pay down some more brokered deposits or repos?

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Glen, the -- we will be using that excess cash to continue reducing our dependency on -- or our reliance on wholesale funding brokered, CDs, repurchase agreement, and just use our core deposit our main source of fund.

Glen Manna

Analyst

Okay. And on the tax rate, it looks like a couple of percentage points lower than we were maybe expecting over here. What can we expect in the second half of the year?

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Well, at the end, the effective tax rate came in at 32-point something and we will see that as the effective tax rate for the next two quarters.

Glen Manna

Analyst

Okay super. Thanks for taking my questions. José Rafael Fernández: You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Joe Gladue of Alden Securities.

Joe Gladue

Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Good morning.

Joe Gladue

Analyst

I'll just ask, at the end of the first quarter, you had mentioned that there were some…

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Hello? José Rafael Fernández: Hello, Joe?

Joe Gladue

Analyst

Yeah. José Rafael Fernández: Joe?

Joe Gladue

Analyst

Yeah. Can you hear me? José Rafael Fernández: No.

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

No. José Rafael Fernández: We could not hear your question.

Joe Gladue

Analyst

Okay. Yeah. I guess at the end of first quarter you mentioned that there were opportunities for growth in Puerto Rico. And clearly, we've seen that come to fruition. But you also talked about there being some potential opportunities on the mainland. Just wondering if any of those things are on hold or if you're still looking at some potential there? José Rafael Fernández: We're -- on the U.S. what we're seeing is continuing to deliver on our U.S. loan strategies. As we mentioned earlier, I think in the previous investor call we are at this point focused on getting regulatory approval for the Scotiabank acquisition and regulatory approvals for the USVI side of it too, and then moving to the conversion and merger process. At this point in time the U.S. strategy remains the same, which is originating or lending into the small business and doing few participations on a quarterly basis.

Joe Gladue

Analyst

All right. Thank you. José Rafael Fernández: Yeah. You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brett Rabatin of Piper Jaffray.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Hey, just two follow-up items. One wanted to follow-up on that on the OFG USA strategy. And the loans that you booked this quarter $36 million, can you give us some color on that what industries, how many loans? Any color on the OFG USA strategy is part one. José Rafael Fernández: Yeah. I mean, these are small commercial business loans. These are some -- mostly SBA loans that we're lending also over there in the States and they are from a variety of industries. And they're smaller in the range of $2 million to $3 million or less. So that's kind of the description of the loans that we've done over in the U.S. in this quarter.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. And then secondly on expenses, can you give us some color on the back half of the year expenses that will continue related to the deal? I know you had $1 million related in 2Q. What does that look like for the back half? And then just thinking about expenses, I mean, you've held them flattish even down a little bit year-over-year. How are you being able to do that? And where are you investing versus being able to pull back in terms of expenses?

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Well, in general, Brett we have only $1 million this quarter related to the acquisition. If we exclude that the performance in the expenses was better than expected in the sense that it keep going down. We have been able to deploy new technology while keeping our cost well controlled. And as we see going forward we will keep -- we will see the expenses being level with this quarter. And we cannot anticipate what will be the additional costs regarding the acquisition quarter-by-quarter, but we do know that there will come some expenses. So as we go by, we will see that expenses coming into the efficiency ratio. However, we don't see big ticket item at least in the ongoing basis. José Rafael Fernández: Also recall that most of the transactions expenses will also become part of a -- the modeling that we did with the Scotiabank acquisition and the related merger one-time expenses.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. And then just following up on that from Scotia just since that deal's been announced what's been your experience in terms of thinking about the expenses, the franchise you're acquiring, the opportunities to grow their book? José Rafael Fernández: So everything that we have modeled so far it’s been -- as we speak been validated. And we're really excited about bringing in the team from Scotia later in the year. But Brett we're right now focusing on what's really important, which is the regulatory approval process and that's what our focus is. Certainly we've had extensive discussions with the Scotia team already and we're collaborating as we speak as much as we can before regulatory approval.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay, great. Appreciate the additional color. José Rafael Fernández: Yeah.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Alex Twerdahl of Sandler O'Neill.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Hey just wanted to see if you guys wanted to get on the record with any preliminary expectations for CECL?

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Well, at this point, Alex we are -- they're advancing the process and what we've seen is that probably for next quarter, we will be able to provide you some specific or more specific regarding the possible impact of CECL next year.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Fantastic. We will be looking forward to hearing that. Thank you for taking my follow-up.

Maritza Arizmendi

Analyst

Great.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There appears to be no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Fernández for any additional or closing remarks. José Rafael Fernández: Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone for listening in today. We'll be at the KBW conference on July 30th in New York. We'll be coming back to you on a conference call for earnings late in October when we report our third quarter results. Until then thank you again and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.