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Okta, Inc. (OKTA)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Sep 1, 2021

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Dave Gennarelli

Management

Hi, everybody. Welcome to Okta's second quarter of fiscal year 2022 earnings webcast. I'm Dave Gennarelli, Vice President of Investor Relations at Okta. With me in today's meeting, we have Todd McKinnon, our Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder; Brett Tighe, our Interim Chief Financial Officer; and Frederic Kerrest, our Executive Vice Chairman, Chief Operating Officer, and Co-Founder. Today's meeting will include forward-looking statements pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including, but not limited to, statements regarding our financial outlook and market positioning. Forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements represent our management's beliefs and assumptions only as of the date made. Information on factors that could affect the Company's financial results is included in our filings with the SEC from time to time, including the section titled Risk Factors in our previously filed Form-10-Q. In addition, during today's meeting, we'll discuss non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures and a discussion of the limitations of using non-GAAP measures versus their closest GAAP equivalents is available in our earnings release. You can also find more detailed information in our supplemental financial materials, which include trended financial statements and key metrics posted on our Investor Relations website. In today's meeting, we will quote a number of numeric or growth changes as we discuss our financial performance, and unless otherwise noted, each such reference represents a year-on-year comparison. Now, I'd like to turn the meeting over to Todd McKinnon. Todd?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Thanks, Dave, and thank you, everyone for joining us this afternoon. Our strong second quarter results were driven by continued performance across Okta's standalone business, as well as from Auth0. As a quick reminder, the transaction closed on May 3, so it's still very early days as a combined Company. Nevertheless, with each passing day, our enthusiasm grows for the combined Company and for how we are aggressively pursuing the $80 billion identity market opportunity. As the world continues to work through the ongoing pandemic, organizations have had to maintain fluid plans for returning to offices. Regardless of the timeline, it's clear that most organizations are adopting plans that include more remote access. Organizations also realized that their interactions with customers will continue to shift more online and need to accelerate their digital transformation business plans. These factors, combined with the ever-evolving security threat landscape, mean that the demand for Okta's modern identity solutions has never been greater. I'll start with a quick recap of our Q2 financial results and then get into some of the other notable highlights from the quarter. I know this audience is looking for more information regarding Auth0's contribution to our results. So this quarter, we'll be sharing a number of Okta standalone and Auth0 metrics on a one-time basis. With these, you'll be able to see that both businesses delivered great Q2 results and better understand the combined Company going forward. To highlight just a few of our second quarter financial metrics, revenue growth for both standalone Okta and Auth0 was strong, which produced combined Company revenue growth of 57% and subscription revenue growth of 59%. RPO surpassed the $2 billion milestone. For reference, it took Okta 10 years to reach the $1 billion RPO milestone and less than 2 years to hit the…

Brett Tighe

Management

Thanks, Todd, and thank you to everyone for joining us. As Todd noted, we'll be sharing a number of Okta standalone and Auth0 metrics on a one-time basis. For the rest of this fiscal year, we'll only be sharing Auth0's GAAP revenue and net loss breakout. Okta and Auth0 are integrating quickly, which will make it increasingly difficult to determine the standalone metrics in future quarters. With that, I'll now discuss in more detail the results for the second quarter, as well as provide our business outlook. Total revenue for the second quarter increased 57%, driven by a 59% increase in subscription revenue. Subscription revenue represented 96% of our total revenue. Okta standalone revenue was $278 million, an increase of 39%. Auth0 revenue, net of recognized purchase accounting adjustments, was $38 million. As an additional point of reference, the total deferred revenue haircut for Auth0 was $13 million, with the largest impact to revenue in Q2. RPO, or backlog, which for us is contracted subscription revenue, both billed and unbilled, that has not yet been recognized, grew 57% to $2.24 billion. On Okta standalone basis, RPO grew 42%. The growth rate decrease from last quarter is primarily attributable to the stabilizing of contract duration, which now averages just under 3 years in length. Current RPO, which represents subscription revenue we expect to recognize over the next 12 months, also experienced strong growth of 60%. On an Okta standalone basis, current RPO grew 43%. Both total and current calculated billings grew 83%. Excluding the billings process changes that were implemented last quarter, calculated billings would have grown 74%. Okta standalone calculated billings, excluding the benefit from the billings process changes, experienced strong growth of 47%. Calculated billings growth in the second quarter was driven by strength across both new and existing…

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Thanks, Brett. To indicate that you have a question, please click on the raise hand icon. I see that many of you have already, and I'm going to take them in the order that they were raised. So we'll go to the first question from Alex Henderson at Needham.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much. There's been a very significant increase in the number of attacks and hacks, broadly speaking, and there's been presidential edicts that have specifically called out identity as critical drivers of properly designed security. Can you talk a little bit about to what extent those events and that backdrop has altered the dynamics and the demand for the Company? Have we seen an acceleration in conditions as a result? Thanks.

Todd McKinnon

Management

I think it's a really significant factor. A couple of months ago, I was talking to the CIO of a large three-letter federal agency, and they've been an Okta customer for a couple of years now in parts of the agency. But this was the CIO of the whole thing. The CIO and the Deputy CIOs and the Deputy CSOs, and as in the meeting, and it was a pretty very compelling meeting from my perspective because they were basically giving me the Okta pitch and saying how identity was so critical with all these supply chain based attacks and ransomware attacks, and everyone being remote and having to adapt to this hybrid work environment. Identity was really the center and it was the keystone of having a robust security strategy, and I'm thinking to myself, that's usually the pitch I give in this meeting, and what they wanted from me was, they wanted my support. "Hey, we're going to really go wall-to-wall with Okta, make a huge investment. It's going to be the cornerstone of our strategy. Will you support us?" Basically give them confidence, and I think that captures a shift in the market, where a big part of our success is predicated on identity being this primary component in this pillar of Company's technology strategies. Not something that you get as a feature with other platforms or maybe with your applications, but it's actually a primary cloud in your environment. This is a great testament of how that's starting to shift, and it's a great thing for Okta. Because when you talk about an independent and neutral identity cloud and now especially when combined with Auth0, we are in the catbird seat to own that, and that's why it's so compelling for our future.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Great. Thanks for the great quarter.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Thank you.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Great. Next question is from Gray Powell with BTIG.

Gray Powell

Analyst

Hey, great. Thanks. Can you hear me okay?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yeah, loud and clear, Gray.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

I think he just froze up there. Why don't we come back to Gray. We'll go to Patrick Colville from Deutsche Bank.

Patrick Colville

Analyst

Hey. Thank you so much for taking my question and congrats on the progress you've made so far with Auth0. Your disclosure is really fantastic, kind of providing the standalone revenue and your Auth0 revenue is really helpful. I appreciate you guys doing that. As we think forward for guidance, you kindly told us that $38 million of inorganic Auth0 revenue in fiscal second quarter. How do we expect that inorganic Auth0 revenue to trend throughout the rest of the fiscal year? The reason I ask that is because if we assume, even if it's stable at 38 million, it suggests the core business is going to see quite a material deceleration in the third and fourth quarter. So just help me understand those two segments of the business.

Todd McKinnon

Management

First of all, we heard the feedback loud and clear on the disclosures. So hopefully, those are helpful as you think through the businesses going forward. On the guidance, we had a lot of debate about breaking out the guidance between different companies, and the big reason not to is we want to keep flexibility on how we package and sell and position the products and we might do some creative things that would change the actual how you ascribe revenue to each side. So we want to keep our options open there. We will, as we mentioned, be breaking out the Auth0 topline for the next few quarters at least, as we go through the quarters, to give you more insight into what's going on there. I'll talk about it at a high level and then pass it off to Brett for some more comments. But it's really, really important for us to, as we go through this, and this is a long-term strategic move for us, Auth0. It's about building this primary cloud. It's about offering all of these identity use cases to customers and making identity a key part of their technology landscape, and you do that by supporting all of these multiple use cases. Customer Identity, Workforce Identity, eventually, Privileged Access Management, Identity Governance, and on and on. But a real core of this is owning the SIEM market, and when you think about us plus Auth0, it is going very well, and the first order of business is these two companies, two products that had a lot of momentum. So the first order of business is keep that momentum going. Hopefully, you can see in the numbers that that's definitely true. So that's the first order of business, and then it's also very important as we keep executing through the rest of this year that we get the integration going. We mentioned the sales integration, getting that synergy going, and making sure we take this from initial success, keep the momentum going to this long-term future, where we are really this one-stop shop for all these identity choices and compelling leader in the market for customers.

Brett Tighe

Management

I think a few more thoughts there. The first thing that comes to mind really, is just talking about the Q2 metrics. Really, the visibility, I just want to reiterate a few points that Todd said around the reason why we gave such a fulsome look on the visibility of the Okta standalone versus Auth0 across numerous metrics, really for two reasons. One, like Todd said, we really want to give you the DNA of how the organization is built up today as of the end of Q2, and then secondarily, give you insight into how are each business performing, and it goes without saying, both of them are performing very well. You can tell, really, any number of metrics. It can be CRPO growing 43% for Okta standalone, you double-click down into that in terms of ACV, whether Workforce is growing 37% for Okta standalone, 49% for SIEM standalone. Obviously, Auth0 doing great for our first quarter together, 63% ACV growth. So really strong performance across the board, and just like Todd was saying, we're going to run this Company as one entity to go get a huge $80 billion TAM, and really, that's how we're going to talk about in the future with the exception of the few comments that Todd said, which is we'll give Auth0 revenue and net loss, GAAP net loss to be clear, in Q3 and Q4 of this year to give a little bit more visibility. But this is a one-time look, and hopefully gives everyone a very good sense of how well both organizations have been running and an idea of the DNA between the two organizations of how it actually breaks down. But a little bit more on the guidance itself, maybe a couple of points to help you with your modeling. As you can tell by the strong quarter that Auth0 just posted in terms of 63% ACV growth, like I said a second ago, we have talked about in the past a $200 million ARR goal by the end of FY '22, and they are definitely on track for that. So performing very well, we're very excited about the opportunity operating together, and then if you were to think, okay, of the $25 million raise, the $1.25 billion at the top end, growing 50%, how much of that is Okta? How much of that is Auth0? I think if you look at the great performance by both businesses in Q2, it really says, hopefully, to the world that both would be raising because both are performing very well. So hopefully, that gives you a little bit more color on the guidance going forward.

Patrick Colville

Analyst

Yes. Thank you so much. I mean, that's really helpful, and I appreciate you guys giving us added disclosure.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Great. Okay. We are going to try Gray Powell again from BTIG. Gray?

Gray Powell

Analyst

All right. Thanks. Can you hear me this time?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yes. It's all loud and clear, Gray.

Gray Powell

Analyst

All right. Cool. I'll be quick. So can you talk about the success you're having so far upselling Okta Workforce into the Auth0 installed base? Then, I know you just reiterated the expectations for Auth0 to contribute $200 million in ARR this year. Theoretically, if every Auth0 customers signed up for Workforce immediately, how big could it be?

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

Thanks, Gray. Nice to hear from you. It's only 4 months in, so we're very excited about it, but we're just getting going really. We have now at least figured out what some of the enterprise basis look like, so we talked about over 13,000 total customers now. Okta standalone added 750 customers, which is a record. We're adding in Auth0, 1,650. Then we had about 300 common customers, to give you an idea. So that's just 2% of the overall customer base, and should give everyone an idea of how big the market is and how little overlap there really was out there. So there is a lot of opportunity for not only of Auth0's sales team to take advantage of some of the products that we have on the SIEM side. Good examples are Workflows, Okta Access Gateway, Advanced Server Access. These are products that play very well on SIEM attaches that Auth0 didn't have. But also, as you mentioned, Auth0 has largely been selling just SIEM, and so we are just getting going with that motion. Lot of great communication among our sales teams. There are some very good examples already of both sides, actually. There was Warby Parker, which we talked about, briefly in the prepared remarks and existing Okta Workforce customer, new Auth0 customer, right? They've been working on that for a little while. But it gave them a lot of confidence to accelerate that deal, saying, "Okay, great. We're comfortable with Okta. We've been using them for a while. Now it's going to be part of the same group, so that's great." Now Warby Parker is, by the way, using Auth0 for all customer purchases going forward, which is a big deal on their website, and then on the flip side, Salesforce has been an Auth0 customer for some time. Workforce upsell for us, obviously, G2K using a lot of our products, including Workflows, helping automate a lot of business processes there. Just a couple of examples, a lot more of that to come. Obviously, huge opportunity. But again, we're very happy with the 13,000 total customer count. As an entrepreneur, if you give me those numbers when we started, I would have take them in a heartbeat. But it should be 20,000, 50,000, 100,000 customers we should be working throughout the world, with all the world's organization. So a lot of room to run, but I think it's a good start.

Gray Powell

Analyst

Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Gray, one thing. This just happened this past week that I'm really psyched about is that, Freddie talked about the kind of, not call it low-hanging fruit, but somewhat obvious cross-sell. So Workforce to Auth0 customers, so Auth0 SIEM to Okta Workforce customers, and that's in the different product modules, Workflows, and the Access Gateway, Advanced Server Access, very near-term opportunities there. What I saw this past week was the first mockups and the first concepts of what deep integrated products could look like in the future. It was very cool. The teams have just started to work together. So in terms of like what could be possible in the years ahead, I saw the coolest demo where, if you build an app using Auth0 and then how that could hook in to the Okta IGA on the other side. So if your app is built with Auth0, then so a customer deploys that app, and now that has a much tighter integration to the Okta Identity Governance that can control exactly what's done in that app, who has access to what, at a very fine grain level. That is the compelling integration, that mix beyond just this go-to-market synergies and the ability for one vendor to come with the market. But really, one plus one equals three from the technology and the product perspective, and there's a bunch more ideas we have, and as the teams come together, it's going to be amazing to see the progress over time.

Gray Powell

Analyst

That's really interesting. Okay. I look forward to hearing more about that.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yeah. We have our showcase event coming up in October, where we're going to be talking a little bit more about this. So make sure you tuned into do that. It'll be all virtual, and we'll talk about the integration and the opportunities ahead in a little bit more detail.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Okay. Let's go to Jonathan Ho with William Blair.

Jonathan Ho

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Just wanted to get a sense of how you are educating the channel on when to either promote Okta's SIEM products or Auth0's? Or perhaps, maybe you've been selling both products to a customer, and can give us a sense of what those guidelines, the challenge you'd be using to make that decision on which product, to begin with, would look like? Thank you.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yeah, this is a key point of the work we've done, and we had a thesis about this, and it's really been validated over the first several months working together, and the idea is that this $30 billion market for SIEM is a massive market, and you can see the combined companies now, it's about a third of the ACV. So it's not only just a big material part of the Company now, but it's a massive upside in the future. But that's from a kind of a quantitative perspective. From a qualitative perspective, we talked about how the SIEM market is so strategic for Okta and that it gives the Identity Cloud another compelling anchor use-case to further propel that to be a really strategic platform in the mind of every CIO and CSO in the world. So there's the qualitative, there's a quantitative in terms of the strategic priority of the combined entity, and then when you think about how we could further accelerate some of this integration, you think about what is actually happening in the first 4 months, and the first thing is we only have 300 overlapping customers. So if these two SIEM platforms, if it was just about two competitors going after the same small pie, you would have had way more overlap in terms of customers or at least the competitive pipeline, and we haven't seen that materialize. You only have 300 companies that are overlapping customers. Then the pipeline reviews, it's very clear which SIEM platform, Okta SIEM or the Auth0 SIEM platform should be targeted for which customer. So this is not confusing in the field. They're figuring it out. The channel is figuring it out organically. So the way it breaks down is that this $30 billion TAM is really…

Jonathan Ho

Analyst

Thank you, Todd. Thank you.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Hey, let's go to Hamza Fodderwala at Morgan Stanley.

Hamza Fodderwala

Analyst

Hey, guys, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Perhaps a question for Todd and/or Freddie. On the Workforce side, I was wondering if you could give us any updates on progress with the IGA and the PAM product, to the extent that you have customers who are using that product on beta. Then also, what are you guys doing from a go-to-market perspective to really build a pipeline for that ahead of general availability next year?

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

Yeah. Happy to talk about that. Thanks, Hamza, for the question. You're referring to the Privileged Access Management, and Identity Governance, and Administration products that we've announced that are going to be coming out next fiscal year. They're making really good progress on both sides. Obviously, these are not brand new areas for us. These are natural adjacencies to what we've done with Access Management for a long time. We have the basis for both of the product suites already. They've been generally available for some time, which also is one of the pieces that give us confidence to talk about general availability coming next year. On the Privileged Access Management side, obviously, it's Advanced Server Access, a product that's been in the market for a couple of years and has done very, very well. Obviously, PAM is going to be a bigger suite of products. They are going to be upsells, they're going to be new SKUs. They're going to be add-ons for customers to buy, just to be clear, but Advanced Server Access is the basis for that product suite, and then, on the IGA side, the basis is Lifecycle Management and Advanced Lifecycle Management, two products that have done very well. Some of the top sellers last year. So much so that we had the confidence to take them from Workforce and bring them over to the SIEM side of the businesses this year, and that's gone very, very well. We announced IGA earlier this year, and that's been selling extremely well, both on the Okta standalone side, as well as the Auth0 side, as I mentioned earlier. So that's going very well. Again, IGA will be broader than that. There will be more products. The product suite will be bigger, so there'll be upsell opportunities and…

Hamza Fodderwala

Analyst

Thank you.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

All right. Let's go to Ittai Kidron at Oppenheimer.

Ittai Kidron

Analyst

Hey, guys. Congrats. Great quarter, and thanks for the extra disclosure, very helpful. Maybe I'm going to dig into that a little bit, Brett, and I just want to make sure I understand the guidance on the next quarter. On the top line, you're showing about a 7 points to 9 points deceleration from a revenue growth standpoint. Maybe you can give us some details on how much of that is Auth0 or Okta related? Is there something funky in the comps year-over-year that would make for that? Also, regarding the gross margins, there was a dip there. I'm guessing it's because of the inclusion of Auth0. How quickly will you be able to bring that back to your historical levels?

Brett Tighe

Management

Sure. Thanks. I'll take that. For the top line, when I talked about it a few minutes ago, they really were just being prudent about the back half in terms of growth because of the sales integration that Todd spoke about earlier. We're obviously bringing that forward because we think it's a good thing for the Company in the long run, and obviously, we've been working very well together. So we're just being prudent about the rate and pace of the integration between the sales teams, and then, what was your second question again?

Ittai Kidron

Analyst

The gross margin.

Brett Tighe

Management

Gross margin, that's right. Yes, it is being depressed a little bit or taken down a little bit due to Auth0. But you can look at our history, and I think one of the reasons we talked about why Auth0, not just this quarter, but last quarter, why Auth0 looks a lot like us a few years ago, when we talked about our prepared remarks looking a lot like us. Because our gross margins, back then, weren't as strong as we built them up over time, and we're going to do the same thing that we've done for years which is balance growth and margin, and It's really just part of the way we operate, and so you'll see that in the future.

Ittai Kidron

Analyst

Very good. Thanks.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Okay. Let's go to Brian Essex at Goldman.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much for taking the question, and thank you from me as well for the additional disclosure. Very helpful. I was maybe if you could talk about customer mix a little bit. If we were to look at versus Auth0 looks quarter-over-quarter. Just maybe parse that out a little bit. What was incremental --

Todd McKinnon

Management

Hey, Brian.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Yeah.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Could you stop your video and ask again? You cut out there a little bit.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Sorry about that.

Todd McKinnon

Management

No worries. I want to make sure I get the whole or I can just answer what I want to answer.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Either way it works, but, yeah, we turned off the video. So, yeah, I mean, essentially where I was going is, it looks like your incremental ads or the customer mix for large customer accelerated quarter-over-quarter. So I want to understand what the business mix of Auth0 was and what it brought to the table versus what Okta organically added for large enterprise and how do you anticipate managing that going forward?

Todd McKinnon

Management

I think that at a high level, when you think about the customer mix and the contribution, I'll just call out that they're the same in a lot of ways, but they're different in a pretty significant way, which is they have this groundswell of free developer accounts and they have the, Auth0 has this group of self-service, basically, essentially month-to-month credit card customers, which is revenue, but it's also more importantly, it's a potential upsell avenue. Auth0 business gets a lot of momentum from developers trying the product, using it maybe in a hobby, a side project, and then bring it to work and they start with a project a work or it's a month-to-month credit card, and then all of a sudden, a few quarters later, it's used in a real customer facing initiative or an internal system that's really important, and then all of a sudden, it's upgraded to a material year long contract. In terms of the way the metrics work, the 1,650 companies that were added to the customer count are all customers are on our contract. The self-service, as you saw on the slides, is a different number, and then, the free developer accounts is the 40,000 number that was mentioned separately as well. In terms of the large customers, we broke out the $100,000 additional customers, we had a very good quarter in terms of large customer additions, both from Okta standalone and on the Auth0 side, and I think over time, what you'll see is the traits in terms of the SIEM opportunity is getting big for Auth0 or the SIEM opportunity is getting big on the Okta platform or the Workforce platform, or similar. There's a lot of starting small and growing. There are some starting big, but the characteristics are generally similar in those businesses.

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

Brian, I'll just add a couple of metrics for you. So obviously, continued success with enterprise customers, now, as a combined Okta and Auth0, we have over 2,600 customers paying us over $100,000 a year. Okta standalone added 160 customers of over a $100,000 a year. Half of those were net new customers, net new logos to us. That's the second highest total for a quarter ever after Q4 of last year, and obviously, Q4s were always big quarters. So you're really starting to see that momentum pick up already in the middle of this year. Auth0 added 375 of those 100,000-plus customers that they had to our overall 2,600 number. But we've been talking a lot, obviously, and for good reason on this call about Auth0 metrics, about Okta metrics, about standalone, and about combined, there's a lot of really good Q2 wins that are Global 2,000, even Fortune 100, Fortune 50, Collins Aerospace is a new SIEM customer for us. Raytheon, which is obviously Fortune 50 sub. There was a Fortune 500 global automotive tech leader. Wyndham had a big upsell in SIEM Workflows. So there's a lot of these large customers that are either net new logos or buying a lot more, and I think that's going on across the base and you're going to see that continue to accelerate in the quarters ahead.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Let's go to Adam Tindle at Raymond James.

Adam Tindle

Analyst

Perfect. I wanted to ask on customer identity, maybe starting with Todd and then a follow-up for Brett. Both businesses are showing healthy growth, but Auth0 is a little bit ahead of Okta in customer identity. So I'm wondering if you could double-click on the logistics of the sales integration. I know Susan calls herself a self-professed growth junkie. So some ideas that she has in place to push growth higher for the combined Company and customer, and Brett, you talked about how the Auth0 economic model is at a similar level to Okta at its level of scale, which I think was a little bit of a positive surprise to a lot of us. How do we think about contribution margins from here and economics from here for Auth0? You show those customer cohorts for Okta, should the Auth0 customer cohorts look similar? Thank you.

Todd McKinnon

Management

The sales integration is, I'll talk about it at a high level, and then beyond that, the reality is that we haven't done all the detailed planning and we haven't carved the territories, and we haven't assigned the accounts. So there's some stuff to be figured out. We're really starting the planning process for next year, in general, and then, plus the sales integration detailed planning is starting now, so we have a lot more work to do at the detail level and then budget communication internally and externally on that. At a high level, it's about growth and it's about taking the entire sales capacity of both organizations, combining them together, and making sure that all of that sales capacity, to some degree, can sell all the products: Okta SIEM, Okta Workforce, Auth0 SIEM. There'll be obviously some specialization and some overlays to make sure the transition to this unified Salesforce works and that you get the right technical specialization. Because both SIEM products require technical specialization and particularly on the Auth0 side, it's a more, more developer-facing product, which means it has different kind of technical requirements. So there will be specialization there, but the main high-level idea is more sales capacity, more ability to take this big lead we have in this market, and this market, like I mentioned before, is a $30 billion market, and we're by far the biggest vendor in here. But our ACV is only like 330 million. So this is a market that's happening before our eyes, and we're going to go capture it, both from the go-to-market, from the branding and positioning of us being the preeminent identity vendor from the execution on how we build the products going forward to make sure we're continuing to advance our respective leads in respective categories and subcategories, and then at the end of the day, we're all one identity cloud, but we're going to make sure that all the products you buy from Okta are more valuable because you have other products from Okta going forward.

Brett Tighe

Management

On the financial question, first and foremost, we're really excited about Auth0. Obviously, as you can tell by our commentary today. But I think maybe the fundamental point is really around how we're going to run them. If we were running them as a separate entity, which as you've heard today, we're running as a product unit, things are becoming integrated from a G&A perspective, from a sales perspective. But if say, let's pretend that that wasn't happening, we would run it just like we ran Okta back then, where we balanced growth and profitability, and you've seen that in the results for years. But since we are bringing everything together, having a product unit, having sales being pulled together, and then G&A being pulled together, now there won't be a relevant compare. But if there was that situation, it would be run just like we did, run ourselves back 3, 4, 5 years ago, where we focused on growing the business while also expanding margins over time.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Okay. Let's go to Matt Hedberg at RBC.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question, guys. I guess for Todd or Freddie, a little bit of a follow-up on Workforce. But can you talk about why Workforce Identity trends have accelerated post-COVID, and I guess, specifically, what are some of the incremental things that are working for you within the G2K's success on the Workforce side?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Absolutely, Matt. Thanks for the question. So obviously, the three megatrends that we based the thesis of the Company on are still very much there. They're growing every day, and they're in the early innings. Everyone's still trying to adopt more cloud and hybrid IT. Everyone has to figure out this digital transformation and the underpinnings of Zero Trust security are now prevalent. I think what you're seeing is organizations are also having to adapt to this pandemic environment. You're not sure if you're going back to work, if you're staying at home, how that's working, number one. Number two, they have to retool their digital strategy. I mean, they have to figure out how to get this to work in this modern environment. Third of all, they have to shift to dynamic work because they have to have an environment where some folks might go to the office, they might be at home, they might be there certain days, and that's going to continue for the foreseeable future, especially in large organizations, and so when we think about the Workforce products, as you said, they are continuing to do very well. We're very happy to break them out obviously. 64% of our ACV growing 37% year-over-year, and that's a big business. So we're very excited about that. I think the existing products are going to continue to do very well for the years ahead for a number of reasons. First of all, if you think about traditional enterprise identity management, as it's been for the last 30 years, it's for employees, contractors, consultants. That budget line item that's been there for CIOs, it's always been historically about internal IT, and so the vendors there, the IBMs, the Oracles, the CAs, the RSAs, they're basically running maintenance streams, and over…

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

Thanks, Freddie.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

All right. Next up, we have Ben Bollin from Cleveland Research.

Ben Bollin

Analyst

Thanks, everyone. I appreciate you taking the question. A few specific items I wanted to address with customer identity. The first, could you talk, Todd, about how much of the pre-existing, DIY market on the customer identity side. How much of that do you think is up for grabs right now? How do you think that develops over time? Second piece is, how would you guys characterize the sales cycle or the duration in sales process for SIEM versus Workforce? Then the last is with the combination of Auth0, how do you think that's influenced pipeline? Was there incremental urgency because now there's this best-of-breed tool? Or was it always a tipping point and you're getting there a little bit faster? Just any thoughts on those would be helpful. Thank you.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Good questions. On the last question about the pipeline influence, I think that mostly on the Auth0 pipeline, I think that just being public, right now, they're public with the merger of Okta. That positively impacts their pipeline. Just like I think we saw when we went public, our pipeline was positively impacted. There's also just the name recognition. Because if you think what happens in a lot of these, and this is to your question about the sales cycle. What happens in a lot of these Auth0-led deals is that it's a bottoms up thing. So the developers start using the product. I mentioned the free accounts and then the self-service accounts. They get built into services the Company is building, and then, all of a sudden, it gets enough usage and enough momentum in the Company that someone has to write a substantial check, and that's executives, CIO, Chief Digital Officer, Chief Product Officer, and I think, at that level, as great as the APIs are and as great as the capabilities and the documentation is, that helps to have a scaled vendor behind it. That helps to look at an organization and say, "Yeah, this is a billion-plus dollar a year Company growing very quickly." These people are the leaders in identity, not just customer identity, but in Workforce Identity. That brings some weight and some gravity. So it's helped positively the Auth0's sell cycle, and I forget what the first question was you asked. What was the first part?

Ben Bollin

Analyst

Okay. So much of that customer identity market.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yeah, up for grabs. Yes, sorry.

Ben Bollin

Analyst

How much of that's up for grabs?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yes, I think I was just looking at this. Every quarter, I'd spent some time really drilling into our competitive dashboards and look at the win rate across the board against competitors and see what's going on, and probably one of the interesting things that stuck out to me is that as an organization, we're doing much better in terms of win rates against do-it-yourself. So we track win rates when we "lose" because they decided to balance themselves, and so that win rate has increased a lot for us, and I think what's happening is that the market is learning that you don't have to build this yourself. I think part of that is just an efficiency story. You'd rather spend your time building your customer-facing solution on differentiated value versus the plumbing of identity. But part of it is a security story, too. Everyone hears about the hacks and the breeches, and they don't want to build a customer-facing app that gets hacked. Especially on the Okta SIEM side, a big part of the driver on the sales cycles is we could build it ourselves, but once you have a complex password reset flow and you have SMS confirmation, and you have SIM jacking and I don't want to allow that password to be set with a stolen cellphone, then you start to think the security risk is a big pressing need to bring in a solution for customer identity versus just the ROI of not having to spend the developer time on it.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Okay. A couple of minutes left. Let's go to Sterling Auty at JPMorgan.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Yeah, thanks. Hi, guys. I agree with you. This whole disclosure is very helpful, but I want to make sure that we connect the dots from the original because I think originally, the target was $200 million of ARR exiting the year, and I just want to make sure we clarify because I've heard people talk about that in different ways, including the way it was characterized by one of the questions earlier, and if that's the case, does that actually mean you need to see acceleration in that Auth0 performance to get to that number by the end of the year?

Brett Tighe

Management

I'll take that, Sterling. So it's $200 million in ARR exiting the fiscal year '22. So you are correct, and to answer your second question, no, we do not need to see acceleration as we exit the year or the back half of the year because Auth0 is well on their way, and that is what's giving us the confidence, one of the reasons of giving us the confidence in a strong revenue rate that we delivered today, the $1.25 billion, up 50% at the top end of the guide.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

All right. Great. One quick one, Todd, for you. You mentioned the sales integration. You're going through the detailed planning now. This is the point where you get that uncertainty if you're a salesperson for Auth0, Okta, wondering what's going to happen to your territory, your job, etc.? What are you doing to make sure that you retain the people that you really want to go forward with the combined organization between now and when you communicate the final details?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Well, one of the things we're not doing is we're not announcing new territories on the earnings call.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Well, that's good. That's a good starting point.

Todd McKinnon

Management

I think that the main thing is as we manage the Company in general, there is a ton of openness and transparency internally. As we walked through this integration process, we've worked really hard to be open about it even when we didn't have all the answers, and I think that helps a lot. But I think the high order thing is that people see the opportunity. Particularly salespeople, their hard work and their talent as a salesperson translate into results, and what they see out there is they see the opportunity. They see a scaled vendor. They see all these people realizing they don't need to build the customer identity themselves, and that's compelling for them. On the Okta side, they see more products to sell. They see not just one SIEM platform, but two SIEM platforms that have distinct use cases and a way to deliver more value to the customer. So it's an important point you bring up and those are some of the things we're thinking about as we go forward.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Makes sense. Thank you.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

Okay. Adam Borg at Stifel.

Adam Borg

Analyst

Hey, guys, and thanks for just taking the question. Just on the international front, and I apologize if I missed this, but international, obviously, saw some really strong growth in part due to Auth0. I guess two parts. One, did you share what the organic international growth was for Okta? Two, just given the larger footprint that Auth0 has internationally, any early learnings as you continue to build out your overall go-to-market internationally. Thanks again.

Brett Tighe

Management

I'll take the first part of the question around organic. No, we did not break it out. But obviously, very strong results in the quarter growing to 21% of total revenue international. But had we broken it out, you would have seen a gentle increase and up into the right for Okta standalone as we continue to have success internationally, and I'll turn it over to Freddie to talk about the rest of the question.

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

Yeah. That's saying something because that's a tough compare, right? To grow international, you have to be growing it faster than the overall business, which is doing very well. Regarding the Auth0 contribution to international, they have a distinct advantage, which is certainly something we've been working on. I know many other organizations have as well. But they grew up natively as a distributed organization. So when you talk about remote work, it's baked in the DNA of their Company. I mean, they have amazing employees in all sorts of countries; some of which we're in, some of which we're not in, and so I think that just having that as an additional driver inside the Company really helps us think about international first. It's one thing for us to talk about it. It's another thing for us to get on airplanes and go support those territories internationally, when we can, obviously, for health reasons. It's another when you just added 800 people, 900 people to the Company, and you added this big momentum shifter, where that's how they think about things. They are distributed by nature. They think about communication internationally from the beginning, and I think that's been really helpful. It's a good reminder, it's a good accelerator. A lot of things we can do there. That being said, standalone Okta is doing really well. I am very pleased with the growth that we've seen, not only in terms of the numbers, obviously, and the customer accounts and the importance of the large customers, we're really making some inroads in some really important industries with some large logos which is going well, but also leadership. We just have better and better people joining the Company every single day, not only the senior leadership level but at management levels. I think that's going to obviously continue. I think it will accelerate when we all have a chance to get back on an airplane and go out there and help them in person as well. But yes, we are very bullish on international. I think it's a huge opportunity. Again, very happy with 21%, which is a 103% year-over-year growth as a combined Company, but I think a lot more that we can do there. Obviously, the opportunity for independent identity as a primary cloud is global. It's every Company, every geo, every industry, every size of Company, public sector, private sector. So it's going to obviously be hard to get it to 50%, given where we started and how fast the business is going. But there is no reason that it shouldn't be a bigger contributor to the business, and it will be going forward.

Adam Borg

Analyst

Great. Thanks again.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

All right. We're into overtime. Let's try to do some rapid fire in the last three questions. We'll go to Josh Tilton at Wolfe. Josh, we lost you. Let's go to Keith Bachman of BMO.

Keith Bachman

Analyst

Yes. Thank you. I'll just ask one question. Could you talk about what you see as the growth of the net retention rate? What I mean by that is you talked a lot about upsell opportunities between Auth0 and core Okta, and then over time, Freddie and you in particular talked about the building pipeline of the two new IGA and PMA. If you could just talk about how investors should think about the net retention rate, and I'm not referring to the next quarter, but over the next year, does that course finally move up because of the addition to cross-sell Auth0 and then some of the new products coming out at the beginning of next year? Thank you.

Todd McKinnon

Management

I think potentially, I think in the near-term, it will be kind of in the range. You've seen it, basically depending on how much upsell we do in that quarter. I think, going forward, one of the interesting potential changes is that on the developer- focused SIEM, the Auth0 SIEM. There is more of this bottoms-up groundswell and then the big upsell comes later just because of the nature of how the product is adopted. So you might see that be a positive, just that element be a positive driver for upsells, and then as you mentioned, plus, we also have this potential of just more cross-sell and upsell because of the different platforms and different products.

Keith Bachman

Analyst

Okay.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

All right, and last but not least, Michael Turits at KeyBanc.

MIchael Turits

Analyst

Hey, guys, Brett and Todd, probably. It's great to see the organic acceleration. Thanks for breaking that out, and I know it's a game we have to play. But if you back into what might have been the expectations for Auth0 this quarter, back that out versus the upside that you got in Auth0, it seems as if the beat on the core business was maybe a little less than historical. Anything that might have been a headwind to that?

Brett Tighe

Management

I would actually say we had a very strong quarter. I think you can look at any number of the metrics from a standalone perspective. CRPO growing 43% at over $1 billion in ACV. That's pretty strong growth when you think about the scale that it's operating at. You can look at the net retention results we just talked about, a 122%, up from 120%. You can look at any of the number of the customer account numbers, greater than 100K accelerating, in terms of the growth on the number of 100K customers on the Okta standalone basis. So from my perspective, it really felt like it was a strong quarter regardless of which metric you look at.

MIchael Turits

Analyst

Thanks, Brett.

Dave Gennarelli

Operator

All right, guys. We're going to have to call it there. Just as a reminder, we're going to be attending two virtual conferences this quarter: the Piper Sandler Conference on September 14 and the Citi Global Conference on September 15. As you heard, we're also going to be having our third annual showcase event that's going to be on October 13. In addition to the content, we'll also be hosting a virtual Q&A session with the investor community as well. So details on that to follow. That's it for today. If you have any follow-up questions, you can email us at investor@okta.com. Thanks for joining.