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Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 7, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Olin Corporation Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Larry Kromidas. Olin's Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Larry P. Kromidas - Olin Corp.

Management

Thank you, William, and good morning to everyone joining our call today. Before we begin this morning, I want to remind everyone that this presentation, along with the associated slides and the question-and-answer session following our prepared remarks, will include statements regarding estimates of future performance. Please note that these are forward-looking statements and that actual results could differ materially from those projected. Some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ from our projections are described, without limitations, in the Risk Factors section of our most recent Form 10-K and in yesterday's earnings press release. A copy of today's transcript and slides will be available on our website in the Investors section under Calendar of Events. The earnings press release and other financial data and information are available under Press Releases. With me this morning are John Fischer, Olin's Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Pat Dawson, Executive Vice President and President, Epoxy and International; Jim Varilek, Executive Vice President and President, Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls and Services; and Todd Slater, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to John Fischer. John?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. During this morning's call, I will begin by discussing our fourth quarter 2017 results. And then, I will detail our 2018 outlook followed by a more detailed discussion of each of our business segments. Let's turn to slide 3. Our fourth quarter 2017 adjusted EBITDA of $277.9 million represents the highest level of quarterly adjusted EBITDA generated by Olin since the acquisition of Dow's Chlorine Products businesses in October of 2015. These results include approximately $12 million of cost associated with the lingering impact of Hurricane Harvey, primarily affecting the Epoxy business. Full year 2017 adjusted EBITDA was $944.1 million, which included approximately $55 million of costs related to Hurricane Harvey, approximately $50 million in unplanned maintenance turnaround costs and the weakest year in the Winchester business since 2012. Our Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls business benefited from improved market dynamics, which resulted in significantly higher caustic soda pricing both in the fourth quarter and for the full year. The domestic caustic soda contract index increased $45 per ton in the fourth quarter and $140 per ton during all of 2017. Export spot prices increased over $105 per ton in the fourth quarter of 2017 and $260 per ton during 2017. Based on the current supply and demand conditions between 20% and 25% of our caustic soda is being exported. In addition to higher caustic soda prices, we experienced higher chlorine and chlorine-derivatives pricing both in the fourth quarter and for the full year. While full year ethylene dichloride pricing was higher in 2017 compared to 2016, fourth quarter 2017 ethylene dichloride pricing was lower than the fourth quarter of 2016. In fact, the fourth quarter 2017 ethylene dichloride pricing was the lowest we have experienced in the last two years.…

Todd A. Slater - Olin Corp.

Management

Thanks, John. Let's turn to our 2018 cash flow forecast, which is on slide 12. We expect to generate $440 million of free cash flow before dividend payments. Our expectation is that by the end of 2018, the combination of debt reduction and EBITDA growth will reduce net debt-to-EBITDA leverage ratio to the 2.5 times range. Starting with the midpoint of our full year adjusted EBITDA forecast of $1.25 billion on the far left of the waterfall chart, we deduct $50 million estimated tax payments, reflecting income tax payments made to foreign jurisdictions in 2018. We are forecasting our cash tax rate will be in the 10% to 15% range for the year. Since 2015, Olin has not been a U.S. federal tax payer because of the utilization of net operating loss carry forwards, primarily arising out of costs associated with the acquisition in 2015. Because of tax credit carry forwards, we are not expecting to be a U.S. federal tax payer in 2018. While we continue to analyze the full impact of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, the cash tax benefit to Olin of the changes in tax law is expected to be minimal in 2018 due to tax credit carry forwards. We would expect the new tax law to provide cash tax benefits to Olin beginning in 2019. The new tax law is currently estimated to reduce our cash tax rates for 2019 and beyond to the 15% to 20% range. This translates into an estimated annual reduction in cash taxes of approximately $75 million. Column three includes the midpoint of our current forecast for capital spending of $400 million. The $400 million includes annual maintenance capital spending of between $225 million and $275 million. And the capital spending forecast also includes the investment associated…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. And our first questioner today will be from Frank Mitsch with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead

John, you gave a good breakdown as to why EDC has been under pressure, given that folks are using it as a loss leader to generate more caustic. I'm trying to figure out how the startup of Texas 9 has helped. There was an expectation that that would be a material help for you guys. What are you thinking about that in terms of improving your profitability in 2018 with Texas 9 up and running?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We have said all along, depending on where ethane prices come out that the benefit from that should be on a full-year basis $40 million to $50 million.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead

And John, do you think that that is how 2018 – that's embedded in your $1.25 billion EBITDA guidance?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Yes.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead

Awesome.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

However, the ethylene is going into EDC. So, the EDC price can have the effect of overwhelming that.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead

Understood. I know there's a couple of moving pieces there. And also, just trying to understand how I think about Olin from a turnaround perspective. You spent about $80 million in 2016. Obviously, you mentioned $220 million in 2017 and 2018 is going to be $30 million lower than that. Is kind of the $200 million level what we should think about in terms of on an annual basis or is it closer to that $80 million that you did two years ago?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I would say it's somewhere in the middle. And in my remarks where I talk – concluded, I talked about, if you look out with positive pricing trends beyond 2018, we also – I referred to more modest turnarounds. The problem we have, Frank, is that turnarounds in Epoxy, turnarounds in a VCM reactor are out of proportion, it's high in terms of total expense and they happened to occur in 2017 and 2018.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead

Okay. All right. That's helpful. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next questioner today will be Jason Freuchtel with SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst

To start with clarification on your guidance, does the 2018 EBITDA guidance include the price increase projections that are currently forecasted by the IHS Index?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

The only thing the guidance includes was the $30 in January that was actually published.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, understood. And also, recently Olin's realized caustic soda price increases that have been higher than the average increase realized in the market. Is it correct to assume that the more favorable realizations are due to contracts rolling over and new negotiated pricing? And if so, are you assuming in your guidance that contracts will be re-priced at more favorable rates in 2018?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Jason. This is Jim. Yeah. We're continuing to make progress on the contract pricing. So I mean, the assumption, it would not be incorrect to say that we're improving contracts and that's going to continue. So marked improvement in the fourth quarter as we went through contract season and you'll see that throughout the year in 2018.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, great. And can you discuss how much of your caustic sales were to the export market in 4Q 2017? And also, how close was your realized export price to the spot export price during the quarter?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I would say our exports were north of 20% of our total caustic sales. And I'm not going to address where we were relative to the spot price.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, and then one last one. In the $1.5 billion mid-cycle EBITDA forecast that you've provided, do you include an estimate for maintenance cost? And also, do you foresee a possible scenario in which each of the segments could achieve mid-cycle earnings at the same time?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

The answer to the first part of that is yes, and I mentioned that as we went from 2018 forward, we saw a scenario where we would have more modest turnarounds. I'd love to see all three there at the same time, but at the moment, I'd say I don't – not 100% sure where Winchester ends up, as we look at the world right now. We're kind of cautious on that.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. But EDC and Chlor Alkali could both hit mid-cycle at the same time.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I don't know that – I would say Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls in total could hit it because there's always going to be some trade-off between EDC and caustic as we try to describe.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst

Right. Okay, great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

And our next questioner today will be Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Arun Viswanathan - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Great. Thanks. I know that you guys inked (35:36) the $30 of the industry did in January. Maybe you can just comment on the potential for further pricing. You say that could be one of the upside risk on the year. Thanks.

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Arun, this is Jim Varilek. Yeah. We continue to believe in the fundamentals of the marketplace and there's nothing that we see that takes us off of that. Product continues to be tight in North America and Europe, because of the mercury shutdowns, and in Asia and China as well. So the fundamental premise that we've been speaking of for the last two plus years of a continuing tightening of the Chlor Alkali industry is intact and we see has legs (36:23).

Arun Viswanathan - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Great. Thanks. And just on the cash flow, there were some moving parts there. Looks like deferred taxes was up a little bit. And then also, just want to understand why you're expecting the interest to increase year-on-year as well. Do you expect to refinance any debt this year? Thanks.

Todd A. Slater - Olin Corp.

Management

Arun, this is Todd. We did refinance debt in January. We issued $550 million of 12-year notes at 5% interest. That was that $550 million of proceeds was used to reduce our term loan. That would have a – currently has a negative rate arbitrage to us. The other – that would be the biggest driver as well as overall our interest rates are higher in 2018 from a variable perspective, if you look at what LIBOR has done this year expectation for 2018 versus 2017.

Arun Viswanathan - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Great. Thanks. And just lastly, in Asia, we did see some weakness earlier in the caustic markets. I guess would you chalk that up to alumina? And do you expect alumina buyers to return to the market as we go on through the year? Thanks.

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

This is Jim. Yes, I would say for the most part that's correct. The alumina industry did shutdown for the winter season and then that should return on March 15 as those restrictions come off. So any time now we'd expect to see that demand return in China and more of the upward trends that we've seen in the past.

Arun Viswanathan - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And the next questioner today will be Don Carson with Susquehanna Financial. Please go ahead.

Donald David Carson - Susquehanna Financial Group LLLP

Analyst

Thank you. John, just want to get your thoughts on where the cycle goes from here. As you show on slide 11, you see mid-cycle adjusted EBITDA potential of $1.5 billion. We're into the third year of improving caustic prices. Historically, cycles would be three to five years. Obviously, there's some positive secular changes this time around. But where do you think we are in the cycle and when do you think mid-cycle occurs?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I think as it relates to caustic pricing itself, I think we're probably very close to mid-cycle. I think that we're in a place where there's no new capacity announced, but one would think at these prices that's going to entice people and that's a couple – it takes a couple of years to impact the market. So I would say on caustic itself, we're probably close to mid-cycle. I think if you look at where we are in everything else, chlorine has just started to move a little bit. The Epoxy business, I would say, 2017 should really represent a trough type level of earnings and that's just started to move. And obviously, I would say Winchester, we saw where Winchester was when it was at closer to peak in 2013, 2014. So I would say it's closer to trough.

Donald David Carson - Susquehanna Financial Group LLLP

Analyst

And a follow-up on your contract renegotiations. Some of your competitors seem to get quicker realization of the index. So what percentage of your contracts have you renegotiated to not only get a lower discount versus the index but also to reduce the price protection period? Where are we in that process?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I would say the average contract duration is somewhere in the three to five year range. This was the second renewal season where we're operating in an environment that was more favorable to the seller. So I would say we're probably somewhere approximately 40% to 50% of the way through that.

Donald David Carson - Susquehanna Financial Group LLLP

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And the next questioner today will be Alex Yefremov with Nomura Instinet. Please go ahead.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. You incurred $55 million of Harvey related cost this year and another $50 million of unplanned maintenance. What is your forecast for these types of cost embedded in your guidance for 2018?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We don't have anything embedded in there for hurricanes and we have a maintenance schedule that shows you what we're forecasting. And I think full year maintenance expense is expected to be $30 million lower year-over-year. Epoxy will be higher. Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls would be lower.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst

So there's no budget for unplanned, so to say, outages in the guidance?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

There's a budget around what it takes to do the planned outages that always has some deviation around perfect.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst

Okay. So just to think about these types of costs, the $55 million Harvey plus $50 million other unplanned, is it $105 million that should be a positive bridge item for 2018?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I would say the $55 million for Harvey should be. The $50 million, some of which was unplanned, would have said 2017 could have been better. I think you have to look at 2018, the maintenance we're forecasting as a discrete item and make a judgment of how well we're going to perform against that, maybe I'd say it that way.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. On Epoxy, if I just take your 4Q run rate and then flow through your maintenance schedule, I'm getting somewhere around $50 million to $60 million EBIT – or EBITDA improvement in 2018 versus 2017. Does this sort of the level of improvement that's in line with what's in your guidance?

Pat D. Dawson - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Yeah, that would be pretty consistent, again, built around improved demand, improved supply demand fundamentals and the fact that there's no new capacity that's been announced coming on stream.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And our next questioner today will be Eric Petrie with Citi. Please go ahead.

Eric B. Petrie - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

All right. Good morning, John.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Good morning.

Eric B. Petrie - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

A question on Winchester, would you say that the lower profitability is more related to lower demand or higher raw materials? And when do you think these pricing initiatives will offset the higher raws?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I would say, as we look at 2018, the biggest issue is the higher raw material costs, and at the moment, as I said, the ability to get sufficient price to offset that. And I would just offer editorially, Olin has announced price increases that would be sufficient to offset what we've seen in commodity metal costs, but the market has not followed that at this point.

Eric B. Petrie - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And then just in terms of chlorine end uses, one of the reasons you did the Dow Chlorine Products (43:49) diversify into other end uses. How much your chlorine is consumed in the EDC? And is there any opportunity to shift additional demand to HCL and bleach, et cetera?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

This is Jim. We don't really breakdown the percentages of chlorine that go to the different uses. But what I would say is, on a portfolio basis, we absolutely do look to optimize and put the chlorine where it has the highest value across the portfolio. And that's one of the benefits that we have is the ability to optimize the use of chlorine.

Eric B. Petrie - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And just to follow-up on EDC, a little bit surprised that you're still expecting lower prices as they were in fourth quarter due to the fact that you were expecting higher demand from Europe due to the mercury-based chlorine shutdown. So could you give any color on that?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

I think that what we would say is that, on a year-over-year basis, we expect to see a decline, but I would not expect to see a continuation from – at the very low levels that were experienced late in the fourth quarter and early part of January. There's a seasonal uptick and so forth. So we would expect some improvement, but on a year-over-year basis, we're still looking to see a downward year-over-year comparison.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

And just as a point of clarification, we said in the prepared remarks that a continuation of the current prices that are being experienced in EDC is a risk to our full year guidance.

Eric B. Petrie - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next questioner today will be John Roberts with UBS. Please go ahead.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Thanks. Todd, I just wanted to check, your cash tax rate in 2018 is 10% to 15%, and then in 2019, it goes up to 15% to 20% due to the expiration of credits partly offset by the benefit of reform. Is that the right way to think about it?

Todd A. Slater - Olin Corp.

Management

John, it is. And as we said, we think that's probably worth $75 million of good new stuff compared to what the old law would have been, starting in 2019.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Got it. And then, in Winchester, it sounds like once we lap the channel inventory correction that margins will still be lower than before the inventory correction. If that's true, what's the change in the supply-demand or competitive dynamics that's keeping price from recovering raw materials?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I think you would have to ask our competitors that question. I would just say editorially, we've announced price increases sufficient to recover the commodity metal cost changes we've seen. That has not been followed in the market. That is putting pressure on prices. I suppose there is a view that volume is more important than price.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. And if I could squeeze in one last one. I don't know if this is answerable. But on the EDC pricing situation, do you think that's more a function of excess ethylene or more a function of the excess chlorine from running the caustic card?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

I think it's more of a caustic dynamic than it is ethylene. You saw kind of the inverse impact where fourth quarter prices on caustic went up considerably and it put pressure on the EDC market in a seasonally low quarter.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next questioner will be Neel Kumar with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Neel Kumar - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Hi. Good morning. So, we've seen a pretty big increase in Chinese EPI prices since the middle of last year. Can you give us your thoughts on the drivers of that and whether prices will sustain given the environmental mandates in China?

Pat D. Dawson - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Yeah. Neel, this is Pat. Yeah. There has been a dramatic rise in China both on EPI and LER and the real driver behind that, the best we can understand it, is around some of the environmental standards and just better discipline by the government on cracking down on some of those issues. And so that's been also reported throughout Chlor Alkali. So, we think that some of these crackdowns – the question is, is that sustainable? Each month it goes by, it looks more and more sustainable. And that's why you've seen the rise that we referenced in – that John referenced in his comments on the big spike here that we've seen in EPI. And of course, that EPI passes right through to the non-integrated liquid epoxy resin producers. So, we believe that combination of stronger environmental regulations by the Chinese government, combined with a much tighter market for EPI and LER, will allow us to continue to see pricing improvements like you saw in the second half of last year and in the fourth quarter. Neel Kumar - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Great. And then I just want to clarify. Are the recent improvements in your contract terms, in terms of both lower lag and a higher percentage of index cost of price changes already embedded in your $1.25 billion guidance?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

The contract changes that were effective January 1 are embedded in our 2018 guidance. Neel Kumar - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: So also, in terms of just the terms, in terms of the lower lag and the higher realization.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

That's correct. Neel Kumar - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Okay, great. And then, maybe I just wanted to squeeze one last one in. In terms of the EDC prices, they seem to have rebounded recently probably as a result of the producer outage in Brazil. So do you think that these recent EDC price increases could be sustainable once the facility is back online or it seems like your guidance is assuming you're going to start to come back downwards post that facility coming back?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Yeah. Neel, this is Jim. First of all, I think that there has been an impact because of the event in Brazil. And so we are seeing some positive movement off of the lows. And that was kind of consistent with what I said before that we will see some movement off of those lows. And we're also moving into the seasonally stronger period of time for PVC. So we would expect to see some of the movement and impacted by that event. It's hard to say that you're going to embed a one-time event into your structural cost on EDC, but it certainly can have an effect here for the next few months. Neel Kumar - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next questioner today will be Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please go ahead.

Kevin W. McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst

Morning. In the month of January, there was quite a bit of talk about the effect of cold weather down south on the caustic soda market as it relates to loading and transport. So I'm wondering if you could comment on whether that has affected Olin and the degree to which you think it has affected the industry, and whether the net effect is good, bad or neutral from your point of view.

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

All right. Kevin, this is Jim. Yeah. I think it's been pretty well publicized that there was impact on the Gulf Coast and that impact is both across the Chlor Alkali industry but also customers as well. And as far as commenting is it a positive or a negative, I think what it does is that brings to light the tight situation that currently exists in the marketplace in that there are some dislocations of product and so forth and speak to the inventory levels that being low in the industry. And I think you saw that play out in the early part of the month, and everybody is recovering at this point in time and getting back into a more normal production cycles.

Kevin W. McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst

Do you think by March 31 you'll be in a position where your volumes are caught up and normalized?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

From an industry standpoint, what I think that you'll see is you'll see a lower operating rate in January, I think, when they're published here in the next week or so. And I think everybody will make an attempt to recover those lost (52:31) rate that we saw in January and February and March. To the extent that we're able to do that as an industry remains to be seen. I really can't comment. It depends how well we run and if we have any more inclement weather.

Kevin W. McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then second question, if I may, on Winchester. I think you referenced an expectation for stronger sales to the military. Obviously, the commercial side has been weak. Appreciate the notion that the business is near trough, but maybe you could provide a little bit more color on how you see the commercial versus military side playing out as 2018 progresses?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Well, historically, we have always said that between 10% and 15% of Winchester's sales were to the military. I think this year, you're going to see that be more in the range of 25% of the sales will be to the military. And that is a combination of higher absolute military sales and a lower commercial contribution to that.

Kevin W. McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The next questioner today will be Matthew Blair with Tudor, Pickering. Please go ahead. Matthew Blair - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Hey, good morning. A lot of talk on lower EDC prices and also seeing (53:50) lower PVC prices, but it looks like chlorine has held up pretty well. Any color on this? What's supporting chlorine, given some of the derivatives are weakening here? And is it just a matter of time before chlorine pulls off? Any insights into that?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Yeah. This is Jim. The dynamics are actually playing out as we've expected. We're seeing a good chlorine envelope pull. You heard Pat talk earlier about Epoxy being positive in terms of their demand. And we're seeing it across other industries as well, whether it'd be TiO2, HCL, bleach and polyurethanes, we're seeing very strong pull on chlorine. So we would not expect that to drop off and we'd actually expect it to see a continued positive trend. Matthew Blair - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Got it. Thanks. And then, on Epoxy, could you just remind us, is there anything that would inhibit your ability to capture some of these prices that we're seeing come through both in some of the component parts like EPI and BPA, as well as just basic liquid epoxy resin margin? Do you have fixed contracts to Dow that would prevent you from capturing any price increases?

Pat D. Dawson - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Yeah. Matthew, this is Pat. There's really no inhibition there at all that gets in the way of us capturing these prices. There's no fixed contracts of any type that we have with Dow. So, again, I think we're in a much better position here going into 2018 than we were certainly a year ago. Matthew Blair - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next questioner today will be Dmitry Silversteyn with Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. First of all, I just want to understand sort of the outlook for the Chlor Alkali and Vinyls segments. You expect volumes to be down in the first quarter, but for all of 2018, you still expect volumes to be up, correct?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We did not make a forecast of volumes in the Chlor Alkali segment for 2018 versus 2017. We just said volumes in Q1 would be down.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Exactly. So, I guess my question is, is this a preview of the year, or is there something peculiar about the first quarter with the turnarounds that would cause the volumes to be down?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I think the bigger issue coming into 2017 was we had inventory on the caustic side, and coming into 2018, we did not. And that was what the comment was designed to illustrate.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Got you. Okay. So you actually sold out of inventory in the first quarter on caustic, which gave you the volume which you weren't going to cap this time around. Okay. I understand. Secondly, we got chlorine pricing going up, as the previous caller mentioned. Ethylene pricing is going up. EDC pricing is going down. Did you make any money in EDC in the backend of the year and do you expect to in the first half of 2018?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I would say, Dmitry, the way we look at it is the combination of what are we getting for our chlorine, what are we getting for our ethylene and what are we getting for our caustic. And if that is a positive number, we made money by making EDC.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Got it. Okay. That makes sense. And then, just to finish up on the Chlor Alkali's. Are you seeing any more incremental closures of capacity in China due to these environmental regulation enforcements and any carryover of the mercury shutdowns in Europe that were still operating in 2017 that will not be in 2018?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

I would say that what you'll see is, in Europe specifically – this is Jim, in Europe specifically, you'll see a continuation or the full effect of the mercury shutdowns and so forth. So we're experiencing that. And I think that actually is playing out in the dynamics that we're seeing in Europe right now. In China, as Pat referred to earlier, there does appear to be teeth in these environmental laws and they are, in fact, taking action. And so I think we're going to see a continuation there of the Chinese enforcing their environmental laws and that does have an impact to the positive in terms of the market dynamics in Chlor Alkali.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Got it. Got it. Okay. And switching gears on Winchester really quick. Your pricing was down, your commercial ammunition was down in the fourth quarter, but your revenues were up. And given that military is 10% to 15% of sales, was it up that strongly that it basically offset the pricing and the decline in commercial?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Yes, it was.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Okay. And was it just a matter of timing or is that something we can look forward to in 2018?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

No. We would expect a significant increase year-over-year in military sales in Winchester in 2018 versus 2017.

Operator

Operator

And our next questioner today will be Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Yes. Just wanted to drill in a little more on this issue you described about this trade-off between caustic and EDC. What is your longer term demand growth outlook for caustic and derivatives and chlorine and derivatives? And do you think that EDC will likely remain the loss leader for Chlor Alkali operations globally?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

Steve, this is Jim. I mean we're very positive on the outlook for Chlor Alkali, caustic in particular. I mean, we think, again, the fundamentals are very strong and we expect to see that for some period of time. On the EDC side of things, it's somewhat dependent upon the demand that we see for EDC and throughout the PVC chain. It is encouraging to see GDPs and so forth being ticking up around the world and an indication of what we'll see in terms of construction industry and pull through of PVC. So to the extent that PVC continues to grow, and there is no new EDC capacity being added, over time, the fundamentals should improve on EDC as well.

Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Okay. And is it fair to say that your capacity is constrained on moving any more chlorine molecules into other derivatives other than EDC and/or is it worth considering any derivative of EDC as an expansion?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst

I would not – I don't think that you should consider that as a given. I think we do have flexibility as far as moving our chlorine around.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Especially over the longer term.

Operator

Operator

As there are no further questions, this will conclude the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to John Fischer for any closing remarks.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

So, I thank everybody for joining us today and we look forward to talking to you and reviewing our first quarter results in about 90 days. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And the conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.