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One Stop Systems, Inc. (OSS)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 10, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for joining us today to discuss One Stop Systems’ Financial Results for the Third Quarter ended September 30, 2023. With us today are the company’s President and Chief Executive Officer, Mike Knowles; and its Chief Financial Officer, John Morrison. [Operator Instructions] Before we conclude this call, I will provide some important information regarding the forward-looking statements made by management during this call. I would like to remind everyone that the call will be recorded and made available for replay in the Investors section of the company’s website. Now I would like to turn the call over to OSS President and CEO, Mike Knowles. Sir, please go ahead.

Mike Knowles

Analyst

Thank you, Morgan, and good afternoon, everyone. I’ve successfully completed my first full quarter as CEO, and I’m pleased with the building momentum and confidence in the rugged Edge processing market. We are well positioned for future growth at OSS. My engagement with customers and participation in global trade shows over this past quarter reaffirmed our unique position in the robust growth markets driven by artificial intelligence and sensor fusion, particularly in rugged high-performance compute demand at the Edge. In many instances, OSS is recognized as an expert in these markets. And in fact, in October, I participated on a panel at the aerospace event in Washington, D.C. regarding the technical demand for high-performance compute for artificial intelligence applications in commercial and defense markets. In Q3, we secured several significant wins across commercial and defense markets. These successes align with our strategy to broaden the number of prime and customer contracts, increase our presence on more platforms and pursue multiyear contracts that can boost our pipeline and future revenue. These key wins include a liquid cooled server solution for sonar processing for a foreign navy submarine class. A follow-on win in hardware buy for an additional storage system product for the P-8, a new contract with an existing defense prime contractor for a new classified platform, a commercial order and win in a dynamic racing industry encompassing our product at this newest OSS customer. The award from the foreign navy submarine program is special noteworthy in how it exemplifies our key objectives. We successfully established a new military customer, a new defense prime and a new international customer while securing a position on a new platform. We believe this will lead to a multiyear product and support contract commencing as early as 2024. This sale is cultivated, captured and closed…

John Morrison

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Earlier today, we issued a press release with our results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2023. A copy of the release is available in the Investor Relations section of our website at onestopsystems.com. For the third quarter, we reported consolidated revenue of $13.7 million. Of this, OSS contributed $5.5 million and Bressner contributed $8.2 million, inclusive of $377,000 of OSS products. Quarterly revenues reflect a reduction of $5.1 million or 26.9% compared to the same period in 2022. Approximately $4.3 million of such reduction was attributable to the loss of our former media customer from who we do not expect further revenue. The balance of the revenue reduction was associated with delays in certain customer orders for defense applications, lack of revenue from a bankrupt autonomous truck customer as well as a slowdown and general malaise in commercial markets. As most of you are aware, our [Technical Difficulty] comprise of two segments: OSS, which is located [Technical Difficulty] and Bressner, which is located in Munich, Germany. OSS is involved in the design, and manufacturer of high-performance, ruggedized Edge processing and storage systems and connectivity. Bressner operates as a system integrator with standard and custom all-in-one hardware systems and components. They also serve as a channel for OSS products to the European and Middle Eastern markets. Gross profit in the third quarter decreased to $3.7 million with overall gross margin percentage decreasing 40 basis points to 26.6% due to a higher mix of Bressner revenue. The gross margin for OSS business improved 1.7 percentage points to 32.4%, which was attributable to the absence of lower-margin sales to the customer’s former media customer and a higher mix of its rugged Edge processing products. However, the improvements to margin were offset by…

Mike Knowles

Analyst

Thank you, John. Last quarter, we announced the departure of two OSS directors as well as the appointment of Vice Admiral Mike Dumont and myself to the Board of Directors. We also reconfirmed our commitment to continue the reprofiling of the Board to align with the strategic path and desired skill sets of directors. As noted in the 8-K and earnings release, Joe Manko, Managing Member and Senior Principal at Horton Capital Management has been selected and appointed to serve on the Board effective November 10, 2023. Mr. Manko has been serving as a managing member of senior principal Horton Capital Management an investment fund since 2013. His prior asset management and investment banking experience, having served in executive positions at BZ Fund Management, Deutsche Bank and Merrill Lynch and also legal experience having served as corporate finance attorney at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher and Flom. Mr. Manko also serves as a Director on the Board of Safeguard Scientific and Koru Medical Systems and has previously served as a Director on the Board of Creative Realities and Wireless Telecom Group. The One Stop Systems Board has dynamically voted to temporarily increase the size of the Board from 7 to 8 at this time and appoint Mr. Manko to fill the vacancy created by the increase. The Board intends to further temporarily increase the size of the Board to no more than 9 and add one additional Board Member with relevant defense experience during the Q4 time frame. There are candidates actively in review to fill this position. The director of Slate presented for election by the company’s shareholders at its 2024 Annual Shareholder Meeting in May, will be a 7-person slate. This director of Slate will be chosen by the Board prior to filing the 2024 Annual Meeting proxy. We…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We’ll go to Brian Kinstlinger with Alliance Global Partners. Your line is open.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. Is there any way, Mike, to quantify the pipeline? I am not sure if I heard it in Defense today compared to either when you joined, which I think was a little bit depleted or versus a year ago? I’m just trying to gauge how well you’re building pipeline since you’ve joined?

Mike Knowles

Analyst

Yes. Prior announcements had the pipeline structure of opportunities around $800 million. It’s about $850 million. So with some of the additional work in the last quarter with validation and going through each of those efforts line by line, we’re comfortable now that our 5-year unfactored pipeline is in excess of $900 million.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

How much of that – it’s such a big number, and it’s so far away. How much of that do you think is addressable or biddable say, through a next year?

Mike Knowles

Analyst

Yes, Brian, when I – when I say a 5-year plan, so what we do is we build out 5 years of pipeline opportunity broken out by year. So the sum of those 5 years is the $900 million. So there are elements of that – that are biddable in as early as 2023, going through 2024. So that 5 years I discussed was really ‘24 through ‘28.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great. And then maybe you talked pipeline within defense, but what about for your AI transportables in commercial? I know you talked about maybe some forward decisions right now on the commercial side. But how do you see that opportunity there in the near-term?

Mike Knowles

Analyst

So the pipeline that I discussed was across both our commercial and defense market. So it’s all of the AI transportable, rugged Edge processing capabilities in products that we’re doing. I just don’t have the percentage mix between commercial and defense here with me. It’s probably fairly close to 50-50 based on the last time it came through. And then the second part of your question, again, Brian?

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

No, that was it. It was going to be just on that. But I guess now you’ve been there a full quarter as you evaluated your business, is there any investments you think are necessary to fill visible holes that you think are necessary to help you return to growth?

Mike Knowles

Analyst

Yes. So as I mentioned earlier, with the engagement, the number of increased engagements we’re going. And I also mentioned seeing some more broad opportunity internationally. One of the areas we will be looking to augment and invest that will be to kind of continue to build out our sales team so we can get to capturing and executing against that – the resources against that $900 million pipeline. And we need the resources to help execute and convert that from pipeline into actual – capturable programs and elements that we can get. And then our product lines, as I mentioned, we released Rigel recently, Cernis & Donati has just come on the scene. So 3U SDS has been strong. So from a product perspective, we’re in a good place right now. We will be making investments in 2024 as we look to the next generation of our product line. So we continue to stay at the front end of the market in terms of technology. And then as I had mentioned, I think it was last earnings call, we will be looking to augment the team. We’re starting to get more discrete defense contracts now, so we will look to augment the team with some contract support, probably part time to start. And then also, we’ve – you’re talk about adding some additional program management to support running the programs as we win them and also to support our capture of these bigger, broader multiyear contracts.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Okay. Last one for me. This one is probably for John. The core OSS gross margin recovered nicely. I assume the P&L without your media customer was the major driver there. But then I also heard your comments on potentially taking on some lower-priced or lower margin business to improve the cash flow even if it’s just a little bit. So how should we think about where you are today or just report it in the core OSS gross margin, should we expect it will be softer in the coming quarters given your comments? Or given the mix, it’s indicative or even stronger as you book new business? Just help us from this new point without that media customer.

John Morrison

Analyst

I would – at this point, we’re thinking it’s when we are projecting it’s going to be flat, largely because we are dealing with the underutilization in our production facility on revenue. We need to get back to more of it in line of doing about $9 million a quarter from OSS’ side to be totally be utilized. Many of these resources are resources that are involved in the planning, purchasing and management of inventory as well as obviously the production for people. But we have already gone through a reduction in force back in April of 2023. We believe that as we recover these resources will be fully utilized. But until then, it’s weighing down on the overall margin for OSS. And obviously, then the proportion to the resume revenue that’s increasing is having a significant impact on the consolidated margin percentage.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Sorry, I said I’d be done but one more. At $9 million fully utilized and just core OSS that gets you back to approaching 40% gross margin for that segment? Or is that a little too optimistic?

John Morrison

Analyst

It’s more of the 35% to 40% range.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great. Thank you, guys.

John Morrison

Analyst

Thank you, Brian.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from David Williams with Benchmark. Your line is open.

David Williams

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for letting me asking question. I guess maybe, Michael, on just thinking about the defense industry, and it seems to have held in well during this down cycle. And it seems to suggest that we’re – spending still remains favorable. I know you touched on this in the script. But outside of the timing of the budgets and some of the approvals, it feels like you’re gaining some really good momentum. But could you talk maybe a little bit about the hurdles between here and going into production and just what does that timing look like? So we have a better understanding on how we should think these – progress through the channel here? Thank you.

Mike Knowles

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open.

Yes. Sure, David. I think if you’re – in one part, you are referencing the continued resolution of the CR we have a couple of sole source awards we’ve been looking to get and to be able to provide proposals on that have been held up for the CR. So we expect those near-term to come across as soon as the CR is resolved. That’s an issue it seems every year now that defense companies have to deal with. I think if you look at how does the defense elements come alive as we build out a lot of the efforts in all we’re doing now, we will see – we will find homes on new procurements in late ‘24, ‘25 and 2026. However, there are opportunities in there where we’re finding where if you can intercept a platform upgrade or tech refresh cycle, you have opportunity to make things happen a little bit faster. An example is the foreign navy submarine program that I talked about. They happen to be in a tech refresh cycle that we caught early, and we were able to get in there with our technology. And from the time we identified that opportunity through our Bressner unit to contract award was less than a year. That’s probably usually a lot of times unheard of in the defense market, but it is doable when you catch those time frames. There are a number of prime contractors in vehicles and platforms that we’re talking to and the defense services both in the U.S. and globally, where we have, in those discussions seen where their technology refresh upgrades are. And we’ve positioned ourselves to be in those competitions and then those discussions for the architecture upgrades. And those start to span the years from ‘24 through ‘26 and beyond. And then we – those are ones who would have identified, put into our pipeline and now have assigned a resource in to capture those going forward.

David Williams

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open.

Great. Thank for that. And I intended to just say congrats earlier, but just on the success and acceleration, it seems like you’re gaining a lot of interest here, and it’s great to hear the enthusiasm and see the progress. I guess on that, Mike, just kind of given your time in the seat now, you’ve had some time to settle in and look through things. Is there anything today that you see that’s different than previously, either more positive or things that are just different than you had thought? Anything that gives you, I guess, more optimism today than you might have had as you came into the role? Thank you.

Mike Knowles

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open.

Yes. Great, David. So probably two things. First is we called it a little bit of the new norm around here. As I mentioned, the number of proposals we’re working on. I would say there is a heightened level of energy, excitement, activity, and sense of urgency in the business to grow and address the opportunities. We’re seeing them come in the defense market as we would have expected with the addition of Robert Kalebaugh, myself as we increase focus in doing so. But we’re seeing ample elements inside the commercial market, too, that are raising some interest and some activity for us. So I’m excited about the new normal, the pace that we’re working at here to get after growth, which I mentioned augmenting the team to continue to try to build upon that momentum. And I guess maybe another example from the defense side had the opportunity to spend a week on the Capitol in D.C. interfacing with Congress Health Appropriations Committee, and the House Armed Services Committee and be able to tell the OSS story. And I was quite enthused to find the – how well our story resonated with the opportunity to bring advanced high-performance compute, artificial intelligence, machine learning to the battlefield. And you can see, given the – given what’s going on in the world today, the opportunity to be able to arm warfighters right, is something that resonates in the Services. It’s resonating through the half and half and being able to tell our story there and see it resonates so well. Again, gives me optimism that we’re on a good track, and we’re going to have support not only from our customers but our government also.

David Williams

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open.

Thanks for the color.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Joe Gomes with NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Joe Gomes

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Good evening, thanks for taking my questions.

Mike Knowles

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Hi, Joe.

Joe Gomes

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

So just in your press release, you talked about an overall delay in deployment of the technology. I was wondering if we can get some more color on that statement. Is that more just due to the economy? Or is that potential customers just having concern about applying leading-edge technology? Is there something else going on there? Just wondering if you could add a little more color to that.

Mike Knowles

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Yes, Joe. And I think we’ve talked earlier in the statements about the kind of general malaise in the commercial market. We’re seeing the defense market move out short of the continued resolution effects. On the commercial market side, I would say it’s absolutely not the slow adoption of the technology. There is – from the technical engineers and the applications, there is plenty of interest and discussion going on about how to move forward and utilize the benefits of compute and artificial intelligence, machine learning, get it out to the Edge. The malaise really comes along when you try to convert into getting a request for proposal and a funded program out the door to make a purchase and a buy. And what we’ve seen there is the kind of just general tendency to not have a sense of urgency to make it happen this month. It’s okay if it happens next month or next quarter. We don’t see people or companies or efforts looking to push things out by years. But there is just been kind of a malaise and general ability to wait or delay another month or quarter to put things to a line, if that makes sense.

Joe Gomes

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Okay. And then last quarter, you talked about, you thought somewhere in the nature of $5 million to $6 million of defense work had been pushed out into 2024. Has that number grown since then?

Mike Knowles

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

It will be about that number. We will see how Q4 ends, but we will be in that – it will be that general range.

Joe Gomes

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Okay, thank you for that. And congrats on getting the security clearance for the facility. Again, one of the issues that seems to be a repeating is the difficulty in finding and hiring people with security clearances. Just there is a big demand and limited supply, it appears. I’m just wondering how you guys are finding that and if that is an issue at all?

Mike Knowles

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Yes, Joe, thanks for the question. So the – I think one of the benefits we have today is the kind of work we’re doing right now doesn’t require us to have the cleared individuals that would – that you might align with the market you’re talking about people with staff or SCI clearances, where we’re operating here in the near-term, we can get our own people cleared and/or the workforce, especially in San Diego or remote, you’ve had to remote, you can find individuals to fill that. And the reason is for right now with the products and the work we’re doing, the use of the clearance for us is really more about being able to get inside the understanding of the mission and the application of the technology, and that allows us to explore the ability to broaden our scope on an effort. We’ve had two such – actually more than two meetings probably in the last few months where myself, Robert both have clearances, where we’ve been able to explore more broadly what a platform does. And in doing so, we were able to come back and identify broader scope of work or effort that OSS could do and could bring with our technology. And that’s where we’re going to see the benefit here in the near-term over the next couple of quarters. As we build out into the years an established position, the use of a CIF – compute classified information facility and people with the clearance as I discussed, they would come along, but we will have some runway to be able to identify that.

Joe Gomes

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Okay. Great. And one more for me, if I may. Historically, you guys have given the quarter end pipeline in terms of the number of opportunities for those $1 million plus. And I think in the last quarter, you were 33 opportunities. Do you have that same number for the end of the third quarter?

Mike Knowles

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Yes, we don’t have that number. In part, we’re transitioning from kind of those prior definitions. We’re going to involve our – evolve our pipeline information and data here to start to give you insight into awards and we will be aligning along some of the themes I mentioned earlier in the earnings call, where we’re really key – strategic for us is adding new customers, new primes and then getting on additional platforms and getting multiyear contracts. So we will look to engage across all those elements a way to – to be able to provide enough information to give you maybe even a more in-depth sense of how we’re doing on securing orders.

Joe Gomes

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Okay. Great, thank you.

Mike Knowles

Analyst · NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.

Thanks, Joe.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Max Michaelis with Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Max Michaelis

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just looking at the low looking at the slowing economy in Germany, how has this impacted your outlook on the Bressner business?

Mike Knowles

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

So to date, we haven’t seen a major impact of it slowing the business. We’re at the end of the quarter and the move we’re seeing some timing or alignment, but we haven’t seen the cancellation of orders or a downtick. The booking there continues to be generally online quarter-to-quarter. So at this point, we’re still seeing them be able to work through any slowness in Germany.

Max Michaelis

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

And then last one for me. Just given the push out in orders in the autonomous trucking space, I want to stick with the commercial market, maybe what are some areas you can highlight? I know you talked about win in the auto racing industry, but maybe some area – other areas in the commercial market, you’re pointing your sales force to that you’re seeing maybe pockets of strength. Thanks.

Mike Knowles

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Sure, Max, thanks. And I mentioned two of them in the earnings release there on the commercial side that we’re quite excited about, two were in the data center space using our core UP expansion chassis. With the onslaught of the hyperscalers and others buying large massive amounts of GPUs, those GPUs need to go somewhere. And in areas where – there is some niche areas in data centers where they are looking to manage the utilization of those GPUs and mend them into servers. There is some interesting areas where a couple of companies we’re finding some good traction with. So we see that as a nice area for us to go and work through. In addition, I mentioned the multiyear contract that we’re working to finalize here in the commercial aerospace market, where we will be able to bring some Edge processing into that market. So we will be looking to provide more insight on both of those efforts. We see those as potentially good ones on the commercial side. And then as I mentioned, we are working on RFP now for autonomous trucking. We’re seeing vigil in that market. It’s had a lot of promise, just had some slowing. So I use the cautious optimism on it. We continue to refine. We work through these. Luckily for us, be it design and efforts and solutions we use for autonomous trucking are the same ones we use in a lot of the defense work. So we’re not having to invest special product development or anything in that market. So we can be quick to respond. And if anything, we’re finding a lot of the work we’re doing in defense market creates more flexibility in our offerings for the autonomous truck market. So we will continue to monitor them, but we – like I said, we use cautious optimism on that one.

Max Michaelis

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Alright, thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

At this time, we have no further questions. I’d like to turn the conference back to our speakers for any closing remarks.

Mike Knowles

Analyst

Morgan, thanks for that. And we look forward to speaking with you again when we report in March, and we hope everybody has a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Now before we conclude today’s call, I would like to provide the company’s safe harbor statement that includes important cautions regarding forward-looking statements made during today’s call. One Stop Systems cautions you that statements in the presentation that are not a description of historical facts are forward-looking statements. These statements are based on the company’s current beliefs and expectations. Such forward-looking statements include, for example, those regarding the company’s expectations for revenue growth generated by new products, future changes to its business objectives and members of management and the Board, design wins and M&A activity amongst other things. The inclusion of such forward-looking statements and others should not be regarded as a representation by OSS that any of its plans will be achieved. Actual results may differ from those set forth in the presentation due to the risks and uncertainties inherent in our business, including, without limitation, that the market for our products is developing and may not develop as we expect. Military conflicts, global pandemics or other disasters or public health concerns and economic instability in regions of the world where we have operations, customers or source material or sell products may affect such markets. Our operating results could be negatively impacted by inflationary pressures, supply chain constraints, increased interest rates, U.S. government continuing resolution CR or other economic conditions. Our operating results may fluctuate significantly, which would make our future operating results difficult to predict and could cause operating results to fall below expectations or guidance. If we are unable to offset anticipated future decreases in revenue in our media and entertainment space with other business, our operating financial results may be adversely affected. Our ability to successfully integrate the operation systems, technologies, product offerings and personnel with acquired companies, if any, may prove difficult and…