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Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 5, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the OpenText Corporation Second Quarter Fiscal 2021 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] I would like to turn the conference over to Harry Blount, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Harry Blount

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. On the call today is OpenText’s Chief Executive Officer and Chief Technology Officer, Mark J. Barrenechea; and our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Madhu Ranganathan. We have some prepared remarks, which will be followed by a question-and-answer session. This call will last approximately 60 minutes with a replay available shortly thereafter. I would like to take a moment and direct investors to the Investor Relations section of our website, investors.opentext.com, where we have posted our consolidated investor presentation that will supplement our prepared remarks today. The presentation includes information and financials specific to our quarterly results, notably our updated quarterly factors on Page 7 as well as a strategic overview. And now an update on Investor Day, I’m pleased to announce that OpenText executive team will be hosting a virtual Investor Day on Thursday, March 11. To register, please visit our Investor Relations website or contact our IR team directly. I would also like to announce that OpenText management will be participating at the Morgan Stanley Conference on March 1 and 4. We look forward to engaging with you in the coming weeks. I will now proceed with a reading of our Safe Harbor statement. Please note that during the course of this conference call, we may make statements relating to the future performance of OpenText that contain forward-looking information. While these forward-looking statements represent our current judgment, actual results could differ materially from a conclusion, forecast or projection in the forward-looking statements made today. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in drawing any such statement. Additional information about the material factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from a conclusion, forecast or projection in the forward-looking information as well as risk factors, including in relation to the current global pandemic that may project future performance results of OpenText are contained in OpenText’s recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q as well as in our press release that was distributed earlier this afternoon, which may be found on our website. We undertake no obligations to update these forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. In addition, our conference call may include discussions of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial measures to their most direct comparable GAAP measures may be found within our public filings and other materials, which are available on our website. And with that, I’m pleased to hand the call over to Mark.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Thank you, Harry. And good afternoon to everyone, and thank you for joining today’s call. I want to open the call with a note of optimism. Over the last year, the world has experienced health, financial, social, political, and environmental crises. Well, many of these crises continue and the effects are long lasting and that forever changed the way we work live and love green shoots are emerging all around us. With an accelerating vaccine rollout, the prospects of a global economic recovery appear to be brightening. Today in the U.S., more people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine than cases reported. Economists are increasingly predicting a strong economic recovery in calendar of 2021, due to a combination of rebounding demands, rising prices and low inventory levels. We’re also so much better informed today than we were a year ago. The transformative nature of digital and extreme automation is clear. And we remain in the early stages of the fastest, deepest, and most consequential technology disruption in the history of the world. Businesses are accelerating their digital capabilities and are placing greater emphasis on trusted global partners, time to value, modern work, sustainable supply chains, tell our customer experiences and cloud plus edge computing. What has become clear is that the cloud plus network plus edge are inextricably linked. Our new architecture and platform of Cloud Edition places OpenText information management demonstrably in the middle of important demand conversations for companies of all sizes large, medium and small. The previous four quarters at OpenText are reflective of the amazing strength and durability of our employees, our customers, our company, our business model, and the transformative aspects of our products. Over the last year, we have generated a record $3.3 billion and trailing 12-month revenues are record $1.1…

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Thank you, Mark. And thank you all for joining us today. We had a strong second quarter and a solid first half of this fiscal year 2021. Our preemptive responses at the onset of the global pandemic strengthened us as we continue to lead the way in modern work. Our disciplined financial management has allowed us to support key growth initiatives, maintain the resilience of our business model and this is reflected in that expanded margins and solid cash simulation. I will speak to Q2, Q3 and our quarterly factors, our fiscal 2021 total growth strategy, our fiscal 2021 annual target model ranges and our long-term aspirations, all outlined in our Q2 investor presentation that is posted on the IR website today. All references will be in the millions of USD unless noted otherwise and compared the same period in the prior fiscal year. So let me start with revenues. Q2, total revenues for the quarter were $855.6 million, 10.9% or up 8.8% on a constant currency basis, including a strong contribution from Carbonite as we completed the one year market, December, 2020. There was a favorable effects impact to revenue of $16.2 million. The geographical split of total revenues in the quarter was Americas 60%, EMEA 32% and Asia Pacific 8%. Year-to-date total revenues were $1.659 billion, up 13% or up 11.5% in a constant currency basis. Q2 annual recurring revenues were $684.9 million, up 21.5% or up 19.5% on a constant currency basis. As a percent of total revenues, ARR, annual recurring revenue was 80% for the quarter up from 73% of the second quarter of fiscal 2020. Here, I would like to highlight that we achieved positive organic ARR growth during the quarter on a reported basis. Year-to-date annual recurring revenues were $1.355 billion, up 21.7% or…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Raimo Lenschow of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Hey, congrats from me on a great quarter. Mark, you talked a little bit about the recovery or the green shoots of recovery you see everywhere. And it’s great to see the guidance decrease now, it’s fully organic what we see for next quarter. If you think about the next few quarters looking out and the guidance you’ve given there. Is there kind of the new normal, it’s an element of recovery in there, so that’s better than normal. Like, how do we have to think about it? What you see in there. And then had one follow-up.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Yes, thank you for the question. Look, if I wind back to a year ago, our energy was very much on our preemptive sort of decisions that ultimately strengthened us through the year. But if I look at the year ahead, certainly for the remainder of the fiscal year, which is through end of June, we see those green shoots. I mean, there are four things that come to mind. The first is, modern work is really accelerating, content management, workflow, e-signature, projects in collaboration. Second is we see this rebound of our business network volumes and industries that are seeing an increase, healthcare, automotive, retail, a lot of green shoots there for us on the business network. Security has come front of mind post solar wins and our ability to really provide data protection and the next generation of threat intelligence based on behaviors or signatures. And then Raimo, you have all the – I think the secular things around movement to cloud and the need to have that trusted partner on a global basis. So we feel like very sustained trends coming into the calendar year and we’ve had four quarters of experience through the pandemic and each quarter has been getting sequentially stronger. So that’s part of the reason for a bit more visibility into the fiscal year as we come into the second half and welcome your second year.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Yes. Okay, perfect. And then on the cloud, so we know you’re talking 21.2 and 21.4, some things really exciting when it comes out. What do you see in terms of customer interest in terms of how they’re kind of migrating over to the cloud? Is that – do you see like new workloads going into the clouds and the existing stuff is still kind of staying on premise? Do you see the migration starting? What’s the momentum that you’re seeing there? Thank you.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Yes. Thank you for that. Look, at Investor Day, I plan to go a much deeper on the kind of the status of Cloud Edition. Let me just give you a few examples. I look at our content cloud and support for modern work, we have new workloads and expand at work going on at the NIH in the U.S. and European Central Bank on the experience cloud. We have a new customer like PG&E and expanded workloads for social commerce at L’Oréal. On the business network side, we’re very excited about – we’re all very focused on a pandemic and rightfully so, but the greater challenge is really the environment and the circular economy. So our work, in supporting very demonstrable features to support that circular economy with customers like, Nestlé. Our protection cloud doing work with high of Thomson Reuters on our security and protection cloud and I’m really excited about how the developer cloud, everything as a public API is going to contribute to organic growth in fiscal 2022. So it’s all about the cloud additions. I think it’s a mixture of taking off cloud, current workloads to a private managed service. It’s about adding new workloads and our SaaS offerings. It’s attracting new customers and also a new market of our API services. And I plan to go on a lot more detail at Investor Day.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Okay. I’m looking forward to that. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Stephanie Price of CIBC. Please go ahead.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Good afternoon.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Hi, Stephanie.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Hi. Let’s talk a little bit about which pieces of the cloud can drove that outperformance versus prior expectations. Did you see kind of outsize growth in Carbonite or CE or business networks? How to kind of think about that outperformance of cloud this quarter?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Yes, I would – I pointed to three pieces. On the content side and the content cloud, again for the reasons I just previously talked about support for modern work. Second is the business network, and the increase in volumes and nice new green shoots in a variety of industries. And Carbonite overall just had a strong quarter from the data protection Carbonite side, Webroot and threat intelligence, as well as bright cloud. So those are the three standouts, Stephanie, I’d point to the content cloud, business network and Carbonite in general.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Okay. That’s helpful. And within Carbonite, kind of thinking about the upside opportunities here and the cross selling into the enterprise and extension of the partner network. Just curious, where we are in those initiatives or the performance in Carbonite was really more a function of just the existing prosumer, consumer market kind of driving those sales.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Yes, there are three drivers. The first is, just better running the existing business and it is a unique go-to-market. And this is where we sell to, we enable, we deploy to RMM and MSPs. We don’t really – we of course, sell to some SMBs directly, but the vast majority of our business is through RMMs and MSP. And it’s a very unique channel. I know others are claiming they invented it, they did and that’s okay. But our business is through this for a unique channel. So one growth is just a better managing that. Two is, increased innovation. I’m very excited about 21.2 and an integrated console that delivers on the promise of integrating Carbonite and Webroot to move through that channel of our RMM and MSP. The third is, uplifting kind of, upselling, upscaling the product into the enterprise. And we started to see some green shoots there. I mentioned a few names TD Securities, Hyatt, Thomson Reuters, Prudential, who are using a mixture of Carbonite data protection or bright cloud. So those are the three approaches Stephanie that we’re looking to grow. It’s just better managing the platform to RMMs and MSPs. It’s to accelerating innovation, things like CASB, things like an integrated console, next generation of threat intelligence continuing to focus on behaviors for signatures. And then what I call it, upscaling the product into the enterprise and we’ve begun to see some green shoots on the enterprise customers I just mentioned.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Steep of Scotia Capital. Please go ahead.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Please go ahead

Great, thanks. Mark, maybe you could talk just following up on the content cloud driving growth. Can you give us a sense of what that multi-year migration cycle might look like? I know that might be taking some of the excitement from the March day, but in any context of where we are and then I have one quick follow-up.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Please go ahead

Yes. My team strongly encouraged me to save the gunpowder for Investor Day, if you will. But let me say it this way, Paul. We are in literally the earliest of innings truly are. We’re less than 10% migrated of our installed base into our five clouds. So it is still the earliest of innings to have our installed base fully on the cloud addition, architecture and platform. And it’s not just a lift and shift of the platform. We can manage it better. We can manage it at a lower price, but we want to bring them to a modern environment. We want to manage the application stack. We want to be able to expand workloads. We want to be able to bring them to all of information management. So I would just summarize that we’re in the literally earliest of innings, we’re less than 10% migrated on cloud. Look, Cloud Edition has only been in the market just a little over a year. So it remains the largest – the single largest opportunity we have to drive growth is to migrate our installed base.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Please go ahead

Great. And then risk of wearing out my welcome here. How should we think about longer term as we sort of move over from cloud? How should we think about that license line or maybe how are you managing that transition to make customers more or less agnostic about the purchase decision? Thanks folks.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Please go ahead

Yes. Thank you, Paul. I think you’ll notice, I didn’t use the word license at all in my script. And the emphasis is all on cloud. Let me point to a few things. The first is our annual recurring revenue, ARR with 80%. It’s all about our business, but when you benchmark us to Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, SAP, we are ahead of every one of those in terms of our transition to ARR. We’re at 80%. We have a – our target model is 81% to 83% for the year, but you look at established companies like IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, SAP, we’re ahead of every single one of them and where we are as ARR as a percent of our business. Second I’d point to our support business, which is a support and update business, the ability to get security updates, the ability to get rapid new features that are relevant and easy to consume that business grew 6% as we noted. So our strategy is let customers decide as customer choice of how they want to consume. I said this many years ago, I am agnostic as to how they want to consume. We are opinionated on growing our margin as you can see through the years that we’re not agnostic there. And we’ve – we’re just going to grow cloud faster than everything else as you’re seeing. So customers still had the choice is clearly cloud first ARR is leading and dominating were ahead of our peers, and we’re simply going to grow faster in cloud and ARR adverse that transactional side of the business.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Please go ahead

Paul, if I can maybe before we get to the last question, I just – we don’t philosophically believe that we should force it, because it’s still customer choice. And some companies are forcing it. But they’re also in a lot lower ARR than we are. And so it’s really the ARR piece that is really a standout at 80%, not just at OpenText, but when measured to our peers.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Please go ahead

That helps. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Thanos Moschopoulos of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Hi, good afternoon. Hey Mark, how would you characterize customer buying behavior in terms of sales cycles, decision processes, deal sizes. Is it starting to look a lot more similar to pre-pandemic or are we still kind of a weird environment in that regard?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

I would say it’s returning, it’s not fully back to pre-pandemic, but it’s a lot less uncertain in bureaucratic than it was maybe in the first half of last year. There is no doubt a greater emphasis. And I think this is new. So it’s not pre-pandemic or during pandemic. I just think this is new. It is an emphasis on time to value. That there’s an immediacy, there’s a time to value, and it’s also a look to global trusted partners versus – so less risk adverse. So it’s a good question. Deal sizes, I think are slightly up. I think decision cycles are slightly down or slightly shrunk. It’s – I wouldn’t say it’s fully back to pre-pandemic, but it’s more there than not and time to value is certainly emphasized in the majority of our transaction today.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Great. And then a question for Madhu, as I look at your guidance and your target model for the year that would seem to imply a fair bit of gross margin compression in the second half in professional services and cloud. Maybe just to clarify was that be a function of comps being a restorative part of levels and expectation of travel expenses going up for maybe just conservatives minor parks.

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

So thank you for that. So definitely as Mark was alluded, we are investing in the second half and we’re investing not just putting medic and come back, but also in terms of hires, and building up for the next year. And from a gross margin perspective, that also includes investment cloud services and customer support as well.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Presumably maybe to improve the capacity, right [indiscernible] utilization of any type of capacity, would that be fair?

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Yes, and that’d be fair as well. Yes.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Yes, okay. Thanks for that one.

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Tse of National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Yes. Thank you. With respect to the shift to the cloud, I’m just kind of curious, is there an opportunity to kind of create there’s a step function up in terms of organic growth? What’s that transition here?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Richard, thanks for the question. As we noted in our script, we had in the quarter, organic ARR growth on reported the currency. And I expect to have organic growth in the cloud in the second half of the year. In terms of a step up, we’ll maybe talk more about what that means, but I’m expecting cloud to grow organically, just to say it directly based on the factors we talked about.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Okay. Yes, I’m just asking, because it was sort of looking at Slides 21 and 24, where you highlight your customers and the number of products that they’re signed up for and it seems like they’re signing up for more. And I guess the line of questioning was around as these platforms become more uniform, the ability to sell on that basis I would think should be easier, which is why I’m asking a question, but…

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Yes. Yes, and look, if I cannot point to the principles I talked a little bit about and they’re important principles behind Cloud Editions. I think that’s partly of what you’re noting that once my graded into the OpenText Cloud, we have the ability to deploy the features for customers and they don’t have that friction in the system, right. The more integrated we get again, the less friction to more modules and as we get to more standardized product, the ease of both consumption and new modules. So it’s no doubt that Cloud Editions and running the cloud is going to give us the opportunity, because of the integration to deploy more capabilities and to have customers be able to consume more.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Okay. That makes sense. With respect to the acquisitions, I know you talked about us are one part of your growth strategy. What does that environment look like today? And I guess related to that, are you looking to sort of fortify the markets that you’re currently in, or would you kind of look at it expanding into new marks sort of like what you did with Carbonite and security?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Yes. Well, let me take it as an opportunity, I’ll answer the question directly, but I’m going to take it as an opportunity to highlight how we believe we create value. Number one, these are co-number one, number one, number one, organic growth. And that’s top of the list. And as we look into the remainder of the second half of the fiscal year and the calendar year, we’re clearly emphasizing organic growth today and also the step up in our outlook. Second way – number two of number one is margin. And we’ve just been on a stellar track to continue to become more efficient, more productive as a company. And the third way, the third number one is capital, capital deployment and capital efficiency. We’re very focused on the capital we’ve deployed. Getting full value for Carbonite, getting full value for Liaison, Documentum wasn’t that long ago. And the Documentum puts us right in the middle of modern work for a lot of companies. And then there’s new capital deployment. On a new capital deployment, which was I think part of the basis of your question is we’re going to remain a value buyer. We have the management and leadership bandwidth. We have a net debt ratio of 1.6 approaching sort of recent lows, if you will. And I’m very happy with the markets we’re in today. So I’m not looking to create a new market Richard, but rather kind of gaining share in what we have.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Okay. And just one last one related acquisitions, is your comfort level on leverage ratio? I think it was in the mid-3s if I don’t like, as I recall, but I’m not sure what it is today. Is it still around there?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Our net leverage ratio is 1.6 today. And as we’ve noted, we’ve chronicled historically that would be comfortable. Ideally we’re at three, but we’ll go above three if we need to and then rapidly decrease that. And I’ll point again to Carbonite as well as Documentum where we rapidly delevered like we – three is where it’s just, I think of it simply that if the world goes really bad like they’re drop more than three years. That’s why – that’s what I thought of a 3x ratio relatively conservative ratio. Our covenants allow us to go higher than that, but we like operating around three, we’re well below it. And if we need to go above three, we won’t be bashful or the right asset. But it will come with a rapid deleverage plan. And as we’ve demonstrated, we can do it and have done it with Carbonite and Documentum.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Okay. That was great. Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Treiber of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Thanks very much, and good afternoon. Just want to hone into one product area in particular, which is e-signature, it seems like that is probably one of the products would be some strong adoption in this environment. How do you see within the large enterprise deals like is it bundled in there or can you sell it as an incremental product offering? And reason I bring it up with some of your competitors are doing quite well selling signatures, digital signatures, should we expect similar growth, are you seeing similar growth with your own product there?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Yes. Paul, thank you for the question. We’re excited about it and we sell it independently. We bought the source code to a company about a year ago. And we created a product about a year and a half ago, created a product and a service. And it’s now fully integrated to content services and it’s now a standalone product. So we’re – we expected it is contributing, and we’re fully able to sell it as an independent module. And it is an important part of modern work, part of workflow, part of collaboration, project management, and ultimately signatures. I’ll highlight one customer fully live. We’re doing tens of thousands of signatures a month, the government of Ontario and who are fully live on our e-signature product.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

And you initially said the e-signatures, but with the market e-signature at least, it seems like a lot of the growth is coming from SMB. And it seems like there’s other product categories. You look at like file sharing or whatnot, where the growth has been driven by SMBs with the launch of your 21.4 products in the multitenant side into the cloud. Does that potentially open you up – open up in terms of to going direct in terms of addressing the SMB market?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

We still have – with all our progress, we still have much to learn. We bring e-signature to the enterprise. We’re – we haven’t brought e-signature to SMB. So our e-signature success is through our enterprise Salesforce. And this is one of the reasons we really love Carbonite, because we see a lot of these solutions that are built to scale up into the enterprise and scale laterally into SMB. And this part of our great long-term growth prospect is to be able to get that multi-channel way to market really humming. So we now have our product like e-signature for the enterprise, but we haven’t brought it into the SMB world yet. So I mean I appreciate your comment, but it just highlights why we brought on Carbonite and the opportunity for many of our key solutions. And it’s one of the things that as part of our strategic direction is able to bring product simultaneously to the enterprise and SMB. We have a lot of learning to do there and lots of opportunity.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I will now hand the call back over to Mr. Barrenechea for closing remarks.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

All right. Well, thank you very much. We’re obviously very excited about Q2 and playing offense and our improved outlook for fiscal 2021. I hope you’ll – well, we hope to see everyone at our virtual Investor Day on March 11. Please register on our website or contact Investor Relations. And the team is very excited to spend time with you to talk to provide updates on our strategic progress and our future direction. Thank you for joining us today.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.