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Open Text Corporation (OTEX)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, May 4, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the OpenText Corporation’s Third Quarter Fiscal 2022 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. I would like to turn the conference over to Harry Blount, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Harry Blount

Management

Thank you operator. Good afternoon everyone and welcome to OpenText’s third quarter 2022 earnings call. With me on the call today are OpenText’s Chief Executive Officer and Chief Technology Officer, Mark J. Barrenechea; and our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Madhu Ranganathan. Please note that similarly to last quarter, our prepared remarks have been shortened to allow more time for the question-and-answer session. Today’s call is being webcast live and recorded with a replay available shortly thereafter on the OpenText Investor Relations website. Earlier today, we posted our quarterly shareholder letter, along with our press release and investor presentation. These materials will supplement our prepared remarks and can be accessed on the OpenText Investor Relations website, investors.opentext.com. I am pleased to inform you that OpenText management will be participating at several upcoming conference including CIBC Technology and Innovation Conference on May 25th in Toronto, Jefferies Software Conference on June 1st in San Francisco, Bernstein’s Annual Strategic Decisions Conference on June 3rd in New York, and Baird’s Global Consumer Technology and Services Conference on June 6th also in New York. And now onto our safe harbor statement. Please note that during the course of this conference call, we may make statements relating to the future performance of OpenText that contain forward-looking information. While these forward-looking statements represent our current judgment, actual results could differ materially from a conclusion, forecast, or projection in the forward-looking statements made today. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in drawing any such statement. Additional information about the material factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from a conclusion, forecast, or projection in the forward-looking information, as well as risk factors that may project future performance, results of OpenText are contained in OpenText’s recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q, as well as in our press release that was distributed earlier this afternoon, which may be found on our website. We undertake no obligation to update these forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. In addition, our conference call may include discussions of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures may be found within our public filings and other materials, which are available on our website. And with that, I am very pleased to hand the call over to Mark.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Thank you, Harry, and welcome everyone. Madhu and I are on the road spending time with employees and customers and we’re pleased to be hosting today’s call together here in New York City. We had a strong Q3 with total revenues of $882 million or $899 million in constant currency, adjusted EBITDA of $284 million and free cash flow of $306 million. We grew total revenues 5.9% year-over-year and 8% in constant currency led by the strength in our cloud bookings and well above our results from a year ago, driven by demand in our content, business network, security and data protection clouds. Our total cloud revenues grew 13% year-over-year to 14.3% in constant current and topped $400 million of revenue in the quarter for the first time. These strong results come at a time of increasing challenges from the continuing impact of COVID-19 and supply chain constraints and the highest level of inflation that we’ve seen in decades, the currency decline such as the Euro, the Yen decreasing double-digit compared to the U.S. dollar and now Russia’s war in Ukraine. All these challenges reinforced our determination to remain vigilant to protect the health and wellbeing of our teammates, remaining agile to meet our customers and partners needs. At OpenText, we have dedicated ourselves to cloud-based innovations that power and protect information centered on information elevate themselves above these challenges and thrive in a world of hybrid work, digital transactions and the need for security information protection. Information management and the digitalization of business powers the economic inputs and outputs of the world’s GDP. Information management is as essential as ERP and CRM in helping customers differentiate and scale, build digital fabrics, connecting all their stakeholders and doing more with less. OpenText is the market leader in information management and…

Madhu Ranganathan

CFO

Thank you, Mark. And thank you all for joining us today. All references I will be making are in millions of USD and compared to the same period in the prior fiscal year and are on a reported basis unless stated otherwise. Our strong results in the quarter and year-to-date March 2022, reflect our outstanding execution through these challenging times, while growing a position as a trusted partner in information management. Q3 results reflect our resilience as we achieve strong results across all our financial metrics. So let me expand on Q3 fiscal 2022 results. Please also refer to the shareholder letter, our investor presentation, press release and Form 10-Q that we filed today. On revenues, we are very pleased with our record Q3 revenue, record annual recurring revenue and record cloud revenue. We grew total revenues 5.9% in a reported basis and 8% in a constant currency basis. Cloud revenue saw its fifth consecutive quarter of organic growth while total revenue in the cloud was 13% in reported currency and 14.3% on a constant currency basis. The currency volatility remains high, foreign exchange impact to Q3 revenues was $17.2 million, impacting customer support and cloud revenues the highest. We posted another quarter of double-digit growth in enterprise cloud bookings and on a year-to-date basis. As a reminder, these bookings will be taken to revenue over the life of the contract. So we are growing a foundation of recurring cloud revenue to be recognized over multiple years. The size of $1 million plus deals was significantly larger on average in Q3 than the same time last year. This is a trend in both cloud and license that we believe reflects the growing strategic importance of information management within organizations as a digitized and automate processes. We also saw strong renewal…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Our first question comes from Stephanie Price of CIBC. Please go ahead.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Good afternoon. I was hoping you could talk a bit about what percentage of the installed base is now in the cloud and any metrics you have around the cross sell among this customer base.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Sure thing. Thanks for the question, Stephanie. Look, the vast majority of new customers are all coming into Cloud Editions and into the cloud. So it’s clear that the new are vastly coming into the cloud. We have some customers who go off cloud for security reasons. But the vast majority are – new customers are in the cloud. In terms of the installed base that have moved proactively, it’s about a third. And we’re going to continue, of course, in the coming quarters in year or two years to help our customers move in advance of the kind of end of life cycle of the technology. But I can tell you we expect at the end of the day to move all of our customers from Release 16 to Cloud Editions and migrate them either into our private cloud managed services or into our public cloud capabilities as they approach the end of the life cycle for Release 16. And the best benchmark for that is just look at our renewals rate, right? We’re operating near mid-90s, so the destination where that train that northbound train ends, it ends at close to that 92% over time. So about a third migrated, vast majority new coming into the cloud and we will keep helping customers before the end of the life cycle. Now once we get customers into the cloud, it just removes the friction to cross sell for us. Things are more pre-integrated, we have the resources to get to module two, three and four. So it just removes the friction. I don’t have a metric for you to say what percents on how many modules or what percent is a suite adoption. I’ll keep thinking – let me think about that, Stephanie, for the future. But the healthcare data company, I mentioned, they added a workload from their off cloud. They moved their capture into the cloud and – but the volume is just phenomena 25 million pages a month. Is that helpful, Stephanie?

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

It is. That’s great color. Thank you. I also wanted touch on the investments that you’re making in the cloud. Both you and Madhu mentioned them, can you expand a bit on what you’re doing and I assume it’s already included in the financial model as well.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes. So all the investments we’re speaking about are all in the models we’re talking about financially. So they’re not outside the models. They’re all factored into the models that Madhu has presented. We have kind of the functional features we’re doing in each of the clouds. But there’s also a large investment that we’re making around data zones, compliance, security. These needs have really elevated over the last few months to really bring cloud technologies. My description is to bring it to bank level sort of security and compliance could be Baffin in Europe, Protected B, FedRAMP, HSM inside of banking, of course, SOC 1, SOC 2, HIPAA, all these type of security engine compliance. We’ve decided that we’re going to invest in those. And we’re going to be only a few companies can do this on global scale. It could be less than a dozen companies globally, who could deliver at this level of compliance and security does one place we’re making investments and going to differentiate. And the other is our go-to-market investing in partners and our sales force to accelerate our cloud growth. That’s where some of the investments are coming and they’re all factored into our projections.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead

Great. Thanks so much for the color.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Thanos Moschopoulos of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Sorry. I apologize, it’s rather on mute. Hey Mark. Can you expand on the macro backdrop? So you said it was resilience, but just to clarify at this stage, signs of a slowdown, I mean, European business, are you seeing anything or is it still strong demand environment from your perspective.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

It’s still resilient for us and every company is different. We made the decision three years ago to exit Russia. And so we evacuated Russia three years ago. We also evacuated Ukraine three years ago. And I mean, our with Democracy and Liberty in Ukraine, but we left from a business perspective Russia, Ukraine three years ago. So we don’t have the exposure there. The demand remains resilient. There is one thing out of our control, which is foreign exchange. A year ago, the euro was $1.20, I think today closed at $1.05. And the upside of that is it comes back, right, over time. But the demand remains resilient. We don’t have the exposure in Eastern Europe and in Russia, and we’re going to help those companies and a handful of industries where we have a lot of strength that will actually add to our demand here in the medium-term. For example, we’re strong in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, our doc region, very deep in manufacturing, as well as the Bundesheer is a very large infrastructure for us. We’re deep in manufacturing and industrials and aerospace in France. And we have a great team in install base in the Middle East in energy, oil and gas. So as energy infrastructures move as investments going to manufacturing auto, we’re actually seeing an uptick in our demand. But we certainly have had the euro challenge like other companies have had. But it’s not about the demand, it’s just the currency for us in Europe.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And as far as M&A your stock is trading at a depressed multiple. So how does that influence your thinking on acquisitions and the multiples that you can pay? Are your hurdle rates sort of driven by an absolute basis? Or are they directly might be influenced by your share price and how does that influence you’re thinking on buybacks as well?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes, I go two things on buybacks. As I noticed on the script, we purchased and retired 1 million shares in the quarter and will continue to be opportunistic in the market. And a second on M&A, valuations are coming down, our pipeline is up and we see more companies in our traditional playbook of growth at a reasonable price. And we see more cloud companies in that growth at a reasonable price. And when we look at an acquisition, we really look at it’s got to be you the right company at the right price, but it’s got to generate the cash returns. And it’s got to be a platform for future organic growth. So, whack obviously is part of a formula and I wouldn’t kind of compare it to what we’re trading at. It’s got to be the right company, right price, deliver the cash returns that we expect and then be the right asset to drive future organic growth in the cloud.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Great. I’ll pass along. Thanks, Mark.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes. Thank you, Thanos.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Raimo Lenschow of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Great. Thank you. This is Jeremy on for Raimo. I just wanted to touch on Zix. So given it’s the first quarter where Zix is contributing, can you speak a bit to how the integration is coming together there? And maybe what you’re seeing in terms of cross-selling and up-selling the product some of the existing security and protection cloud customers. Thank you.

Madhu Ranganathan

CFO

Yes, Jeremy it’s Madhu here. I’ll take the first part and hand over Mark on the cross-sell. The integration is going well. As a reminder, we closed just with a week left in 2021, and we’ve given ourselves about a year and in that regard, integration is going well, very systematic. It’s a great set of people and of course, products, market great leadership. And I would say that leadership is very well integrated into broader OpenText. As I mentioned in the call as the integration comes to closure, we definitely expect to see a sort of accretion in gross margin, accretion in working capital. Those are the areas we are working on right now to bring them over to our operating model. Could we do it earlier than 12 months? Perhaps we can, but we’re being very systematic about it.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes. Thank you, Madhu. On the product integration and leverage, let me describe it this way. First of all, we’re delighted. Just a – this is May, time flies, right? We’re in our second quarter of owning Zix. The people are amazing. Technology, it’s amazing. And the MSP network is everything we expect it to be in our diligence. So we’re just delighted. First is, we’re going strong on the Microsoft NCE cycle or new commerce experience, NCE cycle that Microsoft is driving. So there’s an event in the industry, Microsoft NCE, we’re a top five player worldwide for Microsoft in the NCE program. So there’s just that opportunity within Zix. Now, we’ve been able to take that opportunity and move it to Webroot MSPs and take that opportunity, move it to Carbonite MSPs as well. So that’s an opportunity lane for us as well. Second is taking our Zix secure cloud, which means secure email, IP protection bit defender, and move that into the Webroot MSPs and the Carbonite MSPs, but more interestingly, the Webroot MSPs. So we’ve completed that first level integration of Webroot and Carbonite MSPs can come to our portal and see the product. And then we have another opportunity to bring that secure – Zix secure cloud into basically our experience cloud where we’ve integrated EasyLink and other on-demand messaging platforms and bring them into healthcare financial services for on-demand messaging. So, we have really about four plays, very clear plays. When in the Microsoft and CE play, bring the NCE play back to Carbonite and Webroot secondly, bring secure cloud into Carbonite Webroot, three, and bring Zix secure cloud into our experience cloud think EasyLink inside a healthcare and financial services. So, Jeremy, those are the basic four plays very well defined. Our first four or five months, we’ve been able to get them in place and now start to execute to them.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead

Great. Thank you very helpful.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Tse of National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

James Burns

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

Yes. Thank you. It’s James Burns sitting in for Richard tonight. You had mentioned that you’ll be, you’ll continue to go after competitive replacements against major competitors, such as IBM, for example. Did you gain any share this quarter and if so, has IBM or any of the other competitors responded in any way?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes, no, this is a strong playbook for us right now. And with our cloud strengths and private cloud, our ability, our new APIs and our growing capabilities as public SaaS we can do this and FileNet, Hyland, Kofax, . So it’s just a clear opportunity for us and you know, Kofax things recently been announced their result, which will create a bit more electrons in the install base. So look, you leverage what’s in front of you, and that’s, what’s in front of us, so we’re going leverage. We keep announcing wins, and we’re going to go after the top customers who are looking to make investments for the next five to 10 years in the cloud, and those competitors can’t fulfill that. A little different on data and SPS Commerce on the SPS Commerce side, we’ve recently introduced new mid-market capabilities for our trading partners, more self-service, ease of registration, ability to connect trading partners without the need for professional services. So, we see an opportunity to bring our fantastic enterprise business network into the mid-market. And we’ve learned a lot about the mid-market over the last couple of years from Carbonite through Zix. And our next couple of releases are very targeted on the data protection as well as the resell markets and RMMs and MSPs against data. So, I like this playbook for us. We know what features we need to build. We know what customers need to call. And we got a global scale and can differentiate. So, we’re going to continue to run this play, James.

James Burns

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead

That’s great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Treiber of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Thanks so much. I was just hoping, could you elaborate on your outlook for licensed revenue? You mentioned it’s due to a mix shift that you’re taking down the outlook slightly there. Is that because you’re seeing customers instead of purchasing license are now purchasing cloud products or are the two trends somewhat unrelated?

Madhu Ranganathan

CFO

Paul, I’ll take a piece of this and then turn it over to Mark. One of the main reasons minute as I shared the metrics of demand for license, it does remain strong. But Q4 historically has been our strongest license quarter and consistent with everything we’ve been talking about in terms of cloud acceleration and such. We just wanted to do a rebalance on how the year is going to look in terms of license and hence the change in the yearly outlook. We are definitely seeing, as Mark said, more purchases, new workloads, the acceleration into the cloud. But I would say the first part is clearly the rebalance. And as we are coming up on Q4 and wrapping up the year, we just wanted to put it within the parameters of where we believe license would be for this year. And again, consistent with the trends we’ve been talking to in the last couple years.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes, I, let me thank you Madhu, right on. And Paul me just add to that. There’s no doubt that we’re seeing the vast majority of our new customers come in on the cloud and that’s exactly the high value segment we want to be in and winning business there. I do think as I look out and I’ll just stay at the annual basis for a moment, as I look out on the coming years, we believe we’re going to hold licenses relatively constant. And our slight change from I think our total growth strategy, Slide 7 in the investor deck where we turned down just a notch of the outlook for license. We’re just doing the Q4 math. That’s all it is. And because it’s Q4 and we wanted to kind of align to the industry models. We’re executing to where we believe it is relatively constant but it’s just really Q4 math and aligning to the expectations on the annual basis, but going forward it should be relatively constant.

Madhu Ranganathan

CFO

And the last thing I just add that Paul is, as you can see with consistently sharing more color on our growing cloud bookings, which will absolutely come back to you all more in the next couple years. But when you actually look at acquisition, the cloud we wanted to make sure there was a balance between the two.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

And let me just lastly and not to spend too much time on it. I we’ll spend as much time as you like Paul. I don’t need to spend too much of time on it, but by constant, cloud’s going to keep growing much faster. License will be on an absolute, relatively absolute a quantum and just think about it, compliance more seats halfway through projects. And that’s the type of business that we see, that gives us the confidence to say in the coming years, we look at license being relatively confident.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes. I mean, cloud bookings would be great. A great disclosure when you’re ready to give it because for investors that complete that puzzle. Just shifting gears on the margin side, when you look at margins for the quarter, they’re stronger than quarterly factors. And then, the outlook calls for margins still to be down on a year-over-year basis for Q4, is that similar math as, you showed a back into the full year outlook there, the bigger picture, how should we think about, margins going forward, just in light of all the moving parts you have, Zix synergies and integration, but then there’s also the wage environment and cost inflation.

Madhu Ranganathan

CFO

Yes. Paul I’ll take that. So I’m going work backwards from, as we shared are medium term aspiration, they remain unchanged that is 38% to 40%. And this year we’ve talked about 35.5% to 36.5%. And when you look at the nine months, of course, we are closer to the 36. We are doing well on margins. They are reasonably predictable. But again, if you can do better in quarter, that’s what you see in Q3. We came out better than expected. I would also point out that gross margin has gone up 110 basis points year-over-year in the quarter, in the past, I’ve talked about enterprise cloud gross margin that we have work to do in terms of efficiency. You see some of that come into play. And as you rightly pointed out, as Zix gets integrated more volume on sort of the SaaS cloud of Carbonite that would et cetera. It’ll certainly provide more accretion to the cloud gross margin. And it will sort of, line up with the 38% to 40% we talked about, you also mentioned wages. Look, I think everyone is seeing it. We’ve done well in terms of our attrition. And we have taken care for our employees in terms of, I would say total rewards, cash equity, et cetera. You will see that in our disclosures. We are not saying it’s an item that we are not worried about, but we stand in good stead with respect to incorporating that into our models.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you. I’ll pass the line.

Madhu Ranganathan

CFO

And I think Mark’s had comments?

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes. Well, I just you made a comment to complete the puzzle and I just want to tell you yes, we agree. And so one of the things you’ll see for us on our next quarter call, when we kick off fiscal 2023 we’ll officially add a booking metric. And so you will be able to complete that puzzle going forward. So Madhu and I are committed to adding a formal view into bookings starting next quarter.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead

That would be fantastic. Looking forward to it.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

Yes. And I have to tell you slowly .

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to hand the call back over Mr. Barrenechea for any closing remarks.

Mark J. Barrenechea

Chief Technology Officer

All right. Well thank you everyone. Thanks for joining today. And we have a big quarter of engagement and outreach as Harry outlined. So we look forward to being with you this quarter, we hope you’ll join us for OpenText World virtually or live. We’ll be taking over the Allianz Stadium in Munich, Germany for OpenText World and thank you for your continued support and I’ll end my prepared remarks, may the one that brings peace, bring peace to all and quickly. So thank you for joining today’s call.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.