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Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 2, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the OpenText Corporation First Quarter Fiscal 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] The conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would like to turn the conference over to Harry Blount, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Harry Blount

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to OpenText first quarter fiscal 2024 earnings call. With me on the call today are OpenText Chief Executive Officer and Chief Technology Officer, Mark J. Barrenechea; our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Madhu Ranganathan; and also joining us is Paul Duggan, Executive Vice President and Chief Customer Officer. Today's call is being webcast live and recorded, with a replay available shortly thereafter on the OpenText Investor Relations website. Earlier today, we posted our press release and investor presentation online. These materials will supplement our prepared remarks and can be accessed on the OpenText Investor Relations website, investors.opentext.com. I'm pleased to inform you that OpenText management will be participating at the following upcoming conferences: RBC Capital Markets Global Technology, Internet, Media, and Telecom Conference on November 14 in New York; Needham's Virtual SaaS Conference on November 16; TD Securities Technology Conference on November 21 in Toronto; Bank of America Securities Leveraged Finance Conference on November 28 in Boca Raton; Wells Fargo Technology, Media, and Telecom Summit on November 29 in Rancho Palos Verdes; UBS Global Technology Conference on November 30 in Scottsdale; Scotiabank's Global Tech Conference on December 5 in San Francisco, Nasdaq's Investor Conference on December 5 in London; and Barclays Global Technology, Media, and Telecom conference on December 7 in San Francisco. And now onto our Safe harbor. Please note that during the course of this conference call, we may make statements relating to the future performance of OpenText that contain forward-looking information. While these forward-looking statements represent our current judgment, actual results could differ materially from a conclusion, forecast, or projection in the forward-looking statements made today. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in drawing any such statement. Additional information about these material factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from a conclusion, forecast, or projection in the forward-looking information, as well as risk factors that may project future performance results of OpenText are contained in OpenText's recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q, as well as in our press release that was distributed earlier this afternoon, which may be found on our website. We undertake no obligation to update these forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. In addition, our conference call may include discussions of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures may be found within our public filings and other materials which are available on our website. And with that, it's my pleasure to hand the call over to Mark.

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Harry, thank you. Thank you for joining us today. It's an exciting start to our new fiscal year 2024. We had record Q1 revenues of $1.43 billion, double-digit cloud revenue growth, and adjusted EBITDA of 34.7%. It was another quarter of cloud organic growth, ARR organic growth, and strong renewal rates in the mid-90s. Customers showed tremendous trust and confidence in OpenText during the quarter. Bombardier chose OpenText for their legal tech AI platform. CNP chose OpenText for large contract AI analysis. And Infosys chose OpenText for developer testing, automation, and generation. Great information management is a prerequisite for great AI, and we intend to compete in and win both information management automation and AI. The OpenText business is best analyzed and measured on annual performance. We manage the business to longer cycles than 90 days. Thus, our quarters do vary. Based on our strong Q1, our strong product cycle, and forward visibility, we have confidence in our F '24 constant currency targets: $5.85 billion to $5.95 billion in revenues; 36% to 38% adjusted EBITDA; $800 million to $900 million in free cash flows, including total revenue organic growth, 15% plus enterprise cloud bookings growth; and returning Micro Focus to organic growth. We are shifting from growth primarily driven by M&A to growth driven by product innovation and go-to-market execution. You can see our new Total Growth model with our F '26 aspirations on Slide 21 of our Investor Relations deck. It includes 15% plus enterprise cloud bookings growth, 7% to 9% cloud revenue growth, 2% to 4% ARR growth, plus any future M&A and margin expansion, plus dividends and buybacks. And when all combined, yields return to shareholders. We are focused on the fundamentals that drive shareholder value. Slide 13 of our Investor Deck highlights our new shareholder value…

Paul Duggan

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Great. Thank you, Mark. It's a privilege to be with all of you today to talk about our renewals business and the work we're doing to unlock value for our customers and shareholders. Before I do, let me tell you about my team, the Customer Success organization. We're responsible for renewals of cloud and off-cloud subscriptions, professional services and cloud delivery, and technical support. We brought these functions together following the Micro Focus acquisition and took on an enhanced mission called OpenText L.O.V.E., Land together, Operate, Value, Expand. OpenText L.O.V.E. means focusing on customer outcomes. It's all about turning promises made into promises delivered. When it comes to renewals, we believe if you deliver on those promises, customers succeed. And when they succeed, they stay with you, and those relationships will grow over time. Today, I'll speak to 3 areas: the strength of our renewals; an update on Micro Focus; and a few of the goals ahead for our team. First, OpenText has a strong record of maintaining exceptional and predictable renewal performance. Despite historic and disruptive world events, economic uncertainties, and unprecedented tragedies of the last decade, our renewal rates are unwavering. Q1 was no exception, finishing at 94% for cloud and off-cloud, excluding Micro Focus. Of course, renewal rates directly correlate to the value of products and services to our customers, but it's also a measure of operational excellence. From our renewal systems, processes and controls, to pricing and programs, to the automation simplifying the transactional elements, collectively, these also create a lifting force on renewal rates and help us protect and grow ARR over time. It's not just renewal rates either. All of our primary indicators are trending positively on time renewals, past due contracts, cancellations, pricing at the point of sale, and our annual price adjustment…

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · Scotiabank

Thank you, Mark. And thank you, Paul. We appreciate all of you joining us today. So let me summarize the key points for today. Regarding Micro Focus, we expect to return Micro Focus to organic growth this fiscal year driven by successful integration. And in particular today you all received an excellent overview on renewals from Paul. In addition, we are delighted to share that we expect Micro Focus to be on our target operating model of 36% to 38% adjusted EBITDA this fiscal year as well. In Q1, OpenText executed extremely well in a volatile world with record Q1 revenues and year-over-year growth. Turning to our outlook. Our outlook fully reflects the performance we expect, bringing together 2 businesses with different seasonality trends and sales cycles. With Q1 actuals and Q2 quarterly factors, we remain on target for our internal plan. We expect a stronger second half and a seasonally strong Q4 as we end our fiscal year, including a return to organic growth for Micro Focus. These are important factors for our quarterization, and we encourage the analysts to better balance your quarterly models. We remain fully on track to meet our fiscal '24 targets and fiscal '26 aspirations. You are hearing today that we're shifting from growth primarily driven by M&A to growth driven by product innovation and go-to-market execution. This is our new Total Growth model with our fiscal '26 aspirations led by cloud and ARR. My final summary point. We remain highly committed to shareholder value, and today we're sharing with you our new shareholder value approach through 6 fundamentals that Mark outlined earlier. So moving to our Q1 results, please refer to the investor presentation as posted on our IR website. Starting on Page 24 of the presentation for the slide titled Q1 Fiscal…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Richard Tse with National Bank Financial.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Can I ask Paul a question here?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Richard, go right ahead.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Okay. Paul, so from your vantage point, you've obviously been in the role and been successful at. What do you think have been the biggest, I guess, most meaningful driver to increasing Micro Focus's renewal rate here?

Paul Duggan

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Richard, look, I think it comes down to 3 things. First, we moved fast to get Micro Focus on our OpenText practices for renewals, as I discussed in my prepared remarks. Second, that also meant moving quickly to integrate the teams doing the work, getting renewals doing renewals and sales doing sales. And we believe that when those lines are not clear, renewal rates tend to underperform. And I'd say, third, as I speak to customers, I think that they also see our product roadmap and the other things we've unveiled in terms of our AI path, and they recognize that information management is becoming really a gating factor to fully embracing those step functions. So I think all of those play a significant role in the decision to renew. And we can already empirically see that in the rental rates in the improvement we made since February.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Okay, great. So Mark, your recent OpenText World was a great event. Certainly a ton of excitement around Aviator. What's been the follow through since the event last month and maybe give us a sense of the momentum from a product perspective?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Yes. As I said in my notes, the product cycle, customer engagement, clarity of our ability to provide practical value, all fed into our comments today on the call of increasing our bookings outlook for the quarter of 20% year-over-year growth. So we're definitely getting to the next phase of engagement to specific use cases. Product delivery in October, it's just November 2 or 3rd, so it's still very early November. We have the next wave of product delivery in January. We've engaged with customers. Got fantastic feedback from OpenText World, including 500 partners who are with us in Vegas, and we're in engagements now and we're going to win our first business, and you're going to see it reflected first in bookings and thus our 20% year-over-year growth expectations for the quarter.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Okay. And then just a last one for me. Certainly appreciate the shift here to an organic growth focus. But I imagine you still have a fairly robust M&A team evaluating transactions. And so I'm just curious, given the backdrop today, what's your sense of the acquisition landscape, perhaps from an evaluation standpoint? And if you came across a great opportunity, would you be in a position you think to move on something within the next 12 to 18 months?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Yes. I have the organization focused on a singular powerful concept, information management. It's a $200 billion market. We are transitioning from M&A driven growth to organic growth. And that starts with a rich product pipeline, unlocking value in the cloud, new value areas of SaaS and AI, and that is an enhanced motion for us, with expectations of 20% year-over-year growth in our enterprise bookings. So that's -- we're focused on a singular powerful concept. And we're going to remain focused on a singular powerful concept. For sure, if we find an opportunity, like we did recently with KineMatik, that can enhance a specific aspect of our product in the context of our strategy. We won't be bashful at all. But we're focused on this singular powerful concept in our expanded mission in information management and being driven primarily by organic growth.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Thanos Moschopoulos from BMO Capital Markets.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Also a question for Paul. Just to be clear, what remains on maximizing the renewals at Micro Focus. Is it primarily a question of going through the annual renewal cycle with all the customers or are there still some key steps that need to be done internally to really drive that organization to its potential?

Paul Duggan

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Yes, great question. It's a number of things. So you nailed the first one right. We actually got to get to each of the renewals. And like I had said in my remarks, we'll be mostly there by February. And look, I think the step functions for us from there are really going to be value driven, the product roadmap, the conversations we're having around that. I think those are the things that really go into decision points on renewal. The things that we see today are really, in large part, decisions that were made 12 months ago. So you got to go, rewind the clock back, and look at the product roadmap at that time, and look at what was out in front of the customers at that point. So there's going to be some runup here, I think, of you're going to get these initial improvements and benefits from all the systems and all the processes and those sorts of things. And then the longer end of this is going to be all about the intrinsic value of our offering. And you saw it with Documentum. Like I'd mentioned, we started in a very similar place, low 80s. The Documentum business is running ahead of our average renewal rate. So we're in the mid-90s, and we've been there for some time. So there's confidence in our playbook. We've done it before. There's a scale with this, but it comes down to these fundamentals.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Great. And then, Mark, just in terms of integrating the go-to-market, it sounds like you've done the heavy lifting for integrating your internal teams. But as far as integrating the Micro Focus and OpenText channels, where does that stand, how much opportunity remains on that front, and when do you expect to start capitalizing on some of that?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Yes. Certainly, our direct sales forces are fully integrated and fully aligned as we kicked off the fiscal year. We have in the investor deck, I think, it's Slide 18 where we talked about that segmentation, really important. We've really matured as we've scaled up to our current revenue levels, and looking well beyond the full coverage out into the Global 10,000. We now have very formal segmentation, and it's very well aligned to how Oracle thinks of the world, SAP, Microsoft, we're now in that category. Strategic accounts, enterprise accounts, corporate accounts, business accounts, and home accounts, very well-defined stratification, very well-defined go-to-market. We are one sales organization pursuing those market areas. Where we have more work to do is on the partner network that we launched in July. Partner networks, by definition, they're networks, so they got a lot of tentacles that go out over many, many years. We announced our landing zone for all our partners, including Micro Focus partners, of deal registration. We announced where they can engage on selling cloud. We began the AI discussion with them and where we want to be kicking off July 1 next year, takes systems, takes contracts, takes execution. But we announced where we want to land come July 1. So there's a little work to do there between here in November and June of next year. But on the direct enterprise side, we're fully aligned, we're united, we're 1 organization. We have 1 organization on the new partner network, and we defined our landing zone of where we want to be July 1, announced it to partners, we're working on all the details behind it. So that's the remaining work, Thanos.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Paul Treiber with RBC Capital Markets.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Your outlook to achieve 20% cloud bookings growth this quarter is great, and it seems like an inflection from Q1, which is only 8%. Is that the right way to characterize it? Is that new AI products are likely to drive an inflection and growth for OpenText? Or is that reading too much into it and there's maybe just quarterly dynamics between Q1 and Q2?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Paul, thanks for your first question to me, so I appreciate that. Just kidding. So no, our 20% bookings growth, we're going to see our first AI bookings in that number. So AI is going to contribute. As we talked about 2 quarters ago, we announced our direction. We have a strong history over a decade of innovation in AI. We presented for customers how to get practical value. We announced our roadmap. Now we've delivered wave 1. We're delivering wave 2. And it's being very well understood where we can start to unlock value across our Platform being built in, our Thrust services, Search, IoT and each of the Aviator Business Clouds. And it's interesting kind of a new language we're hearing from customers, and we're helping them get there, is that through our business clouds, we're helping them build these AI personas. So they have contract administrators today, but now they're going to build the AI persona of the contract administrator or mortgage advisor or technical support assistant. So now that 20% expected bookings growth year over year has AI contribution to it. And look, our Q1 is always seasonally light. And it's our Q1, I know it's the world's Q3, but it's our Q1. And so our customers are trained that way. But no, that number reflects our next set of wins in AI, and I can't wait to present them to you.

Paul Treiber

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

And you've had product releases and product cycles in the past. You sound quite enthusiastic about AI. Could you give us some context around how customer interest and the sales pipeline for your new AI products compare versus previous product releases?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Well, sure. I think, I'll say 2 things. The first is I don't have to spend a dollar of marketing on AI. The whole world's talking about it. So that's an interesting new dynamic, right? So customers are proactively engaging. The world is very focused on generative AI. We, of course, think the landing zone is general AI because there's a lot more to it than just the generative aspect. So Paul, dynamic #1 that's different is the world's talking about it and it's got a big awareness aspect built in. Second is we have very relevant product sitting on top of very large datasets that we've helped to build for our customers over the last year. And we believe this is the inflection point, the singular powerful concept that unlocks information management to its next level in the enterprise. There was inflection points for ERP and CRM of integrated e-business suites. This is an inflection point for information management to unlock the value of those datasets. So you've got natural demand being driven by market and breakthroughs in technology, the baby speaks. And #2, we have very relevant and very timely technology on top of our platform. And as I said at OpenText World, it is okay to speak this way. We were late in SaaS. We are not late in AI, and we're going to capture the opportunity here for the company.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Kevin Krishnaratne with Scotiabank.

Kevin Krishnaratne

Analyst · Scotiabank

Just a couple of clarifications. You said Micro Focus contributed $563 million in the quarter. Is that correct? And if so was that within your expectations or is it going better? And do we have a margin for Micro Focus in the quarter?

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · Scotiabank

Yes, Kevin, it's Madhu here. So yes, $563 million in revenue. And as we mentioned, the integration is going very well. We are ahead of our internal plan. And from a margin perspective, I would point you to the fact that being ahead of the plan, we are able to project that Micro Focus will be on our 36% to 38% this fiscal year, which is really the first full fiscal year since the transaction closed.

Kevin Krishnaratne

Analyst · Scotiabank

Okay. And then a second clarification here, just on the SMB dynamic. I think you'd mentioned a $10 million to $15 million year-over-year revenue headwind, is that correct? And just curious if you can dig into that a bit more and then remind us, if you can, on how big SMB is in your base.

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · Scotiabank

Yes, I'll comment and I'm sure Mark will chime in as well. So $10 million to $15 million revenue headwind is what we see in Q2. We pay attention to a couple of cycles, obviously the PC cycles, and of course, all things associated with Microsoft as it intersects with our SMB business. Now, having said that, I think Paul also mentioned in his notes, that we do have some products and innovation and new items to bring to market, and we factored those into account for the second half of the fiscal year. And overall, we remain on target for our fiscal '24 revenues, including the cloud revenue. Mark, anything to add?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · Scotiabank

Yes, sure. This is not an OpenText challenge. This is a market challenge. And we all read the same headlines about the challenges in SMB. And SMB is less than 10% of our business. It's a new area for us. We've only been in this area 2 to 3 years. We're never going to realize our full potential in information management if we can't get to that midmarket. And we're much more interested in the midmarket than the S, the small part of the market. So as Microsoft has recently said, it's the most important sector for them. And as they do well, we will do well. As PC shipments rebound, we will do better. We're also bringing new product into this area, like our service management, midmarket business network capabilities. So it's really not our challenge, it's the market's challenge right now. And we're so well positioned that as the market picks up, we're going to be a beneficiary of it, but we wanted to call it out just to be clear on our cloud momentum and help you model the business.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Stephanie Price with CIBC.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC

I just want to circle back on the focus on achieving organic growth at Micro Focus in fiscal '24. Just curious if you can share what organic growth at Micro Focus was this quarter and how you expect to trend over the fiscal year. As you work towards organic growth at Micro, obviously, maintenance is going to be the key driver. But also curious if there's anything else we should be thinking about there as we think about organic growth in business by the end of fiscal '24.

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · CIBC

Yes, Stephanie, it's Madhu here. So I'll take the first thought, how to think about Micro Focus organic growth in the quarter. It's going to be a hard year-over-year compare. As we said in the last couple calls, our starting point is $2.3 billion of revenue. You take IFRS to GAAP, you take the Digital Safe divestiture, and we did decide to shed some contracts and not carry them forward. And $2.3 billion is really our baseline. And at $563 million, we've done well. It is our first quarter of this fiscal year, and we do expect to grow organically in the entire year. And everything you heard so far on the Micro Focus integration, the customers, the partners, all of that is going to play a role for us to exceed the $2.3 billion number.

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · CIBC

And Stephanie, let me jump in as well. We're doing exactly what we said we would do, and we're going to show you Micro Focus every quarter for this fiscal year, though we don't have to through disclosure, but we're going to. You take $2.3 billion divided by 4, that's $575 million. Our first quarter, seasonally a light quarter for us in Q1, we delivered $563 million, and you'll see that momentum build, and it's really that simple. We are very confident we're returning Micro Focus to organic growth. We're off to a great start. And as Paul talked about the renewals, our strong product cycle with private cloud, new SaaS offerings, and SMAX, Fortify on-demand, NetIQ, UCMDB, SaaS, a first set of AI on top of Micro Focus, which they would've never been able to get to if not part of OpenText. So we're doing exactly what we said we'd do. We're going to show you every quarter along the way. And we're off to a great start at $563 million.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.

Jeremy Horowitz

Analyst · Barclays

This is Jeremy, on for Raimo. Just wanted to follow up on the SMB headwind that you called out. So is it having maybe an outsized impact on any of the business lines, like with security having Zix and Carbonite, which is more SMB focused, is it showing up more there? Or really anything you can call out there would be helpful.

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · Barclays

Jeremy, I would call it a headwind, maybe a light breeze. And we provided the additional color to help you model. Really simple, right? So there's no product to point to across the portfolio. Again, it's not us, it's the segment. PC shipments are clearly down, so there's less to sell into. Microsoft had delayed certain programs. They've now recently declared this is the most important segment, so it's going to build momentum. So no, nothing specific to point to. I would not call it a headwind, maybe a light breeze. And it's the segment, it's not us, it's not something specific. And we're excited about being a beneficiary as PC shipments go up, as Microsoft builds their amazing machine here.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Adhir Kadve with Eight Capital.

Adhir Kadve

Analyst · Eight Capital

Maybe outside of the AI showing up in bookings and driving that 20% growth, is there any other particular areas across the 6 markets that you've defined, Mark, that are really driving that confidence in the 20%?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · Eight Capital

SaaS. So SaaS and AI. Titanium was focused on many things, but top of the stack was SaaS applications, having core content, core signature, core capture, core archive, starting to get into the machine, SaaS-based service management, which we call SMAX, SaaS-based security through NetIQ, SaaS-based asset management with the Universal Configuration Management Database or UCMDB, so getting additional products in there as well, midmarket SaaS and business network. So here I'd say it's 2 things: it's Titanium, deliver the product, start to get in the market, build demand, win business, and it's the second value unlocker of AI starting to get its first win.

Adhir Kadve

Analyst · Eight Capital

And then just on AI, you guys introduced a fairly robust product roadmap as well as products that are in market right now. Mark, any of those that are really driving excitement or really driving undue excitement from your clients that you could speak to?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · Eight Capital

Oh, I have to pick a child which one I like. No, I think it's going to follow where the datasets are and the value that we can unlock. I'll start right in our heritage in content management and building these Aviator personas next to the human persona for the claims manager, the claims adjuster, the contract author. So content certainly is up there. I'd also say in ITOM. We have a very large installed base around service management and the ability to create that AI Aviator persona around the technical support assistant. So content, ITOM, I would probably shout out are going to lead the way early. Now with that said, the general applicability of Search, very interesting for us and a lot of workloads out there for machine-generated and device-generated content via IoT. But I'd look to content and ITOM here in the early days.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Steve Enders with Citi.

George Michael Kurosawa

Analyst · Citi

This is George on for Steve. I want to talk about the AI products at the Aviator set of products. You guys were fairly quick out to market with them, which I think is a testament to that 90-day release cycle. But maybe you could just talk about the decision to monetize these when maybe some of your customers are in an experimental phase and I guess how are we thinking about the time line to revenue contributions?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · Citi

As I said last quarter, until we have revenue signals, we're not going to change our outlooks, if you will, until today. And I look at Q2 and we've gone through this whole cycle of the baby speaks through generative AI in the consumer world, the rise of algorithms, the ability to do that in the consumer world, we've worked with our partners, Google and others, to ensure they can be private environments. We have our own technology that we've advanced to do certain aspects of the AI preparatory work for customers, embeddings, vectorization. We've worked through a lot of the technology hurdles to have pluggable language models because they're going to get very specific. And we've now with 23.4 have wave 1 of very practical capabilities, 24.1 brings the rest of the business clouds to very practical capabilities. And we're demonstrating how within content management, business network, in the ITOM space, in the developer space, where you can apply these Aviator personas to sit next to the human to add significant value. So this is the next step, and we're seeing the first demand signals and thus calling it out that we expect to see 20% bookings growth year over year.

George Michael Kurosawa

Analyst · Citi

Got it. Yes. That's a really encouraging number. Maybe just to double click on that 20%, loud and clear that AI and SaaS are the top 2 drivers. Is there any contribution from Micro Focus adoption of private cloud in there, or is that maybe a little farther down that line?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · Citi

There'll be some in there, sure.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Daniel Chan with TD Cowen.

Daniel Chan

Analyst · TD Cowen

Hey, Mark, earlier you were mentioning that your customers were trained on your fiscal year-end. Micro Focus's fiscal-year end is in October. I know you've been trying to move some of those customers onto your time line, but should we still expect a large number of their customers to still be on the Micro Focus fiscal year-end?

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · TD Cowen

Look, Dan, I think it's going to take a year or 2 to get the full quarterization from the Micro Focus installed base. And thus Madhu's comments on paying attention to the quarterization. And we spent a lot of time -- Madhu and team spent a lot of time on the quarterly factors for Q2 and just a clear shout out to balanced models in the second half of the year. So look, we're making progress. We're going to always default to the customer and what the customer wants to do. But we're going to get to the OpenText cycles. It'll take a year or 2, but we'll get there.

Daniel Chan

Analyst · TD Cowen

And then appreciate the color on the SMB impact from the macro. Just wondering if there's any update on the enterprise side of things. Last quarter you said things were still looking good. Just wonder if there are any updates on the enterprise customers.

Madhu Ranganathan

Analyst · TD Cowen

Yes, from the enterprise customers, Dan, thank you again for the question, and I assume you're referring to the cloud side. Things are looking strong, and certainly that's why we called out SMB. Going back to all that Mark said, in addition to the AI, the core solutions that we continue to build upon and innovate, there continues to be strong demand for those, all business clouds included, right? So on the enterprise side, cloud, non-SMB continues to be strong.

Operator

Operator

I will now hand the call back over to Mr. Barrenechea for closing remarks.

Mark Barrenechea

Analyst · National Bank Financial

Very good. Madhu, Paul, thank you. And thank you, everyone, for joining today. Look, we're very excited to engage with you and tell you more of our story and on our new model for growth. And we're going to be participating at many upcoming conferences, as Harry noted: the RBC Conference, November 14, New York City; the Needham SaaS Conference virtually on November 16; TD Securities Conference, November 21 in Toronto, which I'll personally be at; the Wells Fargo Technology Summit, the 29th in Rancho Palos Verdes; the UBS Global Tech Conference, November 30, Scottsdale; Scotia, December 5 in San Francisco; Madhu is going to host the Nasdaq Investor Conference in London on December 5; and we'll be at the Barclays Global Tech Conference December 7 in San Francisco. Look forward to connecting with you, telling you our story. And may the one that brings peace, bring peace for all. That ends the call today, operator.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.