Mark Barrenechea
Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead
Yeah. Fair enough. I got it. Thanks, Billy. Look, I’d note on SAP’s earnings call, they talked about their average contract length going out to about four and a half years. And we’re -- we tow right along with SAP on our SAP business, which is an important part of our business. So, they’ve talked about extending out to four and a half years. Now, we’re about four years right now. I think we have a little better control over that ramping. We did note, as you noted, we noted a couple quarters ago that we began to see this increasing ramp in agreements. So, it has stabilized. And we’re getting a little -- and we’re also getting better control and so are our partners, right, sort of saying, okay, this is sort of the high water mark. So, it’s not continuing to ramp. I would say that it’s hit a high water mark. But we’re starting to be able to dial it back a little bit. But we’re seeing just around four years, SAP was very, had their disclosure around four and a half years. And then on the on-prem to cloud, which I think was the other part of your question, it’s all about the second half drivers for us. When I look at Titanium X and one of the design principles of Titanium X, the first principle was to have, Titanium X is designed and built for SaaS and that’s why we’re calling it out. So, it is SaaS for our major pieces, core content, service management, digital operations, developer experience and XDR-as-a-Service is only a SaaS offering. And so, I think we’ll continue to see in a very controlled way, customers continuing to move from on-premise and we’ve done great into the private cloud, and Titanium X will give us now the next growth swim lane, which is to move on-prem into SaaS. And continue to do this in a very controlled way.