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PAR Technology Corporation (PAR)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 14, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the PAR Technology FY 2018 Fourth Quarter and Year End Financial Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to introduce one of your hosts for today's conference, Mr. Chris Byrnes, Vice President of Business and Financial Relations. You may begin.

Chris Byrnes

Analyst

Thank you, Tiffany, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd also like to take this opportunity to welcome you to the call today for PAR's 2018 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Financial Results Review. Complete disclosure of our results can be found in our press release issued this afternoon as well as in our related Form 8-K furnished to the SEC. To access the press release and the financial details, please see the Investor Relations and News section of our website at www.partech.com. At this time, I'd like to take care of certain details in regards to the call today. Participants on the call should be aware that we are recording the call this afternoon and it will be available for playback. Also, we are broadcasting the conference call via the World Wide Web. So please be advised, if you ask a question, it will be included in both our live conference and any future use of the recording. I'd also like to remind participants that this conference call includes forward-looking statements that reflect management's expectations based on the currently available data. However, actual results are subject to future events and uncertainties. The information on this conference call related to projections or other forward-looking statements may be relied upon and subject to the Safe Harbor statement included in our earnings release this afternoon and in our annual and quarterly filings with the SEC. Joining me on the call today is PAR's CEO and President, Savneet Singh; and Bryan Menar, PAR's Chief Financial Officer. I'd now like to turn the call over to Savneet for the formal remarks portion of the call, which will be followed by general Q&A. Savneet?

Savneet Singh

Analyst

Thanks, Chris, and good afternoon, everyone. I thank you all for joining us today. I'll begin today's call with an overview of our fourth quarter results for fiscal 2018. I'll then turn the call over to Bryan Menar, our CFO, who will review our financial performance in further detail. I will then conclude today's prepared remarks by discussing our segment performance and milestones related to our growth drivers and steps we are taking to improve the execution of our strategic plan. To begin, I'm very happy to have this opportunity to speak to you regarding PAR and how we are transforming our company. My immediate focus has been on rightsizing our operations to support Brink, aligning our management towards a set of goals that drive shareholder value and emphasizing a framework on how we should look at reinvestment. That focus will allow our company to win new customers, allocate capital to where returns are highest, and deliver value to our loyal shareholder base. In my brief tenure at PAR, I have been impressed by the company's solution portfolio and our opportunities to deliver long-term value to all of our shareholders. I'm working closely with the management team to develop strategies for accelerating growth and improving profitability as the company continues to transition to subscription software revenues. I am committed to disciplined capital allocation and carefully monitoring the return on that invested capital to ensure that PAR is investing in the correct initiatives to increase value in our company. While we have immense respect for the heritage and legacy of our past, we understand that we must change and provide a level of transparency to our employees, customers, and shareholders. Now to review our results for the fourth quarter 2018. This afternoon, the company reported fourth quarter revenues of $46.6 million compared to $55.5 million in the fourth quarter last year, a 16% decrease. This decrease was due to the continued disruption in cyclical hardware revenues associated with our Tier 1 customers and an 8% decline in government contract revenues versus Q4 last year. We reported a net loss of $6.1 million and a loss per share of $0.38 in the quarter, which included non-GAAP adjustments totaling $3.3 million, which are detailed in our press release. On a non-GAAP basis, PAR reported a net loss of $3.6 million and loss per share of $0.23 in the quarter. This compares to a non-GAAP net loss of $18,000 and $0.00 loss per share last year. I would now like to turn the call over to Bryan for a more detailed reporting on the quarter's financials. Bryan?

Bryan Menar

Analyst

Thank you, Savneet, and good afternoon, everyone. I would now like to take this opportunity to provide some additional details surrounding our fourth quarter results. As Savneet stated earlier, GAAP net loss was impacted by $3.3 million of non-GAAP adjustments for the quarter. Non-GAAP adjustments included two one-time non-cash charges related to SureCheck, a $1 million reserve on hardware inventory and a $1.6 million software impairment charge. Now on to revenue for the quarter. Product revenue for the quarter was $16.1 million, down $8.4 million, a 34% decrease compared to Q4, 2017. Our hardware sales in the Restaurant/Retail reporting segment were down versus prior year as one of our Tier 1 domestic customers completed a major hardware refresh project at the end of 2017. In addition, international hardware revenue was down $2.1 million. Hardware sales related to Brink were $2.9 million, down $0.2 million, an 8% decrease versus the high hardware attachment period of Q4 2017, but up $0.3 million, or 12%, sequentially versus Q3 2018. Service revenue for the quarter was $14.7 million, up $0.9 million, a 6.5% increase compared to Q4 2017. The increase was primarily due to a $0.8 million or 43% increase in Brink SaaS and service support revenue related to Brink. The increase in Brink-related revenue was driven by an increase in installment base of 81% from December 2017 to December 2018. We exited the quarter with $11.3 million of Brink annual recurring revenue from SaaS contracts, compared to $7 million as of December 2017. Contract revenue from our Government operating segment was $15.9 million, down $1.4 million, an 8% decrease compared to Q4 2017. This decrease was driven by a $3.8 million decrease in our intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance business line, partially offset by $2.4 million increase in our mission systems business line. The…

Savneet Singh

Analyst

Thanks, Bryan. I will take this opportunity to review our segment performance. First, for Restaurant/Retail technology. We continue to make progress aligning our organization to support Brink and significant opportunity we see in front of it. Our strategy includes rapidly expanding our Brink installed base of major accounts, while continuing to support our strategic initiatives across the rest of the industry. We have also kicked off a new initiative to expand our average store revenue by providing additional products to existing customers. Our upcoming launch of merchant services is an example of this. While growing store count is important we don't want to lose sight of the ability to drive significant revenue growth by providing high-quality solutions to our existing clients base, many of whom routinely request these services. I'm also pleased to report that in the fourth quarter, we signed a master services agreement with our largest Brink customer to-date, a restaurant organization with over 6,000 restaurants. I congratulate our team across all levels of our organization for this new customer win. This will be a multi-year deployment process to get all stores on boarded in the concept. To ensure we ramp up – to ensure we ramp this customer up, we're making the appropriate investments in Q1 and Q2 to support what we expect to be a strong back half of the year. We fully expect to hit our internal top line targets for the year, but we expect to shift to revenues from the first half of the year into the last two quarters to support this new customer. I am fully supportive of this move as we believe this customer has the ability to be transformative for our organization. I would like to see core business accounts 11 of the top 17 restaurant organizations as PAR…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Brian Kinstlinger with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great. Thanks so much. The first question I'll ask you mentioned obviously this large 6,000 store install. I'm assuming implementation begins in the second half of the year if you can confirm that. And then I know Arby's has led to some pressure on your MRR. Will this customer have the same impact? Or would you be able to get more traditional pricing for Brink?

Savneet Singh

Analyst

So let's talk about the second half first. Every customer is different and we don't talk about specific customer pricing or engagements, but we feel we've got a deal that works really well for PAR and for our customer and it is a bit of a different set of services than we did with Arby's earlier. On your -- the first question relates to the rollout. All these deployments are different. So we've already started working with this customer and we expect a significant pickup in the second half of the year as we get lined up here in the first couple of quarters.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great. And then can you update us on the timing for merchant services? When do you expect to begin being offered in generating revenue? And then I know Toast mandates. They are small Tier four and even smaller customers to take merchant services. How do you plan on going to market with it?

Savneet Singh

Analyst

So, the second half of the year, we expect to generate revenue. As it relates to how we roll out, it's going to be sold through our sales force and our channel. If not going to be mandated a big part of I think why Brink distinguishes itself from competitors is that we are open. We think we've got a very, very strong value proposition to our customers, which is why we're offering it, but we won't ever mandate it.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Got it. And then I think in our conversations, one of the discussions we've had is the time it takes between saline installation is one of the areas that needed some change in your review. Can you talk about or detail any plans to -- of how you plan to reduce that over time? Is that increasing resources? Is it being more efficient? Thank you.

Savneet Singh

Analyst

Yes, I think across a couple of areas. So, the first is, it's no question that we've been short on resources to tackle what we've had. And as you can see with the G&A reduction, we've focused on return on invested capital. I think we're addressing that as best as we can. The second part about it is I think driven by how we operate as a management team and culture and I think as we've really got and going here the first couple of months, a lot of layers have continued to be rationalized within the company as it relates to decision-making. And so I think our ability to go faster is very much impacted by how we run the company. And so, as I referenced at the end of the call, culture is a big part of that. And so I think you'll see us get a lot better at that. We're very, very focus on our speed today and so I think the combination of us generating capital to support implementations and then focusing as a group on executing -- having -- delivering with speed to our customers we feel pretty good we'll be able to fix that.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great. Two more. The first one is I realize payments is the first major functional add for Brink. Can you talk about what do you think the next two or three or whatever you see as the next updates you think that either address the market size or a need for the customer?

Savneet Singh

Analyst

So, I don't want to give you a specific example only because we're in a competitive market and they're still being made. But here's what I'd say and I think this is a really powerful statement. This point-of-sale system is very much the center of a restaurant. If the point-of-sale system goes down, it's very hard to operate a restaurant. And as a result, many of the solutions that we're talking about are integrated into our solution today. And so we have very strong feel for what our clients care about what they need and where they're not getting the products that they actually need. And so after lots and lots of customer conversations, we've got a pretty strong road map of what our customers need and are asking us for and so we're prioritizing it by what we think has a high degree of chance of success and also the market size and cost and effort to get there. So, I'd say this, I'm not going to sort of lay out what we're going to do for competitive dynamics, but we feel pretty strong about our ability to actually execute on it.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great. My last question in January you announced some cost-cutting programs. Can you quantify how much of that might be reinvested into Brink, so we might not see all of that in terms of cost savings if any?

Savneet Singh

Analyst

So, yes so effectively all of it. So, every dollar we free-up goes into supporting Brink. And I think a lot of the early lessons of the first couple of months here is we've gotten a lot smarter about saying what's our minimum return hurdle to have $1 not go to Brink and it's very high. And so there will be cost savings in the G&A front that will flow through that had nothing to do with Brink and that's just us transitioning from a hardware business to really a software business and aligning our G&A base with that. But a chunk of it and we won't detail it here but we can detail it in the future I think is going right back into Brink to fix some of the issues that you touched on earlier.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great. Sounds like some exciting changes. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from William Gibson with ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

William Gibson

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

Thank you. You threw out a lot of numbers regarding Brink, Savneet. How many locations were installed at year-end?

Bryan Menar

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

So, we had -- as Savneet mentioned earlier, we're at 8,000 in the middle of this quarter and we were at 7,700 as we exited active sites in 2018.

William Gibson

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

Good. And the new master service agreement you signed that is not a legacy customer, is that correct?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

That's correct.

William Gibson

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

And does preparing to roll them out slow down going after the other 8,700 in your line of sight?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

So, it does. It does. But it's more of a slip into Q3 and Q4 than losing them. So, those are customers that we will add on. But it's very much getting us ready for this large transformative customer. So, I don't -- we don't look at it as a loss. We look at it as let's make the right capital allocation decision and focus on where we think we can get the highest return and do the best for our customer. And so for us, yes, it obviously, limits our resources to go after other new customers, but for the ones that we have today, we feel pretty good, we could get still get them what they need.

William Gibson

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

Thank you. And I know you mentioned being focused on inventory reduction. Could there potentially be other charges coming this year?

Bryan Menar

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

We're always analyzing how we're actually controlling our inventory right now. The reductions that we're talking about there was related to the other business line that we have in the food safety. And that was more of a one-time charge due to a specific type of product that we had in there. As we go through depending upon the actual lead time with regard to ramp-ups for some of our customers and if there's going to be hardware attachment too there, there’s going to be some flux in that. As we go forward, we're also looking at how we actually streamline our hardware offerings as Brink becomes a larger component of the hardware requirements for across our business area, right and reducing the number of SKUs we're in -- traditional hardware centric space that we're in that was more customized type of hardware, which then allotted for us to actually have larger inventory size out there across our customer base. So we can bring that down as we streamline as we move into Brink.

William Gibson

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

Okay. And then lastly you mentioned sales and spending program changes there and aligning that. What are the changes? Is it less upfront, or is it strong gross margins?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

I love this question. So it's -- I'd say it's a few-fold. So the first is, I think what we've historically done is basically given everyone the same compensation plan. And one of the things we realized is signing a large Tier 1 customer is a very different process than signing a 50-store customer. And so we need to look at how we compensate the different roles and not saying everyone is the same, and so tiering our payments based on customer size and margin dollars is part A. The second part is actually splitting up the way we pay. So instead of paying on a customer signing, do we sign on first dollar and really incentivizing our sales force to continue the process of saying, hey we've got pilot, we've got a test market and rolling out. And so it's very much keeping that hunger to keep moving down the path. And the last one is, which you talked about, which is really, really getting a good feel for what's our return on that new customer. I think part of the challenge of a very fast growing organization is you never take a breather to say, hey do we make the same money on every account. And if we don't, then we shouldn't be compensating our sales force that way. And so when you can effectuate change in the compensation system to tie it to margin or customer type, you create the right behavior. And so early on you may have people running at the same speed to go after two -- what we think are similar customers. But as you sort of peel the onion back you notice that hey that one customer is -- to have a customer that we'll do a better job on, will make more margin and so sort of changing the target for different types of customer profiles is the last part of it.

William Gibson

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Adam Wyden with ADW Capital. Please proceed.

Adam Wyden

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

Hey, Savneet, thank you. I just wanted to make the comment first. For those of you who were on the last conference call, I think we can all agree that this one’s gone a little bit differently than the last one that was listen-only. So I really like what we're hearing and congratulations and look forward to hearing more. Here are my questions. So you mentioned a couple of the numbers. I think Bill asked you about them. I think one was you had 8,300 installed but 17,000 I guess stores within existing Brink contracts, i.e. Arby's Five Guys, all the guys that are already signed up. You have 17,000 that are yet to be installed within your existing banner portfolio. And then I guess the other question is you mentioned the MSA for 6,000, which is not an existing Brink Tier 1 customer, I think is Dairy Queen. But then you also mentioned another guy who was a Tier 1 hardware customer that you expect to have signed up in 2019. Those are not the same customer? Those are my first questions.

Savneet Singh

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

Okay. So they're not the same customer. We can't comment on who the other customer is. So I'll ignore that one. And then on your first question, the math is 8,300 sites that are booked or installed and the remaining store count within those existing customers is 8,700. So think of it as we're 8,300 penetrated within 1,700 [ph] potential stores in the contracts we signed. A little bit less than 50% penetrated.

Adam Wyden

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

Got it. And obviously that doesn't include SMB that you're selling through with -- type. So that's being sold on a day-to-day basis. That's not included. So 8,300 of 17,000 and doesn't include the new 6,000. It doesn't include the other Tier 1 that you expect to get, correct?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

It doesn't include SMB. It includes a portion of the 6,000. And it doesn't include anything in channel. SMB and channel as you know are relatively large portions of our business. So it's a -- I would say, it's 50% penetrated in large logos that we have signed agreements with today and likely underestimating the true potential because channel and SMB are not included.

Adam Wyden

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

And also it doesn't include that second Tier 1. So I mean just high level within your existing stuff that you have where you have 8,300 installed, you have 17,000 of which some of the 6,000 included but not all and also doesn't include the Tier 1. So I mean you guys really do have line of sight to this being a 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 unit. I mean, the numbers are -- the pipeline can get you there.

Savneet Singh

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

Yes it's all about our ability to execute. Yeah, it's all about our ability to execute. And like what we said, we're really focused on Q3 and Q4. Generally it is our bigger half, but also because the pipeline is very strong and we want to make sure that we execute appropriately. So it's an execution play.

Adam Wyden

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

Right, okay. And I guess here's my second question. Obviously let's get the elephant out of the room here. We wrote two letters to the board last year. I can totally understand why the company has not made a direct response. And I want to make it clear to everyone on the call and the company that I'm totally not averse to building this business given the robust software market valuation and the benefits of having a public company cost of capital and a real CEO now who gets return on invested capital. If we look at Twilio I mean the company that trades for 25 times revenue and uses currency to acquire several businesses in a stock-for-stock transaction obviously there are advantages of having a publicly cost of capital and SaaS and growing and building. And obviously just last week, Lightspeed completed its IPO in Canada. It is remarkable how much investor interest there is for fast-growing cloud point of sale. If you look at Lightspeed investors are paying nearly 35 times run rate ARR for an inferior product growing only 30%. Brink grew what 81% in the fourth quarter. If we apply the same multiple to Brink, I mean that gets us to nearly $30 per share for just Brink and doesn't credit the payments ramp-up, doesn't give you any credit for hardware or government. You can get to like $50 a share for Brink and its legacy assets and really not even giving you credit for 2020 and unit growth and the rest and payments. I mean the value gap has never been larger in this company's history. I mean can you walk me through the steps you personally plan on taking to close the valuation gap and having a real public company cost of capital, so…

Adam Wyden

Analyst · ADW Capital. Please proceed.

Right. Very right. Yeah. No. I mean, look all the checks that we've done when we talk to restaurants, is that the restaurant share of wallet for software is far higher than the $2,000. I mean, obviously, payments or dollars that are being spent elsewhere. But obviously, back of the house inventory, management, HR. Obviously, the software is all about return on invested capital in and of itself. So, if you can provide efficiencies within a very low margin business you can generate a lot of value. So, I don't -- I suspect that $2,000 will go up over time as you get payments and all this other stuff. So, yeah, it's great to hear a voice that has been ingrained with return on invested capital. And obviously, as that permeates, hopefully the stock market starts to realize who's running the ship now. A – Bryan Menar: Great. Thank you, Adam.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from David Polansky with Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

David Polansky

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I was just curious -- real quick on that 17,000 stores, does that include the new 6,000 unit concept?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

It does, a portion of it.

David Polansky

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Okay. And could you comment specifically -- I know you were talking about this broadly, but specifically there's been a 30,000 unit target. I think that was booked and installed by year-end 2020. Could you comment on that?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

So, as a policy right now, the company doesn't offer guidance. It is something we're looking at in the future, but we can't touch on that today.

David Polansky

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Okay. And then I heard a few times you talk about high retention, low churn. I was wondering if you could possibly disclose specifically what the churn is, and if not when we could expect some more standardized KPIs from you guys.

Savneet Singh

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Fantastic question. So, our annual churn is usually around 7% to 8%. And most of that churn, I should mention, happens in our SMB business. So, we've got very, very, very high retention at the larger customers. We will be introducing a set of KPIs that we share publicly to our shareholders, our employees, our customers. So, it's our desire to become more transparent as we go forward. And so a lot of these questions targets, I think, will become self-explanatory as we get going on changing some of the historical precedents.

David Polansky

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

All right. Great. And could you give us a bracket around win rates maybe on new contracts?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

I don't have a comment. So, I don't want to give you any correct number. Here's what I'd say. Head-to-head, we believe against every large competitor we have, we don't -- we're never underwater. So, we've never had a losing win rate against any competitor that we've had. But as for an industry set, I don't have one for you. But it's maybe something we can look at producing down the road. It is obviously a little bit challenging given how many segments that we play in, but broadly speaking we feel like we've got a greater -- we have a higher win rate against our competitors than they do against us.

David Polansky

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

All right. And then one more. Could you comment on PAR Pay, the module specifically? I think it's been -- what has it been six to eight months since you've rolled it out and if you could give us any updates on performance with that.

Savneet Singh

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

It's actually going very well. PAR Pay is a payment module that we charge a recurring fee for. Our customers and our sales team are finding actually very relatively high attachment rates and so, we are pushing it a lot harder now. The first quarter or two was to make sure there was customer demand, make sure that customers have strong adoption. It also has led to interesting externalities. So, less calls to our call center for payment terminals that are not ours. It's obviously a little bit more seamless, because we built the software. So it's an interesting play that not only generates incremental recurring revenue, but also helps lower the expense based on the servicing inside and because our customers have shown desire to -- I'm sorry, the customers have actually shown to actually like it and our sales teams feel very confident about their ability to sell, I think you'll see us push that harder coming Q2, 3 and 4.

David Polansky

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Great. And what was the monthly fee on that? Was it $30 to $40 a month?

Savneet Singh

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

That's right. Sometimes higher. It depends on sort of -- it depends on customer size and ...

Bryan Menar

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Correct. It will range from the mid $30 to $50.

Savneet Singh

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Depending on number of terminals per store, number of stores and so on and so forth. There are lots of different variables.

David Polansky

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

All right. Thanks, guys.

Bryan Menar

Analyst · Lowell Blake & Associates. Please proceed.

Thanks David.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, I'm showing no questions in queue. I'd like to turn the call back over to Savneet Singh for further remarks.

Savneet Singh

Analyst

Thank you all for joining today's call. We look forward to updating you on our progress and continuing to be more transparent as a company. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.