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Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 13, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Patrick Industries, Inc. Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. My name is John, and I’ll be your operator for today’s call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. And I will now turn the call over to Ms. Julie Ann Kotowski from Investor Relations. Ms. Kotowski, you may begin.

Julie Ann Kotowski

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Patrick Industries’ fourth quarter 2019 conference call. I am joined on the call today by Andy Nemeth, President and CEO; and Josh Boone, CFO. Certain statements made in today’s conference call regarding Patrick Industries and its operations may be considered forward-looking statements under the securities laws. There are a number of factors, many of which are beyond the company’s control, which could cause the actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. These factors are identified in our press releases, our Form 10-K for the year ended 2018 and in our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We undertake no obligation to update these statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward-looking statements are made, except as required by law. I would now like to turn the call over to Andy Nemeth.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Thank you, Julie Ann. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today. Before I begin my prepared remarks, I’d like to thank our Executive Chairman of the Board and my predecessor and friend Todd Cleveland for his leadership and mentorship over the years, both to me personally and to our management team and all of our 7,500 plus team members. I’ve been fortunate to witness and be a part of Todd’s legacy during the past 13 years that he has been a member of the Patrick family and I’m truly humbled and inspired by his strength and passion for our company, our customers, our communities, our team members and the industries we serve. I look forward to continuing to work with Todd and our Board of Directors, our management team and all of our talented and dedicated team members as we continue our journey together. 2019 marked a year of adaptation and execution for us as it was filled with headwinds, which included significant volatility in our primary markets, fluctuations in commodity prices, weather-related issues that impacted demand in both the RV and marine markets as well as the ability to set homes in the manufactured housing market and interest rate volatility. In light of these headwinds, we are pleased with our fourth quarter and full year performance and ability to flexibly and nimbly manage our business. Fourth quarter revenues of $550 million, increased 3% versus the prior year despite double digit wholesale shipment declines due to inventory recalibration in our leisure lifestyle markets. Additionally, we continued to grow organically and increased our content per unit in each market sector on a year-over-year basis. Our fourth quarter of 2019 net income was approximately $20 million or $0.86 per diluted share. Full year revenues increased 3%…

Josh Boone

Analyst

Thanks, Andy. Our consolidated net sales for the fourth quarter increased 3% to $550 million primarily reflecting industry growth and our MH and industrial markets and acquisitions which were partially offset by industry declines in the RV and marine markets. On the top line, we continue to focus on strategic initiative to drive organic growth and penetrate new markets and geographic regions. For the quarter, we were again able to drive organic growth net of industry growth by approximately 2%, despite significantly lower commodities and pricing decreases pass along to customers. In 2019, we completed two strategic acquisitions in the second half of the year, which contributed approximately $5 million of revenues in both the fourth quarter and the full year. Revenue from our leisure lifestyle market, which is comprised of the RV and marine markets, decreased 6% with RV and marine revenues down 4% and 13% respectively compared to the fourth quarter of 2018. RV content per unit increased 7% to $3,170 per unit, and estimated marine content per unit increased 26% to $1,581 per unit. Revenue from our housing and industrial markets increased 29% in the quarter with MH revenues up 50% versus the prior year and MH content per unit increasing 62% to $4,616 per unit. On the industrial side, revenues increased 6% in the quarter. Housing starts were up 20% in the fourth quarter, but were down 1% in the second quarter of 2019, which in the fourth quarter our products would be going to new homes that were started at this time. Generally, our products are put into homes four to six months after they are started. We would expect to see the impact of the strong momentum and housing starts in the first half of 2020. Our gross margin in the fourth quarter was…

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Thanks, Josh. As we look towards 2020, we believe that momentum is building in both our leisure lifestyle and housing and industrial markets. Retail demand and demographic trends remain positive for all of our primary markets supported by macroeconomic and secular tailwinds. We have strategically and opportunistically diversified our business model that is based on building upon our strengths and expertise and staying close to what we know and what we do best. We have positioned ourselves with a rock-solid patient capital structure with capacity, dry powder and runway that will allow us to deploy capital right in alignment with our strategic growth plans. The combination of our operational and financial foundation, customer first performance oriented culture and the talent, dedication and passion of a more than 7,500 team members will continue to position us to execute on our strategic plan to grow both top and bottom line, reinvest in our businesses, team members and communities and exceed our customers’ expectations. In closing, we look towards 2020 and all the opportunities it brings in the primary markets we serve, the ongoing support we receive from our customers, suppliers, Board of Directors, banking partners and shareholders affords us the opportunity to continue to focus on our goal of providing the highest level of quality, service and overall shareholder value. This is the end of our prepared remarks. We are now ready to take questions.

Q - Scott Stember

Analyst

Good morning, guys, and thanks for taking my questions.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Good morning.

Josh Boone

Analyst

Good morning.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Andy, one of your competitors on their conference call talked about the level or how good things have been at least from their top customers on the RV side from an order standpoint. Can you maybe just talk about the cadence of and maybe, I don’t know a size up the increases that we’re seeing so far by month also?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Sure. Based on our data and we do some pretty detailed tracking as it relates to production rates with our customers. We’re anticipating right now based on what we’re seeing at January was up double digits. I think February is up single digits. All in for the first two months, we’re going to be up high single digits to low double digits. So production rates have improved. There's a little bit of – there is some weather impact from a year ago. So again, we would tell you that we're a mid- to high-single-digit production rate increase right now, but we are seeing that in both January and February.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Got it. And maybe on the margin side, Josh, you talked about flat RV environment being able to hit that, the higher end of the 30 to 50 basis points of expansion. Maybe just talk about the cadence of that? Should we expect to start seeing that in the first quarter? Or would this happen a little bit later in the year? Just trying to get a sense of how we should model?

Joshua Boone

Analyst

Yes. I think when we see 2020, like in our prepared remarks, 2020 is positioning us well to be able to generate solid margin expansion. So with all of our end markets, flat to up based on current forecast, I would think starting out of the gate in Q1, we should be in that range of 30 to 50 basis points. And if we see upside on the RV side, above being flat for next year, as we talked about, potentially exceeding the 50 basis points.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Got it. And maybe just touching based on the Marine market just one last time, I know that we've got some pretty decent news about retail sales, and it looks like inventories have come down to appropriate levels. When should we expect to start seeing order intake start to pick back up on that side?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Sure Scott. This is Andy. We're feeling like the inventories on the Marine side are calibrating very nicely. The dealers and the manufacturers work very closely together to – have worked very closely together second half of the year last year to really manage that and bring inventories in line. We're hearing good things out of our customers today. We're expecting that inventories will be calibrated appropriately really through – probably towards the latter end of the first quarter into the second quarter. So first half of the year right now, we're estimating wholesale production to be down just a little bit, but picking up in the back half of the year. So again, we think that they've done a great job. We are hearing positive trends on retail, and our customers are continuing to up content their boats. So everybody is feeling pretty good right now.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Got it. That’s all I have for now. Thanks.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Thanks.

Josh Boone

Analyst

Thanks Scott.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Daniel Moore from CJS Securities.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Andy and Josh, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Good morning.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

And very quickly, Todd, if you're there somewhere listening, I want to thank you for all your help, congratulate you on the tremendous success and wish you all the best in future endeavors. Although I know we'll be seeing and hearing from you. Andy or Josh, you talked about RV wholesale being flat to up even if retail were down mid- to high-single digits. At this stage, is that your expectation in terms of retail, is that your best crystal ball that we'd be down mid- to high-single digits? Or based on what you're seeing entering the year conversations with dealers, how do you see the year shaking out?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Sure Dan, this is Andy. Absolutely, right now, based on our math and the level of inventory turns that are out there, the level of inventories, again that we talked about, are lower than they were back in 2014 on 40% more retail demand. And so as we looked at it, and we've done our calcs, like I said, we think that wholesale could be up mid- to high-single-digits based on mid- to high-single-digit declines in retail. So we do feel like that's a reasonable expectation at this point. We're hearing solid demand. The new turn level is really going to be the new standard, and so I think we'll get a feel for that here in the first part of the year. So we would expect turns to have gone up from those historical periods. That being said, we do think that there's definite opportunity on the wholesale side to match up well with retail.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

No, absolutely, the math makes perfect sense. I was more focused on retail. Do you think we're down mid- to high single digits? Or do you think flat to down 5% is a more realistic expectation? Sorry to belabor the point just to retail specifically?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

No, we think retail is in a good spot. Other than the trending of down flat to mid-single, we would tell you that retail feels pretty good right now. We're hearing good news on the shows. We're hearing traffic is up. We're hearing as well, sales are up and unit sales are up. So everything is positive at this point from our perspective on the retail side.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

So we're not starting the year down high single digits if that were to be the case. I just wanted to clarify that.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

We don't believe so.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Okay, helpful. And then decontenting, that seems to be flattening out as well. Any crystal ball or expectations for what type of content growth you might be able to achieve both in RV and Marine this year?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

We think the decontenting has definitely stabilized. And in fact, we're seeing certain customers up content at this point, really looking to differentiate their units from the contenting that have been taken out. So we've actually kind of seen a little bit of a shift. So the start of that looks like it's starting to happen. Our estimates continue to be with 2% to 3% organic growth on top of industry is kind of how we think about things. So we feel like those are valid and achievable targets.

Josh Boone

Analyst

Yes Dan just to add a little bit additional color on the Marine side, with the recent acquisition of G.G. Schmitt and the additional market share impact on Marine, we expect Marine to continue to probably grow double digits on the content per unit and RV to be in that low- to mid-single-digit range.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Perfect. Couple of little housekeeping ones. It sounds like tax rate, you expect to tick up? Is that conservatism? Or did we have some discrete benefits this year that won't recur?

Josh Boone

Analyst

We had some discrete benefits in Q4 that we do not expect to reoccur, but there's always some moving pieces at year-end regarding taxes. So our best crystal ball right now is to continue to be in that 25% to 26% range, excluding the discrete items, which we have lowered over 25% for the full year 2019 without the impact of those items.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Got it. And then one more, what do we expect roughly for D&A for 2020 and of that, how much is amortization expense? I know that the cash earnings is continue – given you continue to be acquisitive, cash earnings continues to grow in terms of the GAAP relative to GAAP?

Josh Boone

Analyst

Yes so on D&A side we’re $65 million $70 million for 2020.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Total?

Josh Boone

Analyst

Yes. And at $15 million to $16 million range consistent on the stock compensation.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

And do you have the amortization component of that $65 million to $70 million?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Yes. Expect it to be in the $30 million, $38 million, $40 million range.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Perfect. I appreciate the color. If I have any follow-ups, I will jump back. Thanks.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Tim Conder from Wells Fargo Securities

Joe Lachky

Analyst

Hi there this is actually Joe Lachky dialing in for Tim. So I just wanted to follow-up on your RV assumptions since it sounds like pretty good few months at the start of the year, particularly on the retail side. So my question is what do you think industry unit shipments could potentially look like in a best case scenario, for example, say, if retail sales were flat to up slightly? And then maybe comment on your ability and how quickly you'd be able to ramp up production in a best case scenario?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Sure, this is Andy. If retail sales or retail unit sales are, call it, flat based on our math and turns, we would expect double-digit growth in wholesale using the same math that's in play today. Our ability to ramp up as well, as we've got – we can work Fridays and Saturdays, so we're in a good place from a capacity perspective. So we feel like there’s flexibility there to match up very well with wholesale demand and retail demand.

Joe Lachky

Analyst

All right, that’s helpful. And then in regards to margins, can you talk through your outlook for input costs as we look into 2020 and specifically labor costs? And along those lines, I wanted to ask if you had any automation opportunities this year or beyond? Thanks.

Josh Boone

Analyst

Yes, regarding input costs, so commodities for us have stabilized over the course of 2019. We saw the decline in commodities coming out of the latter part of 2018 and the first half 2019. Those have stabilized, and we've passed along pricing accordingly with the movement in those commodities. As we look out for 2020, we don't really see headwinds or tailwinds related to commodities. With where we're at today, we kind of see them staying relatively consistent and really having no impact from a margin perspective. On the labor front, given where capacities are at today and the initiatives that we've taken over the last couple of years, we would say labor is in a really good spot. We have turnovers come down consistently over the last few years to a low point here in 2019. And so we're in a good position to be able to flex up, as Andy alluded to, from a days perspective without even adding additional workforce here as we enter 2020. So we would say, from a margin perspective, really no puts or takes on the commodity side, and labor is in a really good spot with the ability to flex up into 2020.

Joe Lachky

Analyst

Great, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Craig Kennison from Baird.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. And Todd and Andy congratulations to both of you on a great partnership and your succession plan. Question on M&A. You've got a great balance sheet now, and you've locked up some capital for the long term. How much capital could you deploy in 2020? And then what sectors look most appealing today for you?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Sure, okay. Thanks very much for the comments. Yes, we're very excited about our acquisition pipeline today. It really spans all four market sectors. We feel like we've got a great capital structure that we positioned for the next evolution of our strategic plan and looking to deploy that capital. We're going to deploy in the range of our operating cash flows is kind of how our model is centered. And we're going to keep a very disciplined leverage profile in doing so. And so again, as we look across the spectrum, we think there's tremendous opportunity in each of our market sectors. Our leisure lifestyle markets look very good right now, and our industrial markets look really good. And as we see manufactured housing continue to improve, where we would expect valuations to come much more in line with cash flows, and so we think that will be an up and coming opportunity. But we're very excited about I would say again, our lead lifestyle and our industrial markets today, in particular, with potential on the MH side as well.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

Thank you. And then, Josh, you had mentioned an optimistic margin outlook for 2020. What are the key drivers to your margin expansion outlook?

Josh Boone

Analyst

Yes I think the biggest driver is going to be a stabilization of our end markets. So as we've seen pretty significant declines in RV in 2019 of 16%, the first half of 2019 all four of our end markets were down. Then we have Marine is down pretty significantly here in the back half of the year. And so as we're seeing the stabilization of those markets, the tailwinds on both the manufactured housing, in the industrial side, on the housing side as well, so that would be first and foremost. In addition to that, the initiatives we've taken place in 2019 with the with the recent cost reductions that we enacted in Q3 of $10 million will still have significant year-over-year impact. We'll benefit from that in 2020. Additionally, we have the LaSalle Bristol acquisition and the corresponding synergies associated with that that will fill the impact of that in 2020 as well. And so when you put all those pieces together, we feel good with the margin outlook of 30 to 50 basis points, with upside from there based on the RV scenarios that we've kind of outlined this morning that Andy had mentioned.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

That’s helpful. And just in terms of the cadence, would you expect a fairly even cadence throughout the year in terms of the expansion? Or is it loaded in one half or the other?

Josh Boone

Analyst

It’s not loaded in one half or the other. I would say, relatively even. We talked about Marine being down in the first half of the year relative to the back half of the year. So our mix of distribution in the MH side of the business is relatively higher, and Marine is pretty much all manufacturing. And so with Marine being a little softer in the first half, I would say a little stronger op margin improvement in the back half of the year, but not a significant difference.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

Thanks Josh. And then finally, just with respect to your supply chain, do you have any exposure to regions that have been hit hard by the coronavirus?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Craig this is Andy. We do have exposure. It's a mixed bag. At this point though the coronavirus lined up with Chinese New Year, and we always buy a little bit ahead during this time period. So we're good from an inventory perspective through the first quarter. We've heard that return to work rates are coming back at 70% to 75% at this point in time. It also depends on the automation of the facilities as well. And so we've got a mix of facilities that are more labor intensive. And so we don't expect anything at this point. We're planning ahead and making sure that we're working on supply, but certainly from – looking out today, we'll continue to evaluate but we're good through the first quarter.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

Is there kind of a downside scenario you could frame for us just in terms of production doesn't come back online, how much of your supply chain really would be disrupted?

Josh Boone

Analyst

It’s Josh. From an import perspective, in China, the majority of our inputs are finished goods, they are distributed products, which we keep an ample supply on hand at any given time. And as Andy alluded to with the Chinese New Year, we have excess of inventory on hand right into Q2. And so, I would say, at this point in time, we're not ready to give some type of doom-and-gloom scenario if production did resume back to full state at some point in time. From a manufacturing standpoint, we're somewhat limited on what comes from China. It's more on the distributor side. And with the inventory that we have on hand, we're obviously going through contingency planning, but really aren't looking at some doom-and-gloom scenario. We would expect to be sufficient through into Q2. But we'll have more visibility here over the next few weeks.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

This is Andy. Just to add on just a little bit to that. We may experience some additional freight charges or airfreight charges for a short period of time, but we don't expect anything overly significant at this point. We think we've got a good supply chain. We're actually also hearing some opportunities on our production side on some of our more custom products that are coming our way because of this. So it's a little bit of a mixed bag, but we would expect to manage through this fairly well.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

That’s super helpful. Thank you.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Yes thanks Craig.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Stephen O'Hara from Sidoti & Company.

Stephen O'Hara

Analyst

Yes hi. Good morning.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Good morning Steve.

Stephen O'Hara

Analyst

Good morning. Just on the, I guess, going back acquisitions quickly, can you just talk about which markets, end markets, maybe you see the best opportunity in? And where you – if you had to kind of bet today, which ones would be the more likely candidates for acquisitions versus where you'd probably see less activity? I would assume Marine would be the first, and then RV would kind of be last, but maybe I am wrong.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Steve this is Andy. I would say really in our leisure lifestyle market RV and Marine we have opportunities. and then like I said, the industrial market is very exciting for us. We've got new presence in the Pacific Northwest they were extremely excited about. We're excited about the western regions of the country today on the industrial market. So again, very excited about both those two. On the MH side, we're a little bit more distribution oriented. So I'd say if you were to rank them, I would rank leisure, lifestyle and industrial kind of together, MH, I'm not saying we're not looking at MH candidates, but again, as that business continues to improve, we expect valuations to line up better with cash flows and expect to see more opportunities there.

Stephen O'Hara

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe this has been asked, but in terms of the scenario you painted for RV retail, I assume that was just kind of a – what the potential could be, there wasn't any change in outlook. I think in the past, you guys have said kind of low to mid-single digits down in retail. Is that still the case?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

That’s the case, and that's really based on the trending that we've seen. So trending will tell us that it's going to be down low to mid-singles at this point. That being said, again, we're hearing good things out of the shows. So far, we're hearing increased units in the high single and double digits as it relates to retail. So again, I think, we feel pretty good about where retail is at and wholesale today. But based on trending that we've seen low to mid-single down is, I would say, the baseline, but with upside potential for sure.

Stephen O'Hara

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe just lastly, on the industrial side, in terms of your ability to kind of capture the the upside on housing, if starts to remain strong, is there – do you guys have any geographic issues or regional issues where you're underrepresented in certain areas? Or is it pretty national where you can – shipping is not prohibitive and things like that? Thank you.

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

Sure. This is Andy. I would say we're more concentrated in the western regions as it relates to that housing market in particular and what we're seeing going on today in both single-family and multifamily. So that's good from our perspective. And we see a tremendous runway there as it relates to that industrial platform. So I wouldn't say we're underrepresented. I would say we see a lot of opportunity to expand in those areas.

Stephen O'Hara

Analyst

Okay. All right thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Daniel Moore from CJS Securities.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Most of my follow-ups have been touched upon. You may have mentioned it, Josh, if I missed it, what was organic growth and/or the revenue contribution from acquisitions trailing 12 months in Q4?

Josh Boone

Analyst

Yes, so for the quarter, our consolidated industries were down 7%. And organically, we were down 5%. So organic ahead of industry growth of plus 2% and acquisitions contributed 8% of the revenues or $45 million for the quarter. For the year, with the headwinds in pricing, lower commodity costs, organic net of industry is plus 1%. So our industry is down 13% to organic, down 12%.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you again.

Josh Boone

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from John Lovallo from Bank of America.

John Lovallo

Analyst

Hey guys, thank you for taking my questions as well. Maybe starting with – yes, maybe starting with manufactured housing, given the trend that the first-time buyer is buying a little bit later in life and arguably perhaps a little bit better off financially than predecessor generations. Are you seeing a mix up in the content of the manufacturer housing? And then maybe along the same lines, is there any risk that the first-time buyer maybe skips the manufactured housing level and moves into maybe a little bit more expensive stick frame home, just given the fact that they're a little better better off financially?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

This is Andy. What I would say is that manufactured housing provides a very nice value proposition today with the quality of the components that are going into manufactured housing much improved from where they were years ago and with cost being half the price of stick-built, we think there's tremendous opportunity both on the MH side and the stick-built side. So I don't know that we see that – we may see some buyers surpass that, but with our presence in both single-family, multifamily and manufactured housing, we think we've got a balance that we can play well with. So we wouldn't anticipate any impact.

John Lovallo

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. And then Dodge data and analytics is calling for a decline in commercial new construction in 2020 and 2021. Are you seeing anything that would suggest that that's accurate? How your customer pipeline is looking because it does seem conservative to us?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

We are not seeing that right now. So we are feeling – our customers are feeling good about where they're at from a production perspective.

John Lovallo

Analyst

Okay, that’s helpful. And then finally, just because there was a bunch of numbers thrown around, I just want to make sure. On the RV side, what exactly are you planning your business around in terms of wholesale and retail?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

We think RV, based on the metrics that we're looking at today, is flat to up on the wholesale side.

John Lovallo

Analyst

And what does that translate into from retail you said down mid- to low – low to mid-single digits?

Andy Nemeth

Analyst

We think retail could be down mid- to high based on the turns that we're seeing today.

John Lovallo

Analyst

Turn mid- to high. Okay, thank you very much guys.

Operator

Operator

And we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Miss Julie Ann Kotowski for further remarks.

Julie Ann Kotowski

Analyst

Thanks John. We appreciate everyone for being on the call today and look forward to talking to you again at our first quarter 2020 conference call. A replay of today's call will be archived on Patrick's website, www.patrickind.com under Investor Relations. I'll now turn the call back over to our operator.

Operator

Operator

Thank you ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.