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Payoneer Global Inc. (PAYO)

Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 11, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Payoneer's Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. Following the speakers remarks, we will open the lines for your questions. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Ignatius Njoku, Vice President of Investor Relations, to begin.

Ignatius Njoku

Management

Thank you. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's call may contain forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, including those set forth in our filings with the SEC and available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Actual results may differ materially from any forward-looking statements we make today. These forward-looking statements speak only as of today and the company does not assume any obligation or intend to update them, except as required by law. In addition, today's call may include non-GAAP measures. These measures should be considered as a supplement to and not as a substitute for GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation to the nearest GAAP measure can be found in today's earnings press release which is available on the company's website. Hosting today's call are Scott Galit, Payoneer's Chief Executive Officer; and Michael Levine, Payoneer's Chief Financial Officer. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Scott to begin.

Scott Galit

Management

Thanks, Ignatius. Good evening and thank you all for joining us today to discuss our third quarter 2021 results. Payoneer had a very strong third quarter. We delivered revenues, take rate and adjusted EBITDA well ahead of our expectations as our global team continued to execute well on our strategy to be the world's go-to partner for digital commerce everywhere. We saw continued momentum globally with small businesses, marketplaces and partners who rely on Payoneer to provide them with the broad selection of services they need to pay and get paid, to grow and to manage their digital businesses. We added a record number of new customers in the quarter as Payoneer continues to emerge as a leading on-ramp to the global digital economy for small businesses worldwide. The Payoneer brand is a growing asset. We received well over 1 million new customer applications in the quarter and our growth is truly global and diversified. We had year-over-year volume growth of over 50% in regions like Latin America and South Asia, Middle East, North Africa. We see tremendous untapped potential in emerging markets globally and we are increasing our go-to-market investments meaningfully. Our continued strong performance and momentum with customers highlight our unique position in the market, offering the most comprehensive solution set for small businesses from around the world looking to engage in commerce anywhere. We strengthened our position as the global leader in e-commerce marketplace ecosystems. We continue to support the rollout of our partnership with eBay, helping eBay improve payments for small businesses in a number of key markets around the world. And we recently announced our partnership with Coupang in South Korea, the world's fourth largest e-commerce market. We are very happy with the momentum we are building with the Payoneer partner ecosystem. One of our…

Michael Levine

Management

Thank you, Scott. As Scott just shared, we were very happy with our performance in the third quarter and we are well on the way to record an excellent year while also positioning us for additional growth in the future. Allow me now to walk you through key financial highlights from our Q3 results. Revenues in the third quarter were $122.7 million, up 35% year-over-year, driven by growth in customers, new marketplaces including eBay, expansion of offerings such as B2B AP/AR and commercial card and nonvolume revenue streams. Volume increased 16% year-over-year to $13.6 billion, with our growth rates impacted by supply chain disruptions and slowing e-commerce growth. When looking at a two-year compounded annual growth rate between Q3 2019 and Q3 2021, our volume grew 37% annually. We continue to build momentum in regions like Eastern Europe, Latin America, South Asia and the Middle East, all of which have volume growth much faster than the business overall. We also continue to see above-average volume growth in B2B AP/AR which has volume growth over 100% compounded over the past two years and now represents approximately 10% of Q3 volume, up from approximately 7% in the third quarter of 2020. We also had moderate growth in travel volumes this quarter over last year but it's mostly in destinations where the payouts are in the same currency and thus, with lower take rates. The blended take rate for the quarter was 90 basis points, up from 82 basis points in Q2 of this year and 77 basis points in Q3 of last year. Our faster-growing regions have a higher mix of services exporters and smaller customers, both of which typically generate higher take rates than the business overall. The increase in take rate was driven by changes in customer mix, geographic diversity…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Mayank Tandon with Needham & Company. Please proceed.

Sam Salvas

Analyst

Hey, good evening. This is actually Sam Salvas on for Mayank tonight. I was wondering, to start off, if you guys could provide some additional commentary around how the rollout of some of these newer products like B2B, commercial cards, working capital is going as well as what the attach rates with these new products are looking like.

Scott Galit

Management

Great. Thanks, Sam, for the question. So overall, we're really happy with what progress we're seeing with our newer services. And these are really important as we're focusing a lot on these high-value services like B2B AP/AR and the commercial card, as we talked about. B2B AP/AR, as Michael mentioned, is now up to 10% of our volume in the third quarter, up from 7% at the same time a year earlier. The two-year CAGRs there are over 100%. And so this is a really exciting and unique high-value service. It is growing faster than the business overall and we continue to see just tremendous opportunities all over the world. So we are increasing our investments in our go-to-market activities related to B2B AP/AR and also in our product activities. Commercial card is another area that we think is quite promising. It's still pretty early. So that's something that we just started to introduce earlier this year but we're seeing really, really positive interest from our customers and we're seeing growing momentum as we move through the year. So, this is another area we introduced a little bit earlier this year and we started to roll out a Cashback rewards program to start incenting faster adoption of the product and actually greater usage of the product as well from customers that have signed up for it. And all of those strategies so far are working. So we're still -- we're quite a bit earlier in our curve of ramping that up versus the B2B AP/AR offering. But again, it's a big opportunity and a way to actually generate a higher take rate from existing volume flows as we help our customers now actually do more with the way they spend their money and make purchases and bring more efficiency and…

Sam Salvas

Analyst

Got it. That's super helpful. And then just a quick follow-up. I was wondering if you guys could elaborate a little bit more on the Coupang partnership and how we should think about that ramping in the long-term potential of that partnership.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. Thanks for asking. I mean, Coupang, we're really excited about the relationship there. South Korea is the fourth largest e-commerce market in the world which is pretty remarkable given the size of the country. And Coupang is really a tremendous market leader there. It's a great opportunity for us. We're both like-minded in focusing on the opportunity for small businesses around the world to be able to grow and capitalize on the e-commerce opportunity in South Korea. And we're excited to work together with them on payments and also our green channel offering, where we'll help introduce small businesses to the Coupang platform. In general, we don't talk here specifically about any individual partner that we work with. But in general, partnerships like this can take some time to roll out. The -- often, we have some time to implement and integrate the relationship and then actually begin a rollout and those things can take some time. So usually, these are relationships that will ramp up and become more significant as time passes.

Sam Salvas

Analyst

Great. Thanks for the insights there. And congrats on the results.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. Thank you very much for the great questions. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Sanjay Sakhrani with KBW. Please proceed.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst

Thanks, good evening. Yes, maybe on the volume weakness. Obviously, the comp trends have been soft with the supply chain issues. And I know, Michael, you want to talk about next year in March. But just at a very high level, as we think about next year, you sort of laid out your long-term revenue growth expectations. Do you need a significant improvement in the supply chain issues to sort of achieve that? Because it seems like you've got a decent amount of momentum with the newer initiatives.

Scott Galit

Management

Great. Sanjay, great to talk to you again. So actually, I think one of the things that we probably haven't highlighted enough is just how much diversity we have in our business and I think that actually really is highlighted by the strength of this quarter. So what you see right now, where there's a little bit of softness as it relates to e-commerce, is that we're continuing to see strength, not just in the new services but actually in some of the other vertical markets that we operate in. And in practice, we are playing in a number of large markets that are really kind of transformational in the way the world is changing. So things like remote work, we work with social platforms, we're engaged in distance learning. And each of these verticals tend to have some different characteristics. So what we saw in the third quarter was really the amplification of some of those areas of strengths. So we saw geographic diversity where we actually saw faster growth in other markets in regions like Latin America and South Asia, Middle East, North Africa and Eastern Europe. We saw faster growth with some of those other verticals. And many of those other verticals, the payment sizes are smaller. The customers are a little bit smaller and the take rates are a bit higher. We also, as we touched on, had terrific customer acquisition. Our bank partnership strategy is working. We're seeing, again, a lot of really exciting opportunities and it's translating into tangible results with meaningful growth in new customer ads and also usage of those bank partner integrations. And then as you already touched on, those high-value services that are growing faster and also our higher take rate services. So part of what we're excited about is…

Michael Levine

Management

Yes. I would just add, we're also seeing geographic diversification as well. So as Scott mentioned, there's countries that are growing quite fast and we proactively invest and see growth in those. And to the point about the record number of customers, it really goes to show the opportunity to both grow the overall platform as well as to add additional services to get more value out of those relationships.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst

Absolutely. And then just second question. Scott, you talked about M&A potentially. Maybe if you could just talk about the pipeline, how hot something might be in terms of happening and where exactly you're looking.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. Thanks. So we are actively exploring opportunities and we do have quite a number of discussions that we're engaged in. There's nothing imminent but we are seeing a number of interesting opportunities across a range of services, across a range of geographies. And we're actually excited about the breadth and scope of what's out there. So we are likely -- I think we are likely to see us focused -- will continue to be more broadly in the realm of digital commerce and commerce enablement. And we're still more likely to focus on buying something that is kind of smaller to midsize, where we have an opportunity to take a company that has a great product that can be complementary for our customers where we can actually drop it into our global platform and push it out to customers around the world and through our sales teams and our partners around the world as well. So that's, in general, the way we're likely to approach it; so we are building momentum but nothing imminent at the moment.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Sakhrani. The next question comes from Josh Siegler with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed.

Josh Siegler

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed.

Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking my question. I'd like to dive a little further into the emerging markets expansion. When we think about the key drivers for growth there, were a lot of applications coming in organically where you're leveraging your go-to-market strategies? Just any additional color you could provide would be helpful around that.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes, sure. So first, something -- again, I mean, we probably have undercommunicated just how much like the foundation of the Payoneer business historically has really been a broad focus on emerging markets. And that really is our heritage and our history and how we've grown up and really how we think about kind of the unique role that we can play in the world. And so we have great footprints in really interesting parts of the world in Eastern Europe, in places like Ukraine and Serbia, in South Asia, more broadly in markets, not just India but places like Bangladesh and Pakistan and all over the world. So what we've seen is, in many cases, those parts of the world are seeing the greatest transformation, not just in terms of the impact of digitalization on the lives of people locally but actually enabling really, really talented and entrepreneurial people to actually plug into and access opportunities around the world. And many of those markets are the markets where Payoneer is really the most meaningful on-ramp to the digital economy. I mean some of those markets, you'll see where we could even be like a top 100 most trafficked websites in some of those markets. So, it really is -- the acquisition momentum that we have, I think, first and foremost, really does highlight just how much excitement, enthusiasm and demand there is around the world among entrepreneurs across different verticals, across different geographies to participate in the digital economy. And we are seeing really momentum across all of our acquisition channels. So organically, still we get the majority of applications just coming to payoneer.com as these entrepreneurs around the world know that Payoneer is the place to go to get started when they're beginning their journey in digital commerce.…

Josh Siegler

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed.

Got it, that's very helpful. And then, I'd like to touch on the value-added services piece. So clearly, you've been able to successfully cross-sell into your customer base. So how are you identifying and reaching these customers? And how much untapped opportunity still remains to cross-sell in the future?

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. I mean we're still pretty early in actually developing and flexing those muscles. So we have multiple ways that we actually go to market with those and a way to think about it is we've got a chunk of our customer base that we would describe as being managed where we actually have people that are assigned to manage those relationships. As you might guess, those would be typically a bit higher, larger-volume, higher-value customers. And then, we have a large pool of customers that are self-serve customers. And we actually have tools for upselling in both of those different pockets of our business. So on the self-serve platform, we have ways, different parts of the infrastructure where we can actually present new offers. We obviously have a CRM platform where we have a variety of different ways of messaging and communicating. We host events around the world, where we also will actually share information about new opportunities for our customers in kind of larger scale. So we continue to see great, great opportunities there. We continue to refine those tools but we've already seen a good amount of effectiveness as we actually deploy those. And then with our go-to-market teams which are growing -- again, that's a growing part of our sales organization are not just net new sales but also our customer success teams and the teams that are managing our larger enterprise accounts. And those are areas where, again, I think we're still pretty early in not just in building out those teams but actually in kind of upselling new services to our existing customers. So we've already proven it out that we know how to do it. But we also know there's a long way to go, not just in improving it but also, we have lots and lots of customers that we believe that are more high-value services that we can bring to them. Merchant Services, I'll just give another illustration. We now have teams in multiple parts of the world that work with our enterprise customers that have actually now been going out and engaging with those customers talking about our payment technology and we're actually seeing a lot of good opportunities and already some good wins and a really nice pipeline that's developed there. So again, on some of these, especially the kind of longer sales cycle type 1s, it can take a little while for that to ramp up. But it's a muscle that we're actually building and it's going pretty well.

Josh Siegler

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed.

Very helpful. Thank you, Scott.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. Thanks, Josh.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Siegler. The next question comes from Bob Napoli with William Blair. Please proceed.

Robert Napoli

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Great, thank you. Good afternoon, Scott and Michael. Nice quarter. I guess, what -- I mean, really solid results and I think the guidance is pretty solid as well. And went from -- and there was some cautionary tone, I think, on the last call and I think even some on this call. But it sounds like broadly, there's a lot of momentum in the business. What is doing better than what you expected when you gave guidance last quarter? And the EBITDA as well, I guess, on the profitability side falling through to the bottom line. So what changed versus last quarter that gave you the upside, not only in the top line but also on the bottom line?

Scott Galit

Management

Bob, I'll start and then Michael will chime in. And so first, again, it's -- I think in hindsight, I think Q2 almost felt like a little bit maybe like the canary in the coal mine about some of what was going on around supply chain. And I think you know us. In general, we try to be pretty cautious and moderated in the way we talk about things. In general, I would say we're executing well really across a lot of the different things that we're working on. I mean B2B AP/AR continues to perform well. The customer acquisition continues to go really well. It's still on the smaller side but we've had really nice momentum pickup with the commercial card through the third quarter. And then those bank partnerships, again, really starting to kick in. And so again, all of these areas have done quite well. And broadly speaking, also, as I touched on earlier, the non-e-commerce portion of our business and the kind of broad geographically distributed portion of our business also performed well. So overall, I think what we're seeing, again, is kind of some of the fruits of the seeds that we've planted over the last couple of years are coming to bear. And overall, we're seeing a lot of good solid execution. And again, in portions of the market, it's cooperating. In other parts, we could -- we certainly would benefit from a little bit of extra tailwind. But I think what we showed this quarter and what we're excited about looking forward is that, that, again, we think, provides upside to where we are now.

Michael Levine

Management

Yes. I would just add that we're very experienced in terms of managing risk. In terms of where we were at the end of the second quarter, we were being cautious because we do have a great vantage point in understanding where things are going. We saw the supply chain challenges. We understood potential reverberations if those challenges continued longer I think in terms of the supply chain than we can hope. But we got a conservative view on working capital. So as Scott mentioned, we're more cautious. I think we recognize that we had very good risk management processes in place and we're able to adjust for that. So I think one of the things that we'll see when we talk about the margin is that the cost for working capital came down as the adjusted provisions reflect the actual risk. So that is something that we hope to continue to accelerate going forward and that we feel more comfortable that we've measured what the risk is.

Robert Napoli

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

And then, just on -- first of all, I know you don't comment specifically on individual clients but I was wondering if you can give any commentary on how the eBay expansion is going, especially given that they've been moving off PayPal a lot faster than over the last couple of quarters. And then my last question would be just geographic market expansion-wise, where do you see the biggest opportunities? I mean it seems like there's some really strong take rate opportunities in Latin America. But where do you see the biggest opportunities for you to grow geographically? So eBay and geographic expansion.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes, great. So eBay -- and I think they've commented on this, so more kind of echoing what I think they've already shared publicly. I think they've communicated that they've made good progress on overall their payments initiative. And it's something that we've been really proud to have the opportunity to work with them on such an important strategic effort as they've looked to improve the way small businesses around the world manage their payments around the eBay marketplace. And so they have made a lot of progress on that. And I think they've just recently provided some additional disclosure on that. So I think they are, as you said, pretty far along in that. And it's something that we've been, again, really happy to be able to cooperate and collaborate with them on that. In terms of geographic expansion, we really -- there are many, many opportunities and we really are working to actually deploy additional sales resources in a number of different places. And again, I mean, even in -- markets like Western Europe and the United States are relatively small for us. And as our portfolio of services continues to grow, we see big opportunities there. But I would say the biggest opportunities that we really get most excited about are, as you touched on, like Latin America, South Asia and the Middle East and North Africa, Eastern Europe. Actually, there are some amazing pockets in Southeast Asia, where just again, the activity is extraordinary in markets like Vietnam and Indonesia, the Philippines and other markets like that. So we really are seeing opportunities in a lot of different places. And I think you can kind of almost follow it. If you look around the world where you now are reading stories about capital markets activity and venture investments and things like that, I mean, all of those become kind of self-fulfilling and self-reinforcing as ecosystems of kind of digital entrepreneurship are growing around the world. And so, we end up really being both a contributor to that and a beneficiary of that. And so those are places that are seeing really the biggest transformation and the greatest kind of leapfrogging that we're seeing around the world. And as a result, again, we think there's kind of opportunities for faster growth and also, in a number of cases, opportunity to generate a higher take rate than what we would see in some of the bigger markets that are out there.

Robert Napoli

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. Thanks, Bob.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Napoli. The next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Please proceed.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed.

Hey, good evening and thank you for taking my questions. Congratulations on the good quarter. I guess my first question is with regards to the transaction cost improvement. Is that sustainable going forward? I mean certainly benefits this year but what should we expect going forward?

Michael Levine

Management

Yes. I think when you look at revenues minus transaction costs and look at that level of profitability which is important to us and it's something that's growing very nicely, you can see that when you normalize throughout the quarter, there's actually been a lot of consistency where we've been. So as we continue to grow, I think that the fundamentals are pretty sound at this point.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed.

Okay. But the underlying factors that led to that, is that more of a year-over-year comp issue because of what was going on last year, things like that? So that -- or should there be a path forward to continue?

Michael Levine

Management

Yes, yes, yes. Sorry, I can clarify. So yes, on a year-over-year basis, I mean, again, we continue to leverage our scale as one significant part of how we manage our transaction costs. But we've also -- as part of the deal that we announced with Mastercard, we're able to structure our card costs on an ongoing basis, where we've now improved our economics. So that's an ongoing benefit. We continue to mention before to manage our risk management as well. We've done a good job of that this year. So all those should be, for the most part, at a relative steady state.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed.

Got it. And then, the other question I had; when I look at regional rev growth, right -- I mean, obviously, U.S., really solid results, other countries. And Greater China is the one that had the decel. Is there a way to kind of break that out with regards to how much is just what's going on inside China versus maybe supply chain prices versus other factors? And I guess the more important question is, given you guys are more focused on exporters and exporting more stuff is the layout of a problem like this, what does that kind of -- how does that inform your decision on making investments in the region to get that faster book?

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. Great question and an important question. So actually, there really hasn't been any impact that we've seen related to some of the changes domestically within China. As you highlight, we're focused on exports. We work with Chinese businesses to help them grow around the world and that continues to be actually an area of great focus there. I think what you're seeing there is more -- some of the less diversity in the nature of the businesses there than what we have in a lot of other parts of the world. So when there are supply chain issues, that's a part of the world that they actually are going to hit quite hard. When there's a slowdown in the growth of e-commerce goods purchases or in some context, even year-over-year decline in certain contexts, again, that's a part of the world that's going to actually get hit a bit harder. Where in other parts of the world for us, you'll see more of a mix of services and goods and you'll see quite a variety -- a greater variety of different types of activity. So in general, we actually continue to see exciting opportunities. We continue to see really just incredible and dynamic activity there with a lot of focus on exports and a lot of encouragement as it relates to that coming from the government there and it's something that we think actually -- is positioned in general to do well. But again, that's something that will snap back more as digital commerce actually comes back. So we are investing faster in other parts around the world. And -- but it's certainly still a part of the world that we're actually upbeat and optimistic about.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed.

Understood. Thank you for that note. Appreciate it.

Scott Galit

Management

Yes. Great questions. Thanks, Ashwin.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Shirvaikar. There are no additional questions registered. [Operator Instructions] There are no additional questions waiting at this time, so I will pass the conference over to Mr. Galit for closing remarks.

Scott Galit

Management

Great, thanks. I'll keep it brief. I mean really thank you, everybody, for your time and for all the great questions. Again, really happy to have the chance to talk with you. We think we really have had a really strong quarter. We really think it highlights so many of the powerful trends and themes happening with digitalization around the world but maybe more importantly, around how our growth strategy is really positioning us to have a durable and resilient business model well positioned for growth in the future. So, we look forward to talking more in more detail. If you have any questions, obviously, please don't hesitate to reach out to our IR team and let us know how we can help. And thank you again.

Operator

Operator

That concludes the Payoneer's Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.